Hidden Blade Mechanics

[Amnestic]

I feel quite thick now, but how exactly does one activate something using a ring? Would it just be by bending his finger? But then how would he use his pinky to grab onto ledges and such?

I assume he twitches or pulls it in a certain way to reveal his hidden blade (hurr hurr hurr) which doesn't occur while climbing.

But there was no ring on his finger. I was playing it earlier today, because I remembered I still like it, and felt like playing it again. And there is NO ring on this little finger.

They may have just not animated it in game. You really wanna know so bad? E-mail Ubisoft and ask them.

 

[ShadowsofHope]

Doesn't Altair twitch his hand when he brings out the hidden blade? Maybe it got something to do with that?

When not in use, the blade is hidden in a gauntlet on Altaïr's lower left arm. Altaïr triggers it via a ring on his little finger. This causes a gear system to eject the blade, hopefully into the neck or stomach of an enemy.

Source. [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Hidden_Blade]

I feel quite thick now, but how exactly does one activate something using a ring? Would it just be by bending his finger? But then how would he use his pinky to grab onto ledges and such?

In the opening trailer for AC1, Altair jerks his pinky finger back, bending the finger wouldn't pull the string taught, thus not activating the hidden blade.

And the more you know.~

 

[Tears of Blood]

In the opening trailer for AC1, Altair jerks his pinky finger back, bending the finger wouldn't pull the string taught, thus not activating the hidden blade.

The opening trailer isn't canonical. It shows a Altair using a crossbow and shivving some dude he didn't even kill in the game.

OT: I figured out a way!

This would require long sleeves and a small hole, but you could easily have a mechanism that extends to the backside of your hand. When you pull your wrists back (like revving a motorcycle) to get your fingers clear of the blade, it will depress the mechanism which will in turn trigger the folding mechanism which pops out the blade. The process could be repeated to return the blade to its holster below the gauntlet.

I obviously haven't drawn anything, as I am not a whiz at this or something, but I am pretty sure it could work, and you could still keep your fingers.

 

[Godhead]

Guys, Altair did not have his ring finger chopped off because of the hidden blade. It was lopped off as a sign of fealty to the assassin clan. Which is why Ezio has all his fingers, he was never formally turned into a member of the assassin's order. (plus it amkes altair look like a badass)

 

[Amnestic]

In the opening trailer for AC1, Altair jerks his pinky finger back, bending the finger wouldn't pull the string taught, thus not activating the hidden blade.

The opening trailer isn't canonical. It shows a Altair using a crossbow and shivving some dude he didn't even kill in the game.

It was clearly a kill he made before you actually start the game and the hunt for the Templar Treasure.

And he drops his crossbow. He never bothered asking for a new one, explaining why you never get one in game.

/It's logical, honest.

 

[Tears of Blood]

It was clearly a kill he made before you actually start the game and the hunt for the Templar Treasure.

And he drops his crossbow. He never bothered asking for a new one, explaining why you never get one in game.

/It's logical, honest.

In Acre?

That totally makes sense since the treasure was in Jerusalem. >.>

Wait, wasn't I supporting your answer to the thread?

EDIT: Wait, wait. Bad logic. Ignore.

 

[Xero Scythe]

Doesn't Altair twitch his hand when he brings out the hidden blade? Maybe it got something to do with that?

When not in use, the blade is hidden in a gauntlet on Altaïr's lower left arm. Altaïr triggers it via a ring on his little finger. This causes a gear system to eject the blade, hopefully into the neck or stomach of an enemy.

Source. [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Hidden_Blade]

I feel quite thick now, but how exactly does one activate something using a ring? Would it just be by bending his finger? But then how would he use his pinky to grab onto ledges and such?

most likely it would be accomplished by bending the pinky backwards instead of normally.

But there was no ring on his finger. I was playing it earlier today, because I remembered I still like it, and felt like playing it again. And there is NO ring on this little finger.

good, if someone noticed it, then he wouldn't be much of an assassin, now would he?

 

[Aesir23]

In the opening trailer for AC1, Altair jerks his pinky finger back, bending the finger wouldn't pull the string taught, thus not activating the hidden blade.

The opening trailer isn't canonical. It shows a Altair using a crossbow and shivving some dude he didn't even kill in the game.

OT: I figured out a way!

This would require long sleeves and a small hole, but you could easily have a mechanism that extends to the backside of your hand. When you pull your wrists back (like revving a motorcycle) to get your fingers clear of the blade, it will depress the mechanism which will in turn trigger the folding mechanism which pops out the blade. The process could be repeated to return the blade to its holster below the gauntlet.

I obviously haven't drawn anything, as I am not a whiz at this or something, but I am pretty sure it could work, and you could still keep your fingers.

True, very true. I think the crossbow was once supposed to be part of the game, but like co-op it was cut from the game. I'm not entirely sure though. A lot of things were cut from when we were first shown in game footage to the final product. (So don't quote me on that!)

Also, very inventive! It certainly looks like it goes well with the mechanics in the diagram

 

[Atheist.]

