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Avayu

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Generic Gamer said:
Avayu said:
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Swords are symbolic of nobility, command and martial ability. The image of the sword-wielding hero is as old as swords themselves are. A sword bearing hero adopts the mantle of a noble knight on a quest.
Exactly. Oh, and not to forget, a sword is essentially a phallic symbol, isn't it?
No it's not, a sword is a machine of death. A sword can be made into a phallic symbol but that wasn't inherent in it's design. A sword is designed to be functional but I suppose it could be used as a phallic analogy, the problem with that being that the sword-wielders aren't really the type to be sexually concerned.

A sword is a symbol of nobility, the commoners use their axes and daggers, a nobleman has his sword. The sword is more a reflection of the wielder's nature, a noble prince has his dainty mirror bright sword and a grizzled warrior has his notched lump of steel. A sword is a picture of the character.
I know, I probably should have made it more obvious that I was joking, at least a little bit.
Even though better weapons have been developed, swords still have their symbolic value. That's why knights often still used swords even though they had become nearly obsolete and why officers in the military always carried swords and often even do so today.
 

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Tenkage said:
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I know, it kind of bothers me too. I'd kill for a spear or glaive kind of thing, which is part of the reason I love Dynasty Warriors so much, since there are so many weapons to choose from. Or something else, just not a sword. I guess, however, they're kind of easy to fight with, and well balanced (cause, you know, lop off the head of a spear and it's a stick, and a full-sized one would be ridiculously impractical).
A Main Character with a glaive...that would be badass, or a Katar
Feck yes.
 

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Demented Teddy said:
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Sword's seem to be the most efficient melee weapon considering that over 75% of it is sharp pointy death (most of the time).
Spears are apparently better.
Teddy has it here, or to be more precise, the halberd. Toward the end of the era of swords and other awesome pointy weapons muskets and pistoleers dominated the battle field. The only pointy weapon to feature in the age of guns at this point was {rarely} the officer rapier an, more commenly, the halberd. The halberd has the massive advantage of reach, and seeing as your average joe was hardly as deft with a sword as many characters we see in movies/games, being able to stab your enemies in the face from a good 1-2 meters away in relative safety was a massive plus. Pikes/halberds where always very effective weapons. I would rather kill you from over here than over there nearer to you.
 

DeaconSawyer

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I think it is a culture thing. We are trained now to not only admire a sword bearer most, if not like them the most, and also to recognize the fantasy genre by large guys with big swords and/or shields. Anyway, it must focus test well.
 

thylasos

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It's the archetypal (or stereotypical, depending on your view) heroic accoutrement, as well as some form of steed.
 

dex-dex

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because swords are awesome and you don't fuck with someone who has a sword unless you have a rocket launcher.
 

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The Procrastinated End said:
Sword's seem to be the most efficient melee weapon considering that over 75% of it is sharp pointy death (most of the time).
Actually, many swords are a lot less versatile than you think, at least when compared to a dagger or spear.

I think it might come from the old nobles use swords idea. Since the middle ages or whatever when only rich people could afford swords, the idea that you're more badass if you have a sword has probably trickled down.
But yeah, it'd be cool for a protaganist to have a weapon other than generic sword. A spear would be cool.
 

interspark

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not always, i find in comparison to other games that RPGs have alot of freedom and let you use more or less whatever you want (like pokemon or fable)
 

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Avayu said:
Generic Gamer said:
Swords are symbolic of nobility, command and martial ability. The image of the sword-wielding hero is as old as swords themselves are. A sword bearing hero adopts the mantle of a noble knight on a quest.
Exactly. Oh, and not to forget, a sword is essentially a phallic symbol, isn't it?
I've had people tell me that pencils and pens are a phallic symbol meant to discourage women from getting an education and careers.

Pretty much every long and straight object and be twisted into a phallic symbol. That doesn't mean they actually are.

Edit: Sorry... i wrote that before you said you were joking...

eh heh heh heh...
 

iLikeHippos

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The sword is a good all-around weapon. It's also quite cheap in comparison to other melee weapons. Otherwise they'd not be bought as often by Kings. (In my own logic, though I've yet to google it... Too lazy)

The sword-wielding dude can be defeated by spears, arrows, staffs... And many other weapons that are too damn hard to spell.
But, it's cheap, good all-around and light.
 

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I think a sword is kind of just a good all-arounder. They're fairly fast and balanced and streamlined and have decent reach, while providing a lot of ways to attack. There's also a good defensive element to them, as they allow for either using a one-hander with a shield or using a two-hander to block enemy attacks. Two skilled enemies facing off with swords can create an epic battle, and that infuses more of a sense of "honor", facing your enemy in close combat and relying on skill more than brute strength.
The thing with spears (pikes, halberds, etc.) is they're more suited for creating a defensive line as opposed to open combat. A long stick with a sharp thing at the end is best for having a bunch of unskilled guys stand in a row and letting the charging enemy impale themselves on it. That, or you have a short, light spear that would be more mobile but would essentially be a sword made mostly of breakable wood with only a very small area of it that's actually dangerous. Also, if I'm holding a spear, it gives a cushion of space between me and my enemy, but once they get closer to me than the tip of my spear, there's not much I can do besides hit them with the shaft.
Axes and other large, heavy swinging weapons are also pretty limited. I swing, then I have to lift back up, then swing again, hoping I smash my enemy to bits the first time. There's not mush finesse involved, which makes them seem more like the weapon for some brutish enemies rather than the noble hero.
All of this is based on thinking about actual, "realistic" properties of weapons (at least what I've observed about them) as opposed to the mythical "sword-the-size-of-a-car, fighting-in-the-air-for-45-minutes" combat properties of some games.
 

Cheesepower5

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One of my favourite things in the SNES Action RPG "Terranigma" is that the main character uses staffs and spears.

Infinitely more badass than swords.
 

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Demented Teddy said:
The Procrastinated End said:
Sword's seem to be the most efficient melee weapon considering that over 75% of it is sharp pointy death (most of the time).
Spears are apparently better.
I agree with this as I did many times before. There should be group called Spears(or polearms) Over Swords. Just for lulz.
 

Arcanite Ripper

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Swords are usually the iconic weapon of choice for making those glorified, intensity kills seem even better if you have to risk the danger of yourself by charging up and cutting their nipples out.

Also, some (maybe most) RPG combat mechanics have a variation of turn-based combat. If we're considering guns as a better option, that would look increasingly silly.

Now if the main character had a Trebuchet...
 

Tharwen

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Mr. Tolkien liked them.

You can relate almost any fantasy cliche to that simple fact. The fantasy setting owes almost everything to that one man's works.
 

Nazulu

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I agree. I'm over swords, I wish they would wave a fucking flail over their head and knock someones helmet off. Actually, an axe would be enough difference, the only time I used an axe in a game was in MMO's.
 

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King Arthur is the best know hero of all times and excaliber the most well know sword of all time. Since then a hero and his sword have been a tradition in fiction
 

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Tenkage said:
Hey Ever Notice that most RPG's have the main character using a Sword, I mean the lead main character (Cloud, Sora, Squall, ect) I mean I understand the whole idea, but why always a sword, or a varation of the sword (Gunblade, keyblade, double blade ect)
Swords are a symbol of authority, thus there common place amongst protagonists...I myself would prefer a spear...Most basic weapon but one of great use.