Surreal Estate Agent
- Mar 21, 2010
- The Wide, Brown One.
Ciaphas Cain or no sale.
You know what, I was sat there thinking, "no matter what they do, it'll be terrible, I just don't think 40K could translate to a mainstream live action show". But I think if anything could do it, it would be that.Ciaphas Cain or no sale.
As far as I see it, they either do Ciaphas Cain or deal with the fallout of presenting one of the variations of space nazis.You know what, I was sat there thinking, "no matter what they do, it'll be terrible, I just don't think 40K could translate to a mainstream live action show". But I think if anything could do it, it would be that.
Funny you should say that. Have you perhaps heard of the exploits of the All-Guardsmen party? It's many things (long included. The shortest of the linked audio series clocks in at half an hour, and totals about 7 hours across its installments), but a boring yarn is not one of them, due in no small part to its colorful cast of characters.I'd high recommend steering clear of stories about "regular" humans. If you want to waste the premise of 40k and bore the shit out of your target audience, do a Guard story or an Inquisitor.
I think SilentPony's point was not so much that human stories don't work, but more of that they might not be such a good idea for introducing 40K to the masses.Point being that "regular" human stories can work with the right framing.
Not a bad first draft thoughNot sure it's bombastic enough.
I'm gonna 3D prints a NEEDS MORE GRIMDARK stamp for future use.Not a bad first draft though
I think this is what kills me the most about this, is that as someone who also loved The Suicide Squad/Peacemaker, I would have loved to have seen Cavill's Superman written/directed by Gunn, but he's the one giving him the axe here. Oh well, at least they've released Peacemaker season 1 on blu-ray/DVD.But yes, I honestly don't care about Henry Cavill not coming back. He was good in the role but the writers for the entire DC live action universe have been uniformly terrible (with the one exception of The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker) and have ruined his performance of the character to the point where it probably wasn't worth reviving. It's better to just scrap the whole thing and start over.
And your source for this is...?The movie bombed because it was adapting part of the story that almost no one cared about, filled with character no one knew and they happen to all be orc, so not a lot of people were interested in the first place.
I did.Nobody read the manual of WC3 before starting it,
Not really. The status quo of 3 can't exist without 1 & 2 happening. It's certainly possible to jump into 3 without playing the earlier games (I'd actually reccomend that for newbies), but in terms of lore? You can't ignore the events of the First and Second War when discussing the Third. Without 1, you have no orcs on Azeroth, without 2, you have no Scourge, etc.the 1/2 story is almost completely irrelevant to the event of 3.
You kind of need to cover a lot more than that. I mean, hypothetically, if I had to start with WC3, then I'd look at how Lord of the Rings handled things. In doing so, I'd have to cover:All you need to cover is that the demon send the orc over, but that's only relevant for Grom part of the story and can be covered in movie 2 (in like a 5 min scenes) so you don't need to start with exposition for the first movie.
Five movies for five campaigns. And yes, every one of that can cover a movie. You can cut out missions 3-5 of the Horde prequel campaign easily enough (certainly that's what the original release did), but apart from that?WC3 story can be easily adapted to a trilogy, I don't know where your getting 5 movie from, but honestly there's barely enough for 3.
You're coming up against the same problems I did. It's hard to mix and match these things, from campaigns that have a beginning, middle, and end, and shift protagonists.The orc campaign doesn't have that much happening, it can be almost entirely covered in movie 2 (just save Grom/Mannaroth for the start of movie 3) along the undead campaign and starting to setup the NE. Movie 3 is Tyrande/Illidan, finishing with Archemon fight (honestly movie 3 is kinda empty, might need to save more of the orc campaign by covering more of the fluff stuff in movie 2, maybe ending with Grom killing the centaur dude).
I figured that would be the case and it was all just the media coping.So it turns out that Amazon deal GW has with Henry Cavil? ...yeah, what they meant to say was "Wouldn't it be great IF we had a tv show deal with Amazon with Henry Cavil?!"
Amazon hasn't signed any deal and nothing is in production.
And its an attempt to pressure Amazon into a contract. Same shit happened when Tom Holland's Spiderman was "at risk" of leaving the MCU. It was contract negotiation via Youtube clickbait titles.I figured that would be the case and it was all just the media coping.
"Goddamn it i wanted Cavill as Superman again, I know I'll spin a story that Cavill is making a Warhammer 40k series or movies with Amazon because Cavill is into 40k, that will give people a coping sense of hope"
I mean the timing of it is also suspect, as soon as the news came out that Cavill was not coming back as Superman in James Gunn's DC. Like hours or a day later these 40k show by Cavill articles started popping up
Aw, but watching the fanboys froth over any lore inaccuracy would've been so much fun. Three words. Female space marine. They'd lose all their shit.So, Amazon probably isn't going to be giving the already fragile 40k lore a good kicking? Nice.
Its probably for the best. All the talking heads kept saying "Oh Eisenhorn trilogy! Oh! Inquisitors!" and its like did you actually read those stories? They're boring as fuck, and have next to nothing to do with 40k. They're generic sci-fi stories. You could replace "lasgun" with "blaser", "power sword" with "lightsaber", "Chaos" with the "force" and "heretics" with the "sith" and they would be totally in-canon Star wars novels.So, Amazon probably isn't going to be giving the already fragile 40k lore a good kicking? Nice.
Oh lesbian transgender liberal female space marines in a love triangle with a black Eldar and a peace love Ork. It'd make ArchWarhammer explode and it would be amazing.Aw, but watching the fanboys froth over any lore inaccuracy would've been so much fun. Three words. Female space marine. They'd lose all their shit.
Eisenhorn literally does have a power sword which is just a hilt which creates a blade of coherent light when activated, so yeah.Its probably for the best. All the talking heads kept saying "Oh Eisenhorn trilogy! Oh! Inquisitors!" and its like did you actually read those stories? They're boring as fuck, and have next to nothing to do with 40k. They're generic sci-fi stories. You could replace "lasgun" with "blaser", "power sword" with "lightsaber", "Chaos" with the "force" and "heretics" with the "sith" and they would be totally in-canon Star wars novels.
Plus in this day and age, no way Amazon geenlights a show where the Nazis are the good guys. A story about an Inquisitor would be Schindler's List, from the Nazi's point of view.