If you're in to rationalizing video games, can you please give me instructions on making my own BFG, Portal Gun, Bio Gun, Plasma Rifle, and one of those Teleporting guns from UT? Plus, I'd like to know how all these damn animals can talk, and how people can jump multiple times their height in a plumbing uniform.

 

[Tears of Blood]

Also, very inventive! It certainly looks like it goes well with the mechanics in the diagram

Leonardo Da Vinci, eat your heart out. xP

Really, though, I could probably think of something better if I had a few days to ponder.

If you're in to rationalizing video games, can you please give me instructions on making my own BFG, Portal Gun, Bio Gun, Plasma Rifle, and one of those Teleporting guns from UT? Plus, I'd like to know how all these damn animals can talk, and how people can jump multiple times their height in a plumbing uniform.

Oh geez. Don't be a jerk. The hidden blade is not comparable to any of those things. You're talking about things that are clearly impossible, compared to something that is totally plausible.

Seriously, don't be a prick.

 

[Aesir23]

Also, very inventive! It certainly looks like it goes well with the mechanics in the diagram

Leonardo Da Vinci, eat your heart out. xP

Eh, I don't think he'd be partial to eating his own heart. Not when he has so many others on hand. He may need to reheat it, nothing worse than a cold heart.

 

[Atheist.]

Also, very inventive! It certainly looks like it goes well with the mechanics in the diagram

Leonardo Da Vinci, eat your heart out. xP

Really, though, I could probably think of something better if I had a few days to ponder.

If you're in to rationalizing video games, can you please give me instructions on making my own BFG, Portal Gun, Bio Gun, Plasma Rifle, and one of those Teleporting guns from UT? Plus, I'd like to know how all these damn animals can talk, and how people can jump multiple times their height in a plumbing uniform.

Oh geez. Don't be a jerk. The hidden blade is not comparable to any of those things. You're talking about things that are clearly impossible, compared to something that is totally plausible.

Seriously, don't be a prick.

Being a prick, and being a realist are two completely different things. I only used extreme examples to prove a very simple point: It's a game. This object can be rationalized in numerous ways, none more true than the next (Within reason.) If he seriously can't conceieve a way for this contraption to work, he shouldn't be playing an M rated game. Ultimately though, it doesn't need to be rationalized. Why? Because it's a damn video game.

Oh, and thanks for the welcome. Auf Weidersehen.

 

[Firia]

how does one assure that a hidden blade doesn't misfire and take off two or three of the user's fingers?
Any thoughts?

Altair is actually missing his ring finger in AC1. So he can extend the blade through a clenched fist, and whatall. I dunno about Enzio.

 

[aarontg]

Cnsidering that the device isnt touched in anyway, I think its atracted by both the flexing of the arm mustle that activates simle spring hydrolics to spring out in the way thats shown.

 

[Tears of Blood]

Being a prick, and being a realist are two completely different things. I only used extreme examples to prove a very simple point: It's a game. This object can be rationalized in numerous ways, none more true than the next (Within reason.) If he seriously can't conceieve a way for this contraption to work, he shouldn't be playing an M rated game. Ultimately though, it doesn't need to be rationalized. Why? Because it's a damn video game.

Oh, and thanks for the welcome. Auf Weidersehen.

Had to take out the welcome, realized you actually came before I did, believe it or not. Lurker, you must be.

Anyway, it's not hurting you that we are fantasizing about possible designs of the blade, is it? You seem angry about the whole thing. We're fascinated by it 'cause it's completely plausible, and it'd be cool to come up with our own design that would actually work. We're like little engineers or something. I dunno'.

 

[Escapefromwhatever]

Also, very inventive! It certainly looks like it goes well with the mechanics in the diagram

Leonardo Da Vinci, eat your heart out. xP

Really, though, I could probably think of something better if I had a few days to ponder.

If you're in to rationalizing video games, can you please give me instructions on making my own BFG, Portal Gun, Bio Gun, Plasma Rifle, and one of those Teleporting guns from UT? Plus, I'd like to know how all these damn animals can talk, and how people can jump multiple times their height in a plumbing uniform.

Oh geez. Don't be a jerk. The hidden blade is not comparable to any of those things. You're talking about things that are clearly impossible, compared to something that is totally plausible.

Seriously, don't be a prick.

Being a prick, and being a realist are two completely different things. I only used extreme examples to prove a very simple point: It's a game. This object can be rationalized in numerous ways, none more true than the next (Within reason.) If he seriously can't conceieve a way for this contraption to work, he shouldn't be playing an M rated game. Ultimately though, it doesn't need to be rationalized. Why? Because it's a damn video game.

Oh, and thanks for the welcome. Auf Weidersehen.

Well thanks for the insult to my intelligence. I never expected this thread to result in that. Yes, I understand that its a video game, but that doesn't mean that the things presented within it are impossible. The hidden blade is obviously within the realm of plausibility, and while I have pondered about it and thought of ways of making it work, I made this thread for two reasons: 1. To find out if there is an actual, canonical explanation of how it works, and 2. to open up a discussion on different ways of making it work amongst my fellow escapists. There's no reason to go about throwing mean-spirited statements here.

