Hey Aion Beta testers

[Nurb]

Is the grind better or worse than in WoW? I saw a chart on a site that showed people needing XP to level will need to just kill mobs after all available quests are take but dunno how true that is.

 

[Emilie Diabolica]

hm i'd like to know as well. i'm in the mood for a good mmo, not a grind-fest...

 

[Amnestic]

Aion is a Korean MMO, right? I've played CABAL. Aion will have grind up the arse.

 

[Nurb]

Well played wow for about 4 years, and the beta for about 2 months.. I really think the grinding in Aion is way more fun than grinding in wow. Can't really explain why, but it just feels different. (and you don't need to grind only when there's no quests around, since there are Repeatable Quests, and you get xp for lvl up your profession and gathering skill.

now is it from quests or are you out killing mobs when you talk about the grind?

 

[Blind0bserver]

I've never played WoW, but during the beta for Aion I was never once bored or annoyed/frustrated with how long it took to level up skills or my character's actual level. I guess that counts for something.

 

[WillSimplyBe]

WoW's grind is nothing compared to most Korean MMOs, hell, there are some that require roughly a year's worth of play to achieve the true max level.

People who have experience with Korean MMOs probably wont be offput by the grind in Aion.

 

[Worgen]

aion us much better about it then... pretty much every asian mmo it still seems to take a bit longer to lvl then in wow but so far in what I played of it there were plenty of quests around so while you still have to work to lvl you always have things to do to lvl, unlike some parts of wow, Im looking at you stv and lvl 38-45.... I think

 

[Nurb]

I've never played WoW, but during the beta for Aion I was never once bored or annoyed/frustrated with how long it took to level up skills or my character's actual level. I guess that counts for something.

yea, I thought the same thing for a few years in WoW but then it got to the point of being a second job, so I'm trying to judge based on others' opinions because I don't wanna make a blind MMO purchase like I did when I wasted money on Warhammer Online, and I know Korean MMOs are notoriously grind oriented (learned the hard way from the Lineage 2 open beta). Are you at higher levels?

WoW's grind is nothing compared to most Korean MMOs, hell, there are some that require roughly a year's worth of play to achieve the true max level.

People who have experience with Korean MMOs probably wont be offput by the grind in Aion.

Ha ha, well I can't stand the Korean ones, like I said, I tried Lineage 2 and was really annoyed I had to kill SOOOO many mobs just to be able to get the noob starter quests. I couldn't play more than a day or 2 with it. And while I can appreciate taking time to reach a max level, I just don't want to devote all my spare time to a game

 

[Blind0bserver]

I've never played WoW, but during the beta for Aion I was never once bored or annoyed/frustrated with how long it took to level up skills or my character's actual level. I guess that counts for something.

yea, I thought the same thing for a few years in WoW but then it got to the point of being a second job, so I'm trying to judge based on others' opinions because I don't wanna make a blind MMO purchase like I did when I wasted money on Warhammer Online, and I know Korean MMOs are notoriously grind oriented (learned the hard way from the Lineage 2 open beta). Are you at higher levels?

Nope, I don't believe my character from beta broke into the 20's. Then again, I wasn't really trying, I was just screwing around most of the time.

 

[WillSimplyBe]

I've never played WoW, but during the beta for Aion I was never once bored or annoyed/frustrated with how long it took to level up skills or my character's actual level. I guess that counts for something.

yea, I thought the same thing for a few years in WoW but then it got to the point of being a second job, so I'm trying to judge based on others' opinions because I don't wanna make a blind MMO purchase like I did when I wasted money on Warhammer Online, and I know Korean MMOs are notoriously grind oriented (learned the hard way from the Lineage 2 open beta). Are you at higher levels?

WoW's grind is nothing compared to most Korean MMOs, hell, there are some that require roughly a year's worth of play to achieve the true max level.

People who have experience with Korean MMOs probably wont be offput by the grind in Aion.

Ha ha, well I can't stand the Korean ones, like I said, I tried Lineage 2 and was really annoyed I had to kill SOOOO many mobs just to be able to get the noob starter quests. I couldn't play more than a day or 2 with it. And while I can appreciate taking time to reach a max level, I just don't want to devote all my spare time to a game

Well Nurb, I was just listing one serious case(Ragnarok Online 1-99, then transcendance, and 1-99 again...and now MORE since they will soon be releasing third classes, with an even higher level cap and the boon of being able to transcend THEN go third class)

There are korean MMOs that are getting less grindy nowadays, though. And even some that have ways of lessening the struggle of grinds. Everything from missions to Sword of the New World: Granado Espada's 3 person, auto-pilot fighting system.

Anyway, Though generally Japanese MMOs are all about the social, and Korean MMOs are all about the grinding, and American MMOs are more quest-centric, MMOs as a whole are forming a melting pot of the three aspects, creating something fresh and better.

I say, dont be daunted by the Korean MMO reputation, give the game a serious try if your interrested.

*EDIT*
Also, Nurb, your Avatar. I leik it.

 

[Nurb]

I've never played WoW, but during the beta for Aion I was never once bored or annoyed/frustrated with how long it took to level up skills or my character's actual level. I guess that counts for something.

yea, I thought the same thing for a few years in WoW but then it got to the point of being a second job, so I'm trying to judge based on others' opinions because I don't wanna make a blind MMO purchase like I did when I wasted money on Warhammer Online, and I know Korean MMOs are notoriously grind oriented (learned the hard way from the Lineage 2 open beta). Are you at higher levels?

