Help me with bootcamp for mac.

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Random Fella

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I want to play various games that are only for windows on my mac... To do this I apparently need bootcamp.
The only problem is I don't have bootcamp and my disc reader is broken so I can't re-install learpord onto my computer.
Does anyone know if I can download the bootcamp assistant from anywhere and how I can get it working on my computer? Or if it's not possible.
My computer is a Macbook
Processor 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory 1 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
Version 10.5.8
 

Kabutos

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I found a download link for Bootcamp 1.3b [http://www.soft32.com/Download/Free/Apple_Boot_Camp/4-200398-1.html], but what games are you wanting to play exactly? I doubt your specs would handle modern games very well.
 

ultrachicken

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It isn't really worth it. The most advanced game my bootcamped macbook can run is Morrowind. And the framerate is undesirable.
 

Erana

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ultrachicken said:
It isn't really worth it. The most advanced game my bootcamped macbook can run is Morrowind. And the framerate is undesirable.
Really? What have you done to your Macbook?
I don't have too many real recent games, but a Leopard macbook can handle any Valve game flawlessly. Except L4D2, but that's because I messed up my registry keys, and am too lazy to configure 'em for that game with this computer. (And prolly more recent games, too, but I just don't have the PC version of more demanding programs. >.>)

I find people constantly underestimating Macs; it makes me a sad panda.

That being said, I don't run Bootcamp, I use Wine. So I'm running Windows stuff while using the Mac OS. Have you ever considered it, OP?
Its free.
 

Kabutos

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Well, it's not so much as underestimating Macs as it is underestimating these:

Processor 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory 1 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
Version 10.5.8
I doubt he'll be able to run much other than Source or old games.
 

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Random Fella said:
How do you set up wine? Is it as effective as I hear bootcamp is?

wine is something entirely different than bootcamp.

Bootcamp is just an easy way to create a windows partition, so you need quite a bit of harddrive space and a copy of windows.

Wine is basically an emulator, it doesn't work for every game out there, but it lets you play windows games on a mac os.

edit: also, with 1gb of ram it's propably a bad idea to try to install vista or windows 7 on your macbook. I'd recommend trying wine.
 

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Random Fella said:
my disc reader is broken so I can't re-install learpord onto my computer.
I don't know if you can do this for Mac as I'm far from an expert on Apple products, though if Learpord isn't available for download and a CD is definitely needed, you could download learpord as a .nrg or .iso image file and mount it with a problem such as Alcohol 102%, which basically acts as a CD drive and the image file acting as a CD.

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Random Fella said:
Processor 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory 1 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
How much did your Macbook cost you, as they are nototriously expensive and those specs aren't great, especially not for gaming. You could play some of the good old stuff like Half Life and Age of Empires 2, but you couldn't really play any titles from the past 3/4 years even at lowest settings.
 

Erana

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Moriarty said:
Random Fella said:
How do you set up wine? Is it as effective as I hear bootcamp is?

wine is something entirely different than bootcamp.

Bootcamp is just an easy way to create a windows partition, so you need quite a bit of harddrive space and a copy of windows.

Wine is basically an emulator, it doesn't work for every game out there, but it lets you play windows games on a mac os.
I have to do the mandatory thing Wine users have to do and point out that the name actually means "Wine Is Not an Emulator."
Lord knows what they were thinking when they came up with that name.
Probably, "Mmmm, Booze."

Wine what the deciples of OpenSourcia use to run Windows programs on Linux and other, non-corperate operating systems. There's a Mac version, and it offers a few advantages and disadvantages over Bootcamp:

Advantages:
Like Moriarty said, it does function like an emulator would. It works right on your OSX desktop, without any rebooting or overcomplicated finagling. I could run say, Morrowind, right now, while having iPhoto 'n stuff up without issue.

Because its not a seperate partition or operating system, your PC programs can get straight access to all the files on your Mac. I hear trying to open a file on a different OS partition can be bothersome.

