Help me question yourselves

[Vanguard_Ex]

Maybe it's fatigue, but I just thought of this topic and I'll be damned if I'm not going to add another thread to the current 200 on the go.

What I'm looking for here is for a sharing of questions. About society, about religion, about culture, whatever you please. I want this thread to be potentially more than something you give an answer to and nothing more is required; I want to to be dependant on the sharing of knowledge and/or discussion and debate between Escapists. No flaming of subjects. I don't want people asking 'what the fucking point is' in religion, but rather asking why a member of our community who is religious is drawn to it. I guess we could go for some philosophising too.
This is rather vague, I know, we'll see what you guys do with it.

My question: being 17 years old, I've been told it isn't possible for me to know love, despite the fact I know that I love my girlfriend. Why though? Do I need to go through several women before knowing love? Do I need to reach a certain age to officially know love? What?

Over to you.

 

[S.R.S.]

I think the "love" argument came from never really realising what you have until it's gone. Loved and Lost, I guess.

Why is everything in it's infancy cute?

 

[Daystar Clarion]

With the whole love thing, I don't think you can define love, I've been with my girlfriend for 7 years (since I was 15). I imagine quite a few people would not think we would get this far. But it's easy. It's really easy, whoever said relationships were hard was misinformed. Relationships shouldn't be hard, me and my fiance just 'clicked', we don't have a tonne of stuff in common and we like to debate with each other over differing opinions. It's the perfect coupling because I fucking hate those couples who just agree with each for the sake of keeping the peace.
We're at that stage now where we barely have to talk to each other all day, we just enjoy the presence of the other one, almost like we're a piece of each other.

Now, to kill this soppy philosophy crap. RELEASE THE KRAKEN!

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

I think the "love" argument came from never really realising what you have until it's gone. Loved and Lost, I guess.

Why is everything in it's infancy cute?

Good question. I've never really understood the concept of cute in itself either. I wonder whether you could call it almost a form of pity...

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

My question: being 17 years old, I've been told it isn't possible for me to know love, despite the fact I know that I love my girlfriend. Why though? Do I need to go through several women before knowing love? Do I need to reach a certain age to officially know love? What?

I can say with almost complete certainty that you don't love your girlfriend. You just think you do.

And this is because...?

 

[silver wolf009]

My question: what is the best kind of goverment? is it one that takes the country 1st or the people 1st? one is harder on the people but the other gives them more protection.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

You know what you need to know.

Simple as that.

I look at you, I say "Pfft, that's not love."

You look at me and say, "Pfft, that's not love."

Personally, if it doesn't have a quantifiable aspect (by which I mean, there is no proven God, proven love, etc.) then it is up to every individual to make their own decisions. In the same way that someone can say you're too young to know love, well how are they old enough?

To quote many a grizzled roadside motel drifter, "You know it when you find it."

I have to say, that is a fantastic answer. Bravo, really

 

[teutonicman]

Variety is the spice of life man. For your question about love think about this; let's say you like vanilla ice cream and only eat it since it was the first you ate and you really like it. Therefore you don;t want to change. If you only stick with vanilla how do you know if you don;t like chocolate or strawberry more?

 

[S.R.S.]

I think the "love" argument came from never really realising what you have until it's gone. Loved and Lost, I guess.

Why is everything in it's infancy cute?

Good question. I've never really understood the concept of cute in itself either. I wonder whether you could call it almost a form of pity...

Pity, huh? I never thought about it like that. That boys gonna grow up to be a....

Have you seen baby crocodiles? Hard to believe they could kill you. I work at an animal sanctuary by the way. That's why I asked.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

My question: being 17 years old, I've been told it isn't possible for me to know love, despite the fact I know that I love my girlfriend. Why though? Do I need to go through several women before knowing love? Do I need to reach a certain age to officially know love? What?

I can say with almost complete certainty that you don't love your girlfriend. You just think you do.

And this is because...?

Because you can never truly know what love is.

Even if you really actually do experince "true love" for someone, you have no way of knowing it, you have no way of knowing what is real and what is not.

...touché. I was preparing myself for something akin to the 'too young' lecture.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

I think the "love" argument came from never really realising what you have until it's gone. Loved and Lost, I guess.

Why is everything in it's infancy cute?

Good question. I've never really understood the concept of cute in itself either. I wonder whether you could call it almost a form of pity...

Pity, huh? I never thought about it like that. That boys gonna grow up to be a....

Have you seen baby crocodiles? Hard to believe they could kill you. I work at an animal sanctuary by the way. That's why I asked.

Just a little possibility I thought of one day
And ahh, I see. That must be quite an interesting career

 

[Lazarus Long]

Love is a chemical reaction for the purpose of driving you to make babies. Which are not always cute. As Unca Harlan put it: "Love ain't nothing but sex misspelled." I think the best you can find is a person that you can get along with for a majority of your lifetime. The kind of love they talk about in romance novels is only found within their pages.

Or maybe I'm just a bitter, misanthropic bastard, and everybody else is skipping through soft-focus fields in slow motion.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Love is a chemical reaction for the purpose of driving you to make babies. Which are not always cute. As Unca Harlan put it: "Love ain't nothing but sex misspelled." I think the best you can find is a person that you can get along with for a majority of your lifetime. The kind of love they talk about in romance novels is only found within their pages.