WoW's grind is nothing compared to most Korean MMOs, hell, there are some that require roughly a year's worth of play to achieve the true max level.

People who have experience with Korean MMOs probably wont be offput by the grind in Aion.

Ha ha, well I can't stand the Korean ones, like I said, I tried Lineage 2 and was really annoyed I had to kill SOOOO many mobs just to be able to get the noob starter quests. I couldn't play more than a day or 2 with it. And while I can appreciate taking time to reach a max level, I just don't want to devote all my spare time to a game

Well Nurb, I was just listing one serious case(Ragnarok Online 1-99, then transcendance, and 1-99 again...and now MORE since they will soon be releasing third classes, with an even higher level cap and the boon of being able to transcend THEN go third class)

There are korean MMOs that are getting less grindy nowadays, though. And even some that have ways of lessening the struggle of grinds. Everything from missions to Sword of the New World: Granado Espada's 3 person, auto-pilot fighting system.

Anyway, Though generally Japanese MMOs are all about the social, and Korean MMOs are all about the grinding, and American MMOs are more quest-centric, MMOs as a whole are forming a melting pot of the three aspects, creating something fresh and better.

I say, dont be daunted by the Korean MMO reputation, give the game a serious try if your interrested.

*EDIT*
Also, Nurb, your Avatar. I leik it.

I do want to try it, but have no idea when the open beta is going to be. And sadly if I cant make it into OB and I can't try it, I won't be buying it. Though if you happen to end up with a guest/buddy/referral key, I'd happily accept it

and, I'm glad you like it, for limecat will one day rule with an iron fuzzy fist. Mwa ha ha

 

[WillSimplyBe]

@Nurb
xD I'm going into College, i havent even bothered to pre-order the game, so I wont be in CB and probably wont make it to the game till it goes full version, but at least at that point, there wont be the huge "ITS POPULAR! WHAARGARBLE!" and the "Im just taking a week off from WoW to try this game and NO, SUCKS, LOL, its just a WoW clone!" crowds. They'll clear away and I'll be able to play without the SEVERE overcrowding I fear this game will open with.

*sigh*
though I do wish I could have tried the closed beta.

 

[tsolless]

I'm not apart of the beta but the testers should be reminded of the NDA (Non Disclosure Act) that you can be sued over for breaching. It's highly unlikely but it's good to know the risks.

 

[Nurb]

I'm not apart of the beta but the testers should be reminded of the NDA (Non Disclosure Act) that you can be sued over for breaching. It's highly unlikely but it's good to know the risks.

asking for opinions wether or not the grind is better than WoW is not a violation of the NDA they aren't revealing anything about the game itself

 

[Calamity]

Honestly It's really hard to say at this point, the retail version of the game and the beta version we got to play so far are different (1.5 vs 1.0? don't remember).
According to NC soft 1.5 has 300ish more quests and a lower XP curve, but no one knows for sure as we haven't tested it yet. Open beta on the 6th is suposed to be a test of the 1.5 retail patch, so I'd recommend you ask us then.

 

[Halfbreed13]

Aion has TONS of preorders on steam and gamestop, so I assume it will be popular. Most people who have played it say it is like WoW with wings and PvPvE thrown in.

Personally, I look forward to Global Agenda.

 

[Ultrajoe]

I'd wait for the new WoW expansion, personally, it's removing the tedious aspect of the 1-60 quests and replacing them with the utterly awesome ones from places like Northrend. Nothing says 'Welcome to the awesome' like capturing and riding a mammoth through an army to do battle with another dude on a mammoth, or ploughing through undead in a tank, and that's the merest tip of the iceberg.

I haven't really looked into Aion, it's only in the Beta so i'm forgiving it the obvious faults that is has currently, they'll be adressed before the release (hopefully...) and the game gets into full swing. People have been saying the grind is more prevalent, but less irritating. That said, some people have said that once the magic and initial novelty wears off and you get stuck into the game, you run into a wall of grind and literally identical quests more shocking than a brick to the brain.

 

[Syntax Error]

I'd wait for the new WoW expansion, personally, it's removing the tedious aspect of the 1-60 quests and replacing them with the utterly awesome ones from places like Northrend. Nothing says 'Welcome to the awesome' like capturing and riding a mammoth through an army to do battle with another dude on a mammoth, or ploughing through undead in a tank, and that's the merest tip of the iceberg.

I haven't really looked into Aion, it's only in the Beta so i'm forgiving it the obvious faults that is has currently, they'll be adressed before the release (hopefully...) and the game gets into full swing. People have been saying the grind is more prevalent, but less irritating. That said, some people have said that once the magic and initial novelty wears off and you get stuck into the game, you run into a wall of grind and literally identical quests more shocking than a brick to the brain.

Never played WoW before, but I think its appeal is that once you do get "stuck", you're probably in the End game anyway,and there are a lot of options for you to plough through. Most MMO's I played, the endgame is just hours upon hours of PVP, to try and prove you're the best because of your 'l337z itamz'.

Anyway, I might try this out, looks interesting.

 

[Nieroshai]

While I was playing it really seemed questing leveled you up faster than grinding.