#HetrosexualPrideDay

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Shadowstar38

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I've always felt one should take pride in their accomplishments done under their own power and not an inherent trait pulled from the genetic lottery.

However, I live in the bible belt. So the pride parades here feel more like a loud, flamboyant protest against the conservative christians.
 

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DudeistBelieve said:
Fuck, the 4th of July is next week. My own countries national holiday. I'll be working. It's just a monday. Not like any of this shit matters. The only holidays that matter in this country are the ones we have to buy shit for.
Eh-hem... 362 dollars worth of fireworks, not to mention the four day trip to Pahrump, Nevada to get them. At least it was worth it... Two massive assortments, several smaller ones, incidental extras, everything buy one get one free, and 50% off. That trip took three years to set off, using not only Independence day, but also New Years and Memorial Day each year. Although I did always have to buy more bottle rockets and firecrackers...

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Reactionary passive aggressive attack on the idea of gay pride. Rather childish in of itself, but a symptom of a greater issue.
Yeah ... the idea isn't new, either. Nobody holds a white pride parade without sinister overtones of the people who make it a reality. Then again, there is still a Columbus Day, which is a national holiday... and an Australia Day, which is a national holiday... plenty of fucked up days to celebrate internationally.

It would be alright if the latter was at least held as if in memorial for the worst expressions of colonialism. Kind of like Anzac Day ... national holiday, but it's more in solemn and regretful experience.
It's why I'm glad I live in the US, our national holiday that revolves around our country telling Great Brittan to go take a flying leap.

OT: Straight pride day... Yeah that's necessary, because society tells heterosexual folk that they're making an immoral lifestyle choice, or that they're mentally ill, and in either case should be ashamed of themselves... Right? Oh wait that's what happens to LGBTQI+ folk, we get told all those horrible things, we're the ones subject to massive violence for just being ourselves. That's the reason that gay pride even exists in the first place.

What I find irritating is that L&G parts of the community often at best just ignores the BTQI+ parts of the GSM community, at worst in the case of the trans community, they work actively against us. The instead of getting our own pride day, we get told, not even asked, but told, to share gay pride as LGBT Pride... Not that I, or most of the trans folk that I know really object to sharing pride day, or month celebrations. Still there is a lot of lingering animosity there, with how often the T part is ignored, or openly oppressed by the L&G part. Although that's a different discussion entirely.

Still straight pride? Yeah that's a pretty petty passive aggressive shot being taken at the GSM community. The people who come up up with these sorts of idea tend to be the "I'm not a homo/transphobe, but..." types, the ones who say "I've got no problem with gay/trans people", when they actually do have a problem... It's just... Blegh!
 

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KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime said:
It's why I'm glad I live in the US, our national holiday that revolves around our country telling Great Brittan to go take a flying leap.
Well, that's one of the big reasons why there's been a bit of support to celebrate 9 May. Which was the first day of the opening of the Federal Parliament of Australia. Some people suggest just extending New Years Day to 2 Jan ... and renaming 1st of January as Federation Day. But frankly that's kind of dumb. 9 May could easily be seen as a proper Federation Day.
 

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PaulH said:
KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime said:
It's why I'm glad I live in the US, our national holiday that revolves around our country telling Great Brittan to go take a flying leap.
Well, that's one of the big reasons why there's been a bit of support to celebrate 9 May. Which was the first day of the opening of the Federal Parliament of Australia. Some people suggest just extending New Years Day to 2 Jan ... and renaming 1st of January as Federation Day. But frankly that's kind of dumb. 9 May could easily be seen as a proper Federation Day.
Now that's not a bad idea, it'd be at least a nice replacement for Colonialist Australia Day
 

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Pffffffft more like Heterosexual Shame Day.

Seriously what's wrong with some people? It's like the White Pride thing. "I know these people were oppressed for hundreds of years, BUT I WANT A HASHTAG TOO".

It's childish, really.
 

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DudeistBelieve said:
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It's trending on Twitter.

Seriously though, how do things get days or months? What agency decides this stuff?
Doesn't have to be anyone, doesn't have to be official, a few of the big ones aren't. IIRC, the International Transgender Day of Remembrance doesn't have official status.
So all you need is to spread the word around?

