Help stop internet censorship!

[Tufty94]

On 11/16, Congress holds hearings on the first American Internet censorship system.
This bill can pass. If it does the Internet and free speech will never be the same.
Join all of us on the 16th to stop this bill.

http://americancensorship.org/

If this law passes, sites like Tumblr and Facebook could be shut down for letting users post freely. Join the protest to stop it.

 

[lRookiel]

Oh would the government just fuck off already!

That is all!

 

[Zeema]

Im not sure i understand 'Free Speech'. isn't it like Talk about what you want and it will be fine.

but then when someone says something different from the norm its demonised and not just for the one person. The whole group of that community.

But free speech is the ability to say that. yet people say 'you can't say that'.

but naw if this law came to pass or bill whatever came to pass this is what will happen.

Rioting from Teenagers and adults, why?

someone sent me the other day.


people some people just want to tell other people that they just ate a Sandwich

 

[Ruwrak]

Internet is public domain innit?

Who -owns- the net anyway?
I sincerly doubt this passes. You know. Right of free speech and all that.
Would be hypocrit to censor things like Facebook and suches.

Then again, I am not in the US of A and most american websites are not viewable from 'outside'.
So meh at that. Keep building walls.

 

[Slaanesh]

I seen a few sites having their logo's censored in protest of this bullshit.

Also, is this why my disgusting, vile, filthy fetishes disappeared off various porn sites? DAMN YOU CONGRESS!

 

[diebane]

Facebook being shut down? Sign my ass up!






Ohhh...well...

In all seriousness, I'm not from the USA plus I'm all out of fucks to give. Sorry?

 

[Tufty94]

Facebook being shut down? Sign my ass up!






Ohhh...well...

In all seriousness, I'm not from the USA plus I'm all out of fucks to give. Sorry?

Yeh, but I'm guessing all of the sites you visit are from America. I could post 100 links to torrents and get this site shut down. Maybe you should consider that before attempting to be a fucking smart arse.

 

[Catalyst6]

Internet is public domain innit?

Who -owns- the net anyway?
I sincerly doubt this passes. You know. Right of free speech and all that.
Would be hypocrit to censor things like Facebook and suches.

Then again, I am not in the US of A and most american websites are not viewable from 'outside'.
So meh at that. Keep building walls.

The problem is less of who owns the web and more who hosts it. Sites are on physical servers, physical servers need buildings and people to maintain them, which need businesses, which Congress are more than happy to kill off if it means that they can get what they want.

In a specific case, you could have the company that provides the hosting for site X to just stop hosting them, delete it from their servers. In a more broad sense, they could just kill *your* hosting, cutting you off from the internet completely.

 

[Ruwrak]

Internet is public domain innit?

Who -owns- the net anyway?
I sincerly doubt this passes. You know. Right of free speech and all that.
Would be hypocrit to censor things like Facebook and suches.

Then again, I am not in the US of A and most american websites are not viewable from 'outside'.
So meh at that. Keep building walls.

The problem is less of who owns the web and more who hosts it. Sites are on physical servers, physical servers need buildings and people to maintain them, which need businesses, which Congress are more than happy to kill off if it means that they can get what they want.

In a specific case, you could have the company that provides the hosting for site X to just stop hosting them, delete it from their servers. In a more broad sense, they could just kill *your* hosting, cutting you off from the internet completely.

So basically the US of A courts are going to agree that yes, it is allowed to silence and take away the right of free speech? The thing they have been yelling that was something they just 'do' because everyone has a right to an opinion and noone should be censored for what they say? That's kinda hypocritical.

 

[Catalyst6]

Internet is public domain innit?

Who -owns- the net anyway?
I sincerly doubt this passes. You know. Right of free speech and all that.
Would be hypocrit to censor things like Facebook and suches.

Then again, I am not in the US of A and most american websites are not viewable from 'outside'.
So meh at that. Keep building walls.

The problem is less of who owns the web and more who hosts it. Sites are on physical servers, physical servers need buildings and people to maintain them, which need businesses, which Congress are more than happy to kill off if it means that they can get what they want.

In a specific case, you could have the company that provides the hosting for site X to just stop hosting them, delete it from their servers. In a more broad sense, they could just kill *your* hosting, cutting you off from the internet completely.

So basically the US of A courts are going to agree that yes, it is allowed to silence and take away the right of free speech? The thing they have been yelling that was something they just 'do' because everyone has a right to an opinion and noone should be censored for what they say? That's kinda hypocritical.

Yes. Yes it is.

Here, this video might help explain things better, it's related to the above website's organization I believe.
http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/

 

[Ruwrak]

Yes. Yes it is.

Here, this video might help explain things better, it's related to the above website's organization I believe.
http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/

Yeah I seen this before and it comes off to me as propaganda / 'overdoing it' in my point of view. But then agian, alot of things that I see from the USA is 'overdoing it'. Everything is beeing blown out of proportion. As if everything needs to be exciting and life threathening (even if it's just a grocery commercial). I've always amazed myself over this. There is not one talkshow that is 'normal'. It's always the most extreme of the extreme.