It saves a lot of space, not having all the files required for a Windows OS.

You aren't vulnerable to PC viruses 'n nasties from your PC partition affecting your Mac stuff.

Performance can actually be better through Wine than on a PC partition with some programs.

Its free, versus Bootcamp requiring you to buy a license for a Windows OS.

Disadvantages:
Wine is not Windows. I don't know how else to say this, really. Wine isn't always entirely compatible with programs. You can find out which programs work by searching http://www.winehq.org/ .

Using Wine on a Mac means using the Terminal. This means getting to know your way around a text-based interface. For the most part, the internet has provided enough instructions about doing what you want to do so that you never have to learn much about the terminal beyond "cd" "rm" and "wine," but its strangely satisfying to type in a bunch of technobabble and get results. (for me, at least.)
Two words of advice on the terminal:
DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE TYPE INTO THE TERMINAL "rm -rf" or "rm -rf *" These are commands to delete everything. "rm" is the delete command. If anyone on the internet tells you to use the "rm" command without you wanting to delete something, they might be a malicious troll.
Also, though not talked about in many Wine instructions, the "ls" command is extremely useful. It tells you your current location and the contents of said directory.
Not to be confused with the Escapist user LS.

Things may not always behave as planned. You may generally get great performance and out-of-the-box functionality, but be prepared for... quirks. For example, Morrowind occasionally has a few audio hiccups, and in Neverwinter Nights, whenever I try to choose a tone other than default in the character creation, I wind up with a metallic look.
So yeah, my first character was a Terminator bard.
Generally, you can just shrug off weirdness like this.

It only works for Intel-based Macs, but that's not a problem for you. Still, Wine typically wants to use defaults for a bit stronger of a Macbook, so you may want to look into changing the default of you virtual memory 'n such. Only if it gives you problems, though; Wine's pretty good at guessing.

Can't really think of much else to say about Wine, for better or worse. This nice guide [http://davidbaumgold.com/tutorials/wine-mac/] will show you how to install Wine, step-by-step. If you're interested.As I mentioned before, WineHq will tell you what you need to know about running individual programs with it; if there are specific games you want to play, you should look it up before you invest the time to install Wine if you're undecided.

And by the way, if I were to say, play Neverwinter Nights right now, I would enter into the Terminal (found in the applications):

cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
cd NWN
wine NWN.exe

So yeah, once you get it all installed and figure out the specifics for the programs you want to use, its as simple as a few keystrokes. You do have to invest time in it, but in some ways, it can be practical.

Or you can be a gaming nutcase like me and like PC gaming while having an inexplicable loathing of Windows OSs.

Kabutos said:
Well, it's not so much as underestimating Macs as it is underestimating these:

Processor 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory 1 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
Version 10.5.8
I doubt he'll be able to run much other than Source or old games.
Hrm... Why is his Macbook so puny? Mine's a bit more powerful than that.
 

Kabutos

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Erana said:
Hrm... Why is his Macbook so puny? Mine's a bit more powerful than that.
It's probably just an older model.

Also,

Erana said:
Or you can be a gaming nutcase like me and like PC gaming while having an inexplicable loathing of Windows OSs.
why?
 

Erana

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Kabutos said:
Erana said:
Hrm... Why is his Macbook so puny? Mine's a bit more powerful than that.
It's probably just an older model.

Also,

Erana said:
Or you can be a gaming nutcase like me and like PC gaming while having an inexplicable loathing of Windows OSs.
why?
I'm not saying he should choose it, its that he might have gone the Mac route because he doesn't like Windows OSs.
I dunno why I don't like windows, but I got a Macbook after one PC after another failing on me for one reason or another. After having used it for a year or so, I've had plenty of things make me want to have the greater compatibility Windows offers. Except, every time I think about it, I literally feel my stomach churn. Computers are too big a part of my life these days for me to invest in something that I find physically unpleasant.
I'm prolly going to continue with Macbooks, and possibly build myself a computer for running Linux if I want more horsepower.