We should start a holiday for the most pointless thing. like Air. Lets make a day to celebrate air.
Pretty much yeah. Send out the call on social media, and if it catches momentum, you'll have people promoting it. Boom, you have "A Day". Considering some of the other things that have official "days", (seriously the list is hilariously silly), it doesn't surprise me at all. International Tomato Day, Talk In Third Person Day (March 3rd), May the Forth, and Revenge of the Fifth. Seriously it's just a cultural push thing.
 

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IIRC, being gay is not a choice, right? Then, it is an inborn quality. Thus, there's as much to be proud of being gay, as it is of being straight. So I don't see anything funny in this.
 

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Rastrelly said:
IIRC, being gay is not a choice, right? Then, it is an inborn quality. Thus, there's as much to be proud of being gay, as it is of being straight. So I don't see anything funny in this.
Hear, hear. 'Cause that's real equality - being seen as exactly the same. So if gay people can have a day to celebrate themselves and their lifestyle, why can't straight people?

Because I thought the idea of us all considering homosexuality as 'normal' as heterosexuality is, and stop me if this is too complicated, that there is no difference between gay and straight people (apart from the obvious, of course). Including having celebratory days and parades regarding sexual identity.

Or maybe I'm just old fashioned. :)
 

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Rastrelly said:
IIRC, being gay is not a choice, right? Then, it is an inborn quality. Thus, there's as much to be proud of being gay, as it is of being straight. So I don't see anything funny in this.
Well you have a few conflicts here. First is that there are people who insist being gay, or trans, or bi, or etc... is a choice, in spite of evidence to the contrary. More importantly is that the people who believe such things are a choice use that position to tell people to be ashamed of themselves for being themselves.

The reason gay pride exists in the first place is as a rejection of the shame projected on to the gay community by the straight majority. The other reason it exists is as a show of solidarity against oppression and bigotry. Where on the other hand the concept of a heterosexual pride day is a petty passive aggressive concept used to reinforce the cultural dominance of straight people who wish to marginalize GSM folk.
 

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As a bisexual dude who is becoming more open about hisself, I really don't see any sort of issue with Heterosexual Pride Day. Doesn't harm me or anything and honestly yeah everyone deserves a day to celebrate themselves, Gay Bi or straight. So I say people do it as long as people don't use it for an excuse to be dicks. Honestly see no issue with it
 

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KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime said:
Where on the other hand the concept of a heterosexual pride day is a petty passive aggressive concept used to reinforce the cultural dominance of straight people who wish to marginalize GSM folk.
It could be that - doesn't mean it has to be. It could just be a 'Yay Us!' type of thing.
 

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THM said:
It could be that - doesn't mean it has to be. It could just be a 'Yay Us!' type of thing.
Point well made. I frankly don't give a flying feck about people being gay or not, you might be, or you might not be, nothing to do with me really. Sure, I'll call people out if they're being dicks, but that doesn't have anything to do with sexuality, it's a matter of common curtesy.
So, why can't I, and everyone like me, have a day where we say "Go mister everyman who isn't a dick"? No reason only minorities or those who've been oppressed should get days all to themselves, right? There isn't a single day where we celebrate being white, straight, male, or anything along those lines. It kinda makes me feel unappreciated. So even if it is just the escapist, or some obscure internet forum, we should be able to say "today we give a shoutout to the heterosexuals, good on those of you who aren't complete tossers, after all you're the majority of straight people."
The main thing about days is the we celebrate the positive parts of it, or mourn the sad parts. We don't celebrate the complete assholes in the LGBT(and whatever letters you might prefer to add on to this) community when there is a pride parade. We don't celebrate the criminals, the violent, or the abusers, no, we celebrate the decent people.

I might be rambling at this point, actually I'm sure I'm rambling, but if some straight people can say "go, you decent LGBT folks" then why can't some of the LGBT guys(turn of phrase) say "go, you decent straight folks"?
 

