Heroic Bungie Employee Makes Legendary Citizen's Arrest
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Damn straight. If anyone noticed, he could legally carry a concealed weapon. I wouldn't try to carry my gun without a card in my wallet and the training I've received.teebeeohh said:
...unless of course you're the guy getting robbed or about to get murdered when some guy carrying a concealed handgun, legally, notices your situation.Kargathia said:
Better yet, get your own permit and training and protect yourself. Much better plan than counting on someone else. Shooting at a range is also a fantastic stress reliever.
The story doesn't say what the situation was between the first two men. Perhaps the guy who was shot was actually being robbed? It being a parking lot of a bank and all. Without that information you can't really pass judgement on the guy who was SHOT simply because he pulled a gun. Why does it even matter? The man the Bungie employee stopped SHOT A MAN. Would you like the guy who shot you to wonder off a never be caught?orangeban said:
You have no idea what the intentions of the shooter were. He was approaching the Bungie guy with a fucking gun after shooting a man. Would you just run away, lay down and curl up into a ball? Fuck that. The Bungie guy acted purely within the confines of law and did the right thing.
Let's just bypass the minor detail that I'm living in a country where you can't get a licence to carry - concealed or otherwise - and hop straight away to the principle part.MajorDolphin said:
No. If I ever sufficiently feel threatened on a daily basis I'll start training judo again (and probably throw in jiu-jitsu this time), but carrying a gun definitely crosses the boundary between "able to defend yourself" and "able to inflict disproportionate amounts of physical harm".
Dudes should have known that It's a Trap!
[sub][sub]Pretty sure someones already done that, but fuck em I wanted too![/sub][/sub]
And Bungie saves the day! I know what headquarters I'm heading to in a zombie apocalypse... I mean, all their employees are packing heat and know how to use it!
[sub][sub]Pretty sure someones already done that, but fuck em I wanted too![/sub][/sub]
And Bungie saves the day! I know what headquarters I'm heading to in a zombie apocalypse... I mean, all their employees are packing heat and know how to use it!
Having been someone who has been in a situation where a concealed carry weapon likely saved my life I can't imagine why people feel safe 'since you can't get a gun' well I got news you can't get a gone legally, and you know who doesn't care about laws? Criminals. So at the end of the day the criminals have the guns and you don't.Kargathia said:
And before you ask it was when I was six and it was an attempted car jacking I was in the back seat and the guy decided he didn't want to steal our car once he saw the pistol my father drew.
People here don't feel safe because "you can't get a gun", they feel safer because it's relatively hard to get one, and there aren't a multitude of people legally carrying high-powered lethal weapons around.synobal said:
You definitely can get your hands on a gun here if you'd want to. Gun crime is relatively rare, but it certainly exists.
On a personal level I simply view it as way out of whack with the threat level. Call me simple-minded, but I'd rather stick to a very simple reasoning: you only ever threaten somebody with a weapon if you're ready to use it. Anything less is an irresponsible use of power.
And while you might consider yourself in lethal danger if your car is getting stolen: I don't, and I'm certainly not ready to kill somebody, merely because he's mugging me.
I sorta agree with you, but for different reasons. Not to take away from the bravery of his actions, or claim he was wrong to do so, but he was a trained seurity guard, and he was armed.orangeban said:
Is that not the sort of thing you expect trained and armed security guards to be able to do? One step down from "police catch criminal"...it's a good thing, certainly, but hardly "legendary".
So you think it's less of a gamble that a criminal won't blow your brains out or give you a columbian necktie, than to carry a weapon and if needed use it? Also you'll find that most gun crime doesn't happen with people who can legally carry.Kargathia said:
Also my father was certainly ready to use it but you can't shoot a man in a back when he goes to run away nor do you simply draw and fire in such a situation. Criminals don't like guns and you'll find most of them like gun control laws.
Exactly, like I said, the fact that the gunman already shot someone makes this a courageous and heroic gesture, whereas it would just be reckless endangerment if the gunman was merely waving the thing around and making demands.LorienvArden said:
90% correct on the first part: I'd rather take a gamble on that than permanently carry a gun.synobal said:
Correlation between gun ownership and gun crime is not exactly that clear-cut. I'll just throw up a few random examples.
Great Britain currently has one of the lowest firearm homicide rates around the world, and some of the strictest regulations concerning gun ownership.
In Switzerland gun ownership is extremely high, as all army recruits (in a land where everyone goes through basic military training at 18) take their rifle home. Gun crime still is relatively low.
In the US you also can find examples of high gun ownership and low crime, but also of low ownership, and low crime. Or high rates of ownership, and high rates of crime. And pretty much every shade in between.
And as to your specific argument as to whether people who legally carry are more or less likely to commit crimes: it's a bit of a wild guess as best, as per definition you can only guess the amount of people who carry illegally.
