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Mechanical Cat Fish

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WrongSprite said:
Mechanical Cat Fish said:
I don't have any specifics here, nor do I need any, I think. Don't look for help on an online forum, don't look for it amongst your friends; if you even thought about taking meds which I'm assuming weren't prescribed for you then you should probably seek help from a therapist or some sort of counsellor. If you don't want to, or feel you can't seek real help I would say that you need to give yourself a couple of days to think things over and get everything that you can straight in your head so you can recover with old fashioned father time. And on top of all this I'd say if the depression you're talking about is, or turns out to be upon medical examination, clinical depression I would once again recommend therapy along with whatever else your doctor or GP advises.
People usually use depression in the wrong context, thinking it's extreme sadness, when it is in fact a hormone imbalance, so clinical is unlikely.
I think the point of this thread is to help this guy not argue over semantics, but since we're here the imbalance which is clinical depression is most likely named after the state of being depressed since that is one of its major symptoms, not the other way around, so it is technically a correct use of the word because he didn't say that he is suffering from depression, he said he's depressed.
 

Lullabye

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ThrobbingEgo said:
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but take a look at it objectivly would you? geez.*sigh*
I'm not a relativist. It's just, when someone's upset, I'd think you'd want them to resolve their problems before you make light of them, wholesale. Take what I say with a grain of salt though. Though I have a Freud avatar, it's just meant as ironic contrast to my user name. I'm not an expert on anything. :p
i understand. I did try to help before i started to judge. I wrote a small rant, its on the first page. I dont like people who come into these help threads and only say how stupid the person was because of whatever, and don't try to help at all.
 

ThrobbingEgo

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Lullabye said:
the reason your better at story and such is because your probably more right brained(i think thats right). right brained indiviuals are better at art and literature and abstract thinking than left brained individuals who are more logical. Im the same way.
Eh, I always thought that was an over simplification or pseudo-science, like phrenology. But I'm not the kind of person who neatly falls into categories.

(Note, I'm not an expert: I only have casual knowledge of anything.)
Lullabye said:
i understand. I did try to help before i started to judge. I wrote a small rant, its on the first page. I dont like people who come into these help threads and only say how stupid the person was because of whatever, and don't try to help at all.
I missed it, and reacted kneejerkilly. I apologize.
 

ThrobbingEgo

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i know. but i don't like people like him. I mean, if i needed to take placeebos i could just as easily take yoga. But i understand some people need to be tricked because they can't control their own....uh....urges?
But are they being tricked because they can't control their urges or are they being tricked so they can? I don't know your father's condition, but if your doctor's prescribing placebo's there's probably a good reason that doesn't involve your dad being a total prick.

Even if he is.

No need to stigmatize a useful treatment.
 

NotAPie

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I'm glad that most of you helped me out, while the others were baisicly kinda...being dicks, Anyway, In order to move on, I have to leave her for good right?
If so, then god damn its going to be hard.
If not, then I dont need to worry.
 

ThrobbingEgo

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elitepie931 said:
I'm glad that most of you helped me out, while the others were baisicly kinda...being dicks, Anyway, In order to move on, I have to leave her for good right?
Moving on is a good idea. She broke up with you, and if she's made it clear she doesn't want you back, you're going to have to respect that. She's a person with wants and needs of her own, after all.

Take you time, though. I wouldn't recommend jumping into another relationship right away. You don't want to bring "baggage," issues, or guilt from your previous relationship into a new one.
 

NotAPie

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ThrobbingEgo said:
elitepie931 said:
I'm glad that most of you helped me out, while the others were baisicly kinda...being dicks, Anyway, In order to move on, I have to leave her for good right?
Moving on is a good idea. She broke up with you, and if she's made it clear she doesn't want you back, you're going to have to respect that. She's a person with wants and needs of her own, after all.

Take you time, though. I wouldn't recommend jumping into another relationship right away. You don't want to bring "baggage," issues, or guilt from your previous relationship into a new one.
I understand then, but she just keeps asking me to be her friend, so to get better, I have to say no x.x I'm starting to feel a little better.
 

ThrobbingEgo

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elitepie931 said:
I understand then, but she just keeps asking me to be her friend, so to get better, I have to say no x.x I'm starting to feel a little better.
Ouch, that hits pretty close to home. I think that's what my ex had to do. I still feel pretty bad about it - we were good friends before we started dating. I didn't dump her because I hated her - our relationship together just wasn't as good as it seemed. We were going to stay in touch - but she changed her mind about that pretty quickly. I don't know if we'll ever be friends again.

Magic 8-Ball says "signs point to no."

That said, do what you have to do for as long as you have to do it. If being near her is like picking at an open wound, then stop picking and let yourself heal.
 

NotAPie

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ThrobbingEgo said:
elitepie931 said:
I understand then, but she just keeps asking me to be her friend, so to get better, I have to say no x.x I'm starting to feel a little better.
Ouch, that hits pretty close to home. I think that's what my ex had to do. I still feel pretty bad about it - we were good friends before we started dating. I didn't dump her because I hated her - our relationship together just wasn't as good as it seemed. We were going to stay in touch - but she changed her mind about that pretty quickly. I don't know if we'll ever be friends again.

Magic 8-Ball says "signs point to no."

That said, do what you have to do for as long as you have to do it. If being near her is like picking at an open wound, then stop picking and let yourself heal.
I understand.
Thanks for the advice.
Meh I'm going to go have a rest.
 

high_castle

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Ah, the wonderful teenage years when everything is the end of the world and rule of drama reigns supreme. Take comfort in the fact that the first relationship and breakup is also the hardest. Also try to remember that in a few months time (let alone years), this will all feel stale and rather trite.

Now, you said you've been seeing this girl since you were eleven. That's awfully young, my friend. Some people mature faster...but not that fast. And when you latch onto someone that young, it can be easy to grow dependent and lose your sense of self. I highly recommend you take some time for yourself. No one appreciates being single anymore, but really is a gift. Take time to appreciate yourself, your own company and your own abilities and interests. Not only will you be able to find happiness when you're in you're on your own, you're also be a healthier person for it, better able to be in a relationship when that time comes again.

Did you say you have a therapist? If so, he's the person you should be calling since he knows your history and personality. Us internet types can only offer our own experiences and none of us are health professionals (that I know of, could be wrong).

I'm not saying what you're feeling right now isn't real, it likely is. But if you're feelings are so intense it's not healthy. You're young, so a flair for the dramatic goes hand in hand with age, but if you're seriously contemplating suicide you should pick up the phone and call your therapist or your mother or a teacher you like. Any responsible adult you trust.