 

[Atheist.]

Being a prick, and being a realist are two completely different things. I only used extreme examples to prove a very simple point: It's a game. This object can be rationalized in numerous ways, none more true than the next (Within reason.) If he seriously can't conceieve a way for this contraption to work, he shouldn't be playing an M rated game. Ultimately though, it doesn't need to be rationalized. Why? Because it's a damn video game.

Oh, and thanks for the welcome. Auf Weidersehen.

Had to take out the welcome, realized you actually came before I did, believe it or not. Lurker, you must be.

Anyway, it's not hurting you that we are fantasizing about possible designs of the blade, is it? You seem angry about the whole thing. We're fascinated by it 'cause it's completely plausible, and it'd be cool to come up with our own design that would actually work. We're like little engineers or something. I dunno'.

More like a combination of a lurker, and too busy with at the U to spend as much time in fun, yet pointless debates on the internet as I used to. Oh, and I don't get angry. I don't care enough for that. Being creative is fine, I just think you'd have more interesting results for engineering that contraption on a forum for, well, engineering.

Well thanks for the insult to my intelligence. I never expected this thread to result in that. Yes, I understand that its a video game, but that doesn't mean that the things presented within it are impossible. The hidden blade is obviously within the realm of plausibility, and while I have pondered about it and thought of ways of making it work, I made this thread for two reasons: 1. To find out if there is an actual, canonical explanation of how it works, and 2. to open up a discussion on different ways of making it work amongst my fellow escapists. There's no reason to go about throwing mean-spirited statements here.

Perhaps we have different definitions of mean spirited. Again, you're free to do as you wish, but you'll get far more creative results somewhere that the mean audience isn't in high school.

 

[omega 616]

Also, very inventive! It certainly looks like it goes well with the mechanics in the diagram

Leonardo Da Vinci, eat your heart out. xP

Really, though, I could probably think of something better if I had a few days to ponder.

If you're in to rationalizing video games, can you please give me instructions on making my own BFG, Portal Gun, Bio Gun, Plasma Rifle, and one of those Teleporting guns from UT? Plus, I'd like to know how all these damn animals can talk, and how people can jump multiple times their height in a plumbing uniform.

Oh geez. Don't be a jerk. The hidden blade is not comparable to any of those things. You're talking about things that are clearly impossible, compared to something that is totally plausible.

Seriously, don't be a prick.

Being a prick, and being a realist are two completely different things. I only used extreme examples to prove a very simple point: It's a game. This object can be rationalized in numerous ways, none more true than the next (Within reason.) If he seriously can't conceive a way for this contraption to work, he shouldn't be playing an M rated game. Ultimately though, it doesn't need to be rationalized. Why? Because it's a damn video game.

Oh, and thanks for the welcome. Auf Weidersehen.

Plasma is just superheated gas, so paint-ball gun mixed with a (really hot) flamethrower could make a plasma rifle, you would need asbestos gloves to hold the thing though.

 

[Cid Silverwing]

The mechanism is as such.

Spoiler

Altaïr and Ezio both use a ring-lever hooked to the spring system that when pulled in a specific direction springs the blade out.

 

[Tears of Blood]

So I think just about everybody here is familiar with the hidden blade by now. If not, then let me enlighten you- the hidden blade is the weapon used by Altair and Ezio in the Assassin's Creed franchise in order to pull off quick, stealthy, one-hit kills on unaware enemies. It is quite a cool tool and is iconic for the series, not to mention that it is perfectly possible to create a hidden blade in real life, except for one thing. I may just have missed something here, but does anybody else wonder how exactly one makes a hidden blade "fire"? Do Altair and Ezio just press a button we can't see and the blade comes out of its compartment? This seems to make sense, but in every screenshot I see of Ezio exposing his hidden blade, his hands are bare, with no "firing mechanism" attached to the vambrace which holds the deadly weapon. Also, how does one assure that a hidden blade doesn't misfire and take off two or three of the user's fingers? These may be minor complaints, but I'm seriously wondering how exactly hidden blades function.

Any thoughts?

OT: I figured out a way!

This would require long sleeves and a small hole, but you could easily have a mechanism that extends to the backside of your hand. When you pull your wrists back (like revving a motorcycle) to get your fingers clear of the blade, it will depress the mechanism which will in turn trigger the folding mechanism which pops out the blade. The process could be repeated to return the blade to its holster below the gauntlet.

I obviously haven't drawn anything, as I am not a whiz at this or something, but I am pretty sure it could work, and you could still keep your fingers.

Okay, I figured out that this is a bad design. Didn't take long. The climbing in the AC series would kick this straight to the curb. Instead, I took some inspiration from the original designs posted by Amnestic and Star Trek. Yeah, seriously.

Okay, so, this may be hard to imagine without a drawing, but bear with me. Imagine there is a safety system for the blade. It is released by doing Spock's sign.

Spoiler

Obviously, this is quite unnatural. You wouldn't need to do this for any other practical reason. The safety works by a set of four rings, one for each finger minus the thumb, attached to cords which run back into the gauntlet to release the safety. Then the rest is the same as what I previously posted.