Help me define the term hipster
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Yuppie (short for "young urban professional" or "young upwardly-mobile professional") is a term that refers to a member of the upper middle class in their twenties or thirties. It first came into use in the early-1980s and largely faded from American popular culture in the late-1980s, due to the 1987 stock market crash and the early 1990s recession.likalaruku said:
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They were basically people who were unaffected by the recession in the 80s, they apparently lived in the most expensive parts of town. I had to research them for a play.
OT: From what I gather, Hipster's are people who make their unknown taste in music very well known and believe it's cooler to be underground.
They wear vintage clothes, and those large, thick framed glasses, despite the fact they do not need them.
I think if you've ever uttered the words, or something along the lines of:
"I liked/wore that shirt/band/artist/product before it was famous! Everyone is copying me."
"Whatever, you probably haven't heard of the bands I like."
"This band/artist/celebrity has totally sold out."
I can assume you have some Hipster tendencies.
I'm probably missing a bit there, but I prefer not talking to them.
The deffinitions of hipster seem to get broader and broader every fucking day, it's ridiculous. When people talk or accuse people of being hipsters oten the only tinkg they're reffering to is their appearence. Wearing hoodies makes you a hipster... thick rimmed glasses makes you a hipster... Converse shoes make you a hipster. Right, so by that logic my fucking dad is a hipster? And since when did it become so terrible to like indie or less well known music than chart music? I'm sorry I'd rather listen to Four Tet than rush off to buy Kesha's album.
When people talk about smug, affluent, upper middle class, ironic, judgemental hipster stereotypes, mow many of you have actually encountered any of those types of people? I haven't seen a social clique recieve this much hate and vitriol since emos.
Fact is, and I bet people will hate me for this, people hate hipsters because it's cool. Of course it fucking is. All publications hate hipsters periodically. Is there any basis for a level of hatred and distaste on this level? No. The afformentioned extreme stereotype probably doesn't even exist.
These days it just seems to be an irrational hatred of anyone young, fashionably concious, and remotely politically minded. I wont even mention indie music because anyone who has any taste in music listens to lesser known or indie artists.
When people talk about smug, affluent, upper middle class, ironic, judgemental hipster stereotypes, mow many of you have actually encountered any of those types of people? I haven't seen a social clique recieve this much hate and vitriol since emos.
Fact is, and I bet people will hate me for this, people hate hipsters because it's cool. Of course it fucking is. All publications hate hipsters periodically. Is there any basis for a level of hatred and distaste on this level? No. The afformentioned extreme stereotype probably doesn't even exist.
These days it just seems to be an irrational hatred of anyone young, fashionably concious, and remotely politically minded. I wont even mention indie music because anyone who has any taste in music listens to lesser known or indie artists.
That last one is basically what I came to contribute. I'm usually pretty live-and-let-live, but people wearing snow hats in the summer is so obviously stupid that I can't help but assume that they're an arse before anything has been said/witnessed that might confirm it.Swollen Goat said:Ah, you've never seen hipster kitty?
And here was me thinking it was just a different cut in jeans...
As this awesome video implied though, I just always thought they were called "dickheads".InterAirplay said:The TLR version would be this. Seriously, watch this shit, it's fucking hillarious.
Narcisistic people that wear scarfs even in the heat of summer and spend their afternoon in Starbucks working on their debut novel while listening to old obscure music on their walkman.
I'm with you. I think.fullbleed said:
I've had a hard time grasping the whole hipster definition as well. I have met people who have one or two "hipster qualities" (I mean, there's a lot of people out there who listen to indie music, and everybody can be a bit smug about something from time to time right?), but I can't honestly say I've ever met the whole package (including the "being a douche" part). I'm sure there are a couple of them out there, maybe they are less frequent over here where I live, but it sounds more like something the Internet has blown out of proportion.
It feels mostly like that whole emo storm a year or two back.
Well the neighborhood next to mine, is basically hipster central USA, so I pretty much have nothing but bad things to say about them. Regarding the hipster dress code, I think the only rule, is to wake up and dress yourself blind folded, after a night of binge drinking and impulse shopping, thats the only way I can describe how they dress. I think the term to describe their personalities was first heard by me on Zero Punctuation. They are "twatty cakes".
These articles are actually quite concise, although I think the last depiction gives them too much credit. They aren't evil geniuses.
http://newyork.timeout.com/things-to-do/this-week-in-new-york/8355/why-the-hipster-must-die
http://laist.com/2008/02/20/why_does_everyo.php
http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html
http://newyork.timeout.com/things-to-do/this-week-in-new-york/8355/why-the-hipster-must-die
http://laist.com/2008/02/20/why_does_everyo.php
http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html
Ding ding ding, we have a winner!fullbleed said:
I find it funny that one of the attributes always associated with hipsters is the pretentious elitist attitude.. and then the ones complaining about "them" generally come off as more elitist and pretentious than even the most textbook hipster.
Put simply, hipster is the new emo. It's a less than scientific group that people get lumped into because someone else wants to make themselves feel better by association and comparison. (Which, when you think about it, is almost the definition of "hipster" that the "anti-hipster" crowd themselves use)
There are a couple at my University... They wear vintage clothing, strange colours, have weird hair, and big sunglasses/glasses. Some wear glasses without lenses. Like, they'll wear things just to look "unique".
I'm wondering if it's possible for anyone that isn't Caucasian to be a hipster? At my University, there is a very large Chinese population. Many of the ones that come over to study fit the description of hipster exactly. But they are usually just referred to as "mainlanders". Or what about people that just dress as hipsters but otherwise listen to pop music like everyone else? I've seen a couple of people like that...
I think as long as you're trying to be different because you want to be different and not because you like it, you're being a hipster.
I'm wondering if it's possible for anyone that isn't Caucasian to be a hipster? At my University, there is a very large Chinese population. Many of the ones that come over to study fit the description of hipster exactly. But they are usually just referred to as "mainlanders". Or what about people that just dress as hipsters but otherwise listen to pop music like everyone else? I've seen a couple of people like that...
I think as long as you're trying to be different because you want to be different and not because you like it, you're being a hipster.
I'm one of the rare(READ: nigh-nonexistant) socially Conservative... sigh... hipsters. Everyone tells me I look and act the part and I can't prove them wrong, but I guess as they say saying you aren't one is the first step towards being one. But whatever. I guess the best way to define "the demographic" is taking an ironic sense of humor too far(growing facial hair BECAUSE you think it'll look stupid, lenseless specs, scarves in June), being "obsessed" with nonconformity, indie music, "a bit of pretentiousness" if what I hear is true(I don't believe this about myself but I didn't see the vegan spinach in my teeth this morning either), USUALLY socialist/progressive leanings(but not me, that's too conformist), etc. There's of course the belief that we're all living off of trust funds, but I call bull. The one about us being well-educated but hopeless artists is somewhhat true though(sadly). So yeah, that's about all I can dredge up.
"hipster" is a culturally revelant things. Different cultures would have their own stereotypes that we might consider "hipster", they might actually be of a higher social rank then we put hipsters, and that culture might have their own social rank that we attach to hipsters for a different stereotype we might think of as better.Sturmdolch said:
I don't think race itself has an impact, it's more "culture", so if there's a subculture of chinese people in your town, they might have their own social castes. But a single chinese person who's raised in a largely white america culture wouldn't have any problem being a hipster.