 

[Normandyfoxtrot]

If you haven't noticed everyone only particularly cares about rights and freedoms when it suites them.

 

[NotSoNimble]

But the internet SHOULD be censored.

 

[Normandyfoxtrot]

Yes. Yes it is.

Here, this video might help explain things better, it's related to the above website's organization I believe.
http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/

Yeah I seen this before and it comes off to me as propaganda / 'overdoing it' in my point of view. But then agian, alot of things that I see from the USA is 'overdoing it'. Everything is beeing blown out of proportion. As if everything needs to be exciting and life threathening (even if it's just a grocery commercial). I've always amazed myself over this. There is not one talkshow that is 'normal'. It's always the most extreme of the extreme.

We tend to as a whole rather aggressively attack what we see as problems unlike some cultures tendency to silently sweep them under a rug. You take the good with the bad.

 

[Ruwrak]

We tend to as a whole rather aggressively attack what we see as problems unlike some cultures tendency to silently sweep them under a rug. You take the good with the bad.

Ya know. The odd thing about it is... I don't see anything remotely understandable in these talkshows. It's always shouting, interrupting, agressively questioning, asking questions that have no relevance or just blatantly idiotic opinions (everyone is entitled to them, I just find it odd that someone that is representing a group can have such harsh convictions which lie on half truths)

 

[Tiger Sora]

Can this actually go through with Americans having the right to free speech. The constitution overrides everything else. So even if this passes the law in unenforceable because because of the constitution. Least from what I gather.

I could be wrong. I'm canadian and no law expert.

 

[Catalyst6]

Yes. Yes it is.

Here, this video might help explain things better, it's related to the above website's organization I believe.
http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/

Yeah I seen this before and it comes off to me as propaganda / 'overdoing it' in my point of view. But then agian, alot of things that I see from the USA is 'overdoing it'. Everything is beeing blown out of proportion. As if everything needs to be exciting and life threathening (even if it's just a grocery commercial). I've always amazed myself over this. There is not one talkshow that is 'normal'. It's always the most extreme of the extreme.

Don't get me wrong, it's totally propaganda by definition of the word. However, it does bring up some good points, and some decent hypotheticals. By my count of sites that could be affected: Google, Yahoo, (basically any search engine), YouTube, DeviantArt, Tumblr, Reddit, Imgur, Facebook, Twitter, the list goes on. Even the Escapist could slip up and be threatened if they someone puts something on the forums.

More to the point, it's not the government's job to regulate the internet. It hands over too much power to people who don't know how to control it.

Personally, I don't trust the government. Which is why I think that the biggest problem that could come out of this is the government shutting down websites that don't agree with everything they do simply because they can. They were only posting dissenting opinions, but the gov. took them down because they were pirating. Of course, the site wasn't *actually* breaking any laws, but who's going to stop them?

 

[Ruwrak]

Yes. Yes it is.

Here, this video might help explain things better, it's related to the above website's organization I believe.
http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/

Yeah I seen this before and it comes off to me as propaganda / 'overdoing it' in my point of view. But then agian, alot of things that I see from the USA is 'overdoing it'. Everything is beeing blown out of proportion. As if everything needs to be exciting and life threathening (even if it's just a grocery commercial). I've always amazed myself over this. There is not one talkshow that is 'normal'. It's always the most extreme of the extreme.

Don't get me wrong, it's totally propaganda by definition of the word. However, it does bring up some good points, and some decent hypotheticals. By my count of sites that could be affected: Google, Yahoo, (basically any search engine), YouTube, DeviantArt, Tumblr, Reddit, Imgur, Facebook, Twitter, the list goes on. Even the Escapist could slip up and be threatened if they someone puts something on the forums.



More to the point, it's not the government's job to regulate the internet. It hands over too much power to people who don't know how to control it.

Personally, I don't trust the government. Which is why I think that the biggest problem that could come out of this is the government shutting down websites that don't agree with everything they do simply because they can. They were only posting dissenting opinions, but the gov. took them down because they were pirating. Of course, the site wasn't *actually* breaking any laws, but who's going to stop them?

't is not gonna pass. It's a breakin on the freedom of speech. If the US of A really is that keen on the whole liberty aspect of life, they won't let it pass. And otherwise the European Union will say 'the fuck guys?'

oh... wait. Bwahahaha. Yeah we got zip influence there..

 

[BreakfastMan]

Oh yes, yet another bill that promises to "DESTROY THE INTERNET AS WE KNOW IT!!1!!1!". Like the many others that all cropped up over the past couple years, people freaked out over, and were shot down. Excuse me if I don't get up in arms over a bill that is very unlikely to pass. tgwtg.com keeps bugging me about this (a pop-up. every. single. damn. page.). Can we plz keep it out of here? It is really annoying me.

 

[Smagmuck_]

I believe that certain places of the Internet, such as the Deep Web and Dark Net should be shut down entirely, but places such as this, Facebook, and Twitter should be left alone. Now I wish I wrote this bill.