Or maybe I'm just a bitter, misanthropic bastard, and everybody else is skipping through soft-focus fields in slow motion.

An interesting view.
Or, maybe, you actually have the stark truth scope of view, which is a little too real for most people so they carry on skipping in slow motion with their fingers in their ears going 'LALALALALALA'. Either way.

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

I don't think anyone is saying that you're DEFINITELY not in love, just that it's not LIKELY. Speaking from experience, most people think they're in love a few times before they REALLY experience it. So no one is saying it's not possible, people are just saying that it's pretty unlikely.

Love is a chemical reaction for the purpose of driving you to make babies. Which are not always cute. As Unca Harlan put it: "Love ain't nothing but sex misspelled." I think the best you can find is a person that you can get along with for a majority of your lifetime. The kind of love they talk about in romance novels is only found within their pages.

Or maybe I'm just a bitter, misanthropic bastard, and everybody else is skipping through soft-focus fields in slow motion.

Everything you experience is a (electro)chemical reaction. Vision is a chemical reaction, but it's still pretty damn neat. Something being a chemical reaction doesn't mean that it isn't meaningful or desirable. As for the "love is about making babies", I've seen quite a few old, infertile, and gay couples who are very much in love.

As for romantic love, the fact that you haven't experienced it doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. Sure there's MORE to being with someone than skipping through fields of flowers (people get sick, people fight, shit happens), but all it takes to skip through fields of flowers with someone is to find a field of flowers and start skipping. If you want romance, you make it. The problem is people expecting it to somehow happen on its own.

My question: what is the best kind of goverment? is it one that takes the country 1st or the people 1st? one is harder on the people but the other gives them more protection.

I don't even really know what to make of this. What is a "country" if not the people? The very notion of a government thinking of the "country first" is ludicrous. This is EXACTLY the wrong kind of thinking and it's precisely the cause of a lot of the world's problems. Thinking of a country independent of its people is at the root of idiotic nationalism and jingoistic policy decisions.

 

[Visulth]

If babies weren't cute, by god, they'd be thoroughly screwed. Human babies, especially. Think about it, when a human baby is born it's basically a giant brain in an incubator. It can do all of jack and shit by itself. It really needs parents to help it survive.

On the other hand, baby dolphins and sharks come out swimming. Baby sea turtles have to freaking unbury themselves and race to the water in possibly one of the most depressing all-you-can-eat-buffets on the planet.

Human babies? They rock back and forth, cry, and crap their pants. Furthermore, when they're in their mother's tummy, they don't just steal nutrients from her blood, they steal the calcium from her bones. The mother actually loses bone density because the goddamn parasite inside steals it.

And, babies are assholes. After a few months they already exhibit racism (if they're white, they'll stare at white people longer, totally ignoring people of different races), lying, manipulation, and so forth.

Man, I hate babies.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

I don't think anyone is saying that you're DEFINITELY not in love, just that it's not LIKELY. Speaking from experience, most people think they're in love a few times before they REALLY experience it. So no one is saying it's not possible, people are just saying that it's pretty unlikely.

Oh no, people have told me it's not possible. Apparently 'You're. 17.' is a viable reason.

 

[ultrachicken]

I think the "love" argument came from never really realising what you have until it's gone. Loved and Lost, I guess.

Why is everything in it's infancy cute?

It's programming in the human brain to make the parents more attached to their young, therefore advancing the survival of the species.

I can guarantee you that a baby fly is not cute.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

If babies weren't cute, by god, they'd be thoroughly screwed. Human babies, especially. Think about, when a human baby is born it's basically a giant brain in an incubator. It can do all of jack and shit by itself. It really needs parents to help it survive.

On the other hand, baby dolphins and sharks come out swimming. Baby sea turtles have to freaking unbury themselves and race to the water in possibly one of the most depressing all-you-can-eat-buffets on the planet.

Human babies? They rock back and forth, cry, and crap their pants. Furthermore, when they're in their mother's tummy, they don't just steal nutrients from her blood, they steal the calcium from her bones. The mother actually loses bone density because the goddamn parasite inside steals it.

And, babies are assholes. After a few months they already exhibit racism (if they're white, they'll stare at white people longer, totally ignoring people of different races), lying, manipulation, and so forth.

Man, I hate babies.

Would I be right in assuming you're a Cracked reader?

 

[Visulth]

Would I be right in assuming you're a Cracked reader?

Yep. I learned the racism bit from cracked. The bone-density thing I learned from my biology classes. I have a coworker who shares my hatred of babies, and she tells me all these horrible things of what doctors have to do to a mother if the baby isn't going to come out right (i.e. too big, strangely shaped skull, etc).

THINGS NO MAN SHOULD KNOW.

Ugh, freakin' babies.

 

[DkLnBr]

I think the "love" argument came from never really realising what you have until it's gone. Loved and Lost, I guess.

Why is everything in it's infancy cute?

Spoiler: not this

Because we are "programmed" see babies as cute so we don't eat them.

but we do eat Veal and Lamb

As for my question? I have writers block, or i guess it would be called question block. So when I think of one I'll post it