History is repeating itself

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The only difference is, Half life in 2004 was best of all 3. in 2020 it will be worst of all 3. even worse, back in 2004 if someone told me 15 years later. new installment in same franchise will release but Half life would be worse of all 3 even worse than Halo and i would laugh in his face.

but i see its happening.

what do you think? lets discuss.
 

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Isn't this stretching things? So Doom 3, Half-Life 2, and Halo 2 were released in the same year. They've all had installments between now and the present.

Anyway, if you asked me to rate the 2004 games, it would go Doom 3>Halo 2>Half-Life 2. But if we're looking at the games now, I'm not particuarly enthused about any of them. Doom Eternal could be good, but it's got to fix the mistakes of Doom 2016. Halo Infinite is a game that's obstensibly coming out in 2020, but we still know nothing about it, and what little we do know has me uneasy. And Half-Life : Alyx? That can be summed up as the following:

Valve: We're making another Half-Life game

Me: That's neat

Valve: It stars Alyx

Me: That's neat

Valve: It's an interquel

Me: Sure. We all know you can't count to 3.

Valve: It's VR exclusive

Me: Fuck off.

So, yeah. History isn't repeating itself for me. It's more a case of all three franchises being on the edge of irrelevance and/or apathy for me.
 

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Well of course you dislike the new Half-Life, it features a female protagonist.
 

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Well of course you dislike the new Half-Life, it features a female protagonist.
While HL should only star gordon freeman but the fact that its vr only is slap in the face of fans. Unless its spin off and real HL3 is on way.
 

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B-Cell said:
While HL should only star gordon freeman
Yeah, but late for that. Barney, Adrian, Gina, and Colette say hello.
 

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I don't care, they're just fucking video games. HL is a 15ish year old franchise that some people are overly obsessed about to an unhealthy level.

If the new games aren't good, it's not the end of the fucking world, it's just a bad game, and there are thousands of those published every year. Stop hugging and crying into your Gordon Freeman body pillow and just find another game to enjoy.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
What is wrong with you? Halflife Alyx looks awesome. Not having the proper controller to play it doesn't mean it wont be awesome.
 

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What is wrong with you? Halflife Alyx looks awesome. Not having the proper controller to play it doesn't mean it wont be awesome.
I bet they'll release a non-VR version after a while. There's too much money in a Half-Life title not to.
 

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Alright, I am definitely confused. What is a low quality/effort meme supposed to be proving here? All I can extract is that b-cell has decided the new half life game must be shit for some reason. Is this like that PlayStation meme where some eejit thought that dishonestly presenting inclusion of foliage and trees must prove all the games are the same, ignoring the simple fact that foliage and trees are quite prevailent not only in reality, but almost all media portraying outdoor areas that aren't entirely desert, ocean or space, and that nature is often aesthetically pleasing to explore? Is that what this is? Except they are between the same series, so it makes it somehow even more meaningless?
 

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Neurotic Void Melody said:
where some eejit thought that dishonestly presenting inclusion of foliage and trees must prove all the games are the same
I have no clue who you could possibly be referring to... [/sarcasm]
 

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Adam Jensen said:
Worgen said:
What is wrong with you? Halflife Alyx looks awesome. Not having the proper controller to play it doesn't mean it wont be awesome.
I bet they'll release a non-VR version after a while. There's too much money in a Half-Life title not to.
but valve wont make another traditional Half life or single player game.

infact they havenot made one since 2011. they only make F2P and VR game. only reason Half life coming to VR is just to sell valve index and thats it.
 

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Adam Jensen said:
Worgen said:
What is wrong with you? Halflife Alyx looks awesome. Not having the proper controller to play it doesn't mean it wont be awesome.
I bet they'll release a non-VR version after a while. There's too much money in a Half-Life title not to.
I don't think they will. But, I do think they will make a companion game for it that isn't a vr game. Maybe it will have a 3.
 

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B-Cell said:
Adam Jensen said:
Worgen said:
What is wrong with you? Halflife Alyx looks awesome. Not having the proper controller to play it doesn't mean it wont be awesome.
I bet they'll release a non-VR version after a while. There's too much money in a Half-Life title not to.
but valve wont make another traditional Half life or single player game.

infact they havenot made one since 2011. they only make F2P and VR game. only reason Half life coming to VR is just to sell valve index and thats it.
If that was the case then why are they advertising it as working with other less expensive VR sets?
 

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Adam Jensen said:
Worgen said:
What is wrong with you? Halflife Alyx looks awesome. Not having the proper controller to play it doesn't mean it wont be awesome.
I bet they'll release a non-VR version after a while. There's too much money in a Half-Life title not to.
Is there really? It's a franchise that's been dead for well over a decade. There are plenty of gamers who have probably never even played it now, and they are the primary market that would need to make it viable. And the people who actually give a shit about HL (of which I am not one), and consider it the second coming of video game jesus for some reason (also not me, it was a fun game, but nothing to really write home about), are a fairly aging market at this point, given the full gamer market.

I just, don't really see this being as big of a deal as the people who have been carrying that HL torch all these years seem to think it will be.
 

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Hawki said:
B-Cell said:
While HL should only star gordon freeman
Yeah, but late for that. Barney, Adrian, Gina, and Colette say hello.
Barney at least got to show up in HL2 and the eps. The rest are MIA like they never existed at all.

And as someone who liked Opposing Force, I'm a little sad we're still never going to find out what happened to Adrian.
 

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Worgen said:
Adam Jensen said:
Worgen said:
What is wrong with you? Halflife Alyx looks awesome. Not having the proper controller to play it doesn't mean it wont be awesome.
I bet they'll release a non-VR version after a while. There's too much money in a Half-Life title not to.
I don't think they will. But, I do think they will make a companion game for it that isn't a vr game. Maybe it will have a 3.
If that's what they wanted, they need to actually announce it, or at least stop being so fucking evasive about it. What burns me, and a lot of people, is that there's no evidence HL3 is ever going to exist(or ever did in any tangible form) and yet despite years of people asking, Valve has never has the decency to just explain it's not happening/has been canceled.

Coming out of nowhere, over a decade later, to announce a VR-only side game makes it even more irritating.

Valve, you want me to be excited for Half Life again, you need to put up or shut up. #Finishwhatyoustarted
 

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All I got from that picture is that 16 years apart, we still have games featuring rifles, hands, and Master Chief.

Adam Jensen said:
I bet they'll release a non-VR version [of Half Life Alyx] after a while. There's too much money in a Half-Life title not to.
That's like saying they're bound to release a version of Half Life 2 that doesn't run on Steam.
 

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B-Cell said:
Oh noooooo, videos games just so happened to have slightly similar points in their games that maybe look a tiny bit like another during gameplay. They're all the same, how could I let Big Game Industry fool me like this?! I've been paying for the same game I ever bought this whole time, all 2 decades I've bought and played video games! All that money, waaaaaaaaasted!

what do you think? lets discuss.
I think you need to stop whinging about the same 6 games and maybe actually play some new ones for once so you can whinge about them instead.

Happyninja42 said:
I just don't really see this being as big of a deal as the people who have been carrying that HL torch all these years seem to think it will be.
HL has been dead up until this point, so we should be grateful anyone is getting anything Half Life at all. And if HL3 does come out, I am sure it will not be the masterpiece everyone expects it to be. It's probably gonna be ok like the others, then it's gonna have a hype overload explosion, and then it's gonna pull a Duke Nukem Forever and fall over and disappear with the rest of the releases. I bet the only thing that will persist are the memes that HL3 was truly confirmed for realzies this time