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THM said:
KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime said:
Where on the other hand the concept of a heterosexual pride day is a petty passive aggressive concept used to reinforce the cultural dominance of straight people who wish to marginalize GSM folk.
It could be that - doesn't mean it has to be. It could just be a 'Yay Us!' type of thing.
Except it's not a 'Yay Us!' type of thing, it's coming of a place of competitiveness towards the GSM community, with the intention of lessening the importance of LGBT pride events. It's basically a means of being dismissive towards the whole concept outside of gay pride. As a 'Yay Us!' type thing it's meaningless, useless, and pointless, because cisgender heterosexual people haven't been told to be ashamed of their sexual orientation or gender identity for their entirelives. GSM folk have and being told to be ashamed of ourselves for arbitrary things we can't help is still a pervasive part of culture today.
 

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KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime said:
As a 'Yay Us!' type thing it's meaningless, useless, and pointless, because cisgender heterosexual people haven't been told to be ashamed of their sexual orientation or gender identity for their entirelives.
I think you mean 'straight people haven't been shamed regarding their sexuality or identity until certain groups and people decided identity politics were the be-all and end-all of cultural discussion'. And since that advent of that, yeah, quite a lot of hetero people have been made to feel ashamed - not only of who 'they' are, but what they've supposedly done to folks that have a different perspective and sexuality. All of the labels that you're throwing around are proof of that.
 

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I think on this day we should celebrate the tragic mental breakdown and death of one of the straightest characters ever conceived.
Of course I'm talking about Frank Grimes
 

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Straight pride is "I'm catered to 24/7 but the small amount of attention gay people get upsets me"
It's only that if you see it as that.
 

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shinyelf said:
There isn't a single day where we celebrate being white, straight, male, or anything along those lines.
Actually where I live, there kind of is. Back in the 90's when I was in highschool, there was a push by the white male contingent of the student body, to celebrate Southern Pride, and it happened to fall on Martin Luther King Jr Day, purely by accident I'm sure. They would come to school, wearing rebel flag clothing saying shit like "The South Will Rise Again", and having flags tied to their vehicles. I don't know if they still do it, seeing as I've been out of highschool for years now, but it was a thing around here. I personally found it really fucking stupid and insulting, but they were pretty fucking stupid guys, so it fit. I'm a Southern Cis White Hetero Male and I found it pretty distasteful and stupid, but, again, they were stupid guys.


shinyelf said:
It kinda makes me feel unappreciated. So even if it is just the escapist, or some obscure internet forum, we should be able to say "today we give a shoutout to the heterosexuals, good on those of you who aren't complete tossers, after all you're the majority of straight people."
The main thing about days is the we celebrate the positive parts of it, or mourn the sad parts. We don't celebrate the complete assholes in the LGBT(and whatever letters you might prefer to add on to this) community when there is a pride parade. We don't celebrate the criminals, the violent, or the abusers, no, we celebrate the decent people.

I might be rambling at this point, actually I'm sure I'm rambling, but if some straight people can say "go, you decent LGBT folks" then why can't some of the LGBT guys(turn of phrase) say "go, you decent straight folks"?
Because while it's theoretically possible that "Hetero Pride Day" was started by decent people who genuinely just wanted a day to celebrate being hetero, the likelihood of that actually being who started it is pretty slim. I suspect it's the same kind of mindset as the "Southern Pride Day" kids from my teenage years, reacting in a negative way.

That being said, I am all in favor of a Hetero Pride Day, because we do have a right to celebrate who we are if we want to. But depending on what they are saying and pushing at the Hetero Pride Day events, namely if they are using it as a platform to spout anti-non-hetero jargon, then yeah, fuck them. If it's just "Yay! We like Vaginas and Penises together!' Then I have no problem with them doing so, seeing as I too enjoy when penises and vaginas come (hur hur) together. But again, I has a disbelief that that is actually the point of the day.

Though of course, it could be a targeted attempt to get negative blow back from the LGBTQ community. "See?! They shit down our throats when we try to have a Day for our viewpoint! They're just as hateful and bigoted as anyone else!" But it depends on how much cynicism and deviousness you assume they have in place when making this event.