HL2 Ep3

[grimsprice]

So you're saying that eventually you have to stop liking a game because it doesn't meet today's standards. It'd be like saying the Evil Dead movies were good, but not anymore because the effects are outdated and was very silly at times, very much unlike today's movies. Yes, nostalgia can cloud the opinions of those who fail to think differently. That doesn't mean that old stuff is necessarily bad because it's old. I played HL2 not even a couple months ago from start to finish. It's the kind of game that could really hold my interest all the way through. Maybe it's because I don't play enough games, but I enjoyed it.

No, of course you don't have to stop liking it. I still like a fist full of N64 games. I still consider it to be the console that kicked the greatest amount of ass in its day.

But you have to realize that if a game, oh, lets say, ODST was launched the same year as Half Life 2, the entertainment industry would have collectively shit a brick about it. Half life 2 would have been long forgotten. These things are all relative. You have to realize that game become outdated, and to say they can hold up today and compete against newer titles is just not true.

As for your personal experience, enjoying the game today, i really don't have much to say. I have a shirt that says "EVERYTHING i say is ALWAYS a semi-applicable generalization."

And movies are a totally different bag than games. 85% of what makes a movie good is the delivery of it by the director and actors. 5% is a product of the hype-relativity-lensing equation. 10% is visuals. This is why Transformers 2 is shit, while Starwars epsiode 4 is a classic.

 

[Jennacide]

Your assertion is about as valid as creationism. LOL.

Yeah, and adding a big fat capitalized acronym makes you completely right. Oh wait. Maybe you need to look up what exactly a remake is, because Nintendo franchises are the epitomy of remakes. And Nintendo fanboys glorify Miyamoto for doing it.

Certain things age better than others. The Zelda formula ages like a fine wine, Half Life ages like milk in the sun.

Zelda hasn't aged at all. They reskin it with newer graphics, palette swap some characters, and repackage it with basically the same story and gameplay each time. What's even funnier, people idolize Ocarina of Time, even though it also coined a slang term for bad design "Water Temple."

Nintendo constantly gets away with bitchslapping thier fans, spitting in thier faces, and doing whatever corrupt garbage they can get away with. I mean goddam, Tingle was a giant joke at the expense of the entire Zelda fanbase. You can claim whatever you want about HL2 not being able to age if it were released today, it'd still be praised as great, because it was. It wasn't the gameplay or graphics that made it great, it was bringing likeable and believable characters to the table in a well thought out environment. Hell, that's why Bioshock did so well with such a dated graphics engine when it came out 2 years ago.

 

[RUINER ACTUAL]

I actually didn't buy L4D2 because I wanted them to finish half life first. Apparently I was in the minority of people who actually went through with it.

I got 6 other people to buy copies of TF2. but still...

Please finish your game. If you guys don't finish this series, I just might give up on video games all together. Fear 2 was such a miserable console port, I didn't even buy it. COD turned its back on Dedicated servers, Unreal pretty much is a console GoW developer only now... I can't stand using the xbox controller. If valve gives up on half life, I think I'll just quit all together.

It is sad. We could always hang ourselves with our Ethernet cables. That shit is strong.

 

[invitationofchaos]

I actually didn't buy L4D2 because I wanted them to finish half life first. Apparently I was in the minority of people who actually went through with it.

I got 6 other people to buy copies of TF2. but still...

Please finish your game. If you guys don't finish this series, I just might give up on video games all together. Fear 2 was such a miserable console port, I didn't even buy it. COD turned its back on Dedicated servers, Unreal pretty much is a console GoW developer only now... I can't stand using the xbox controller. If valve gives up on half life, I think I'll just quit all together.

finally someone who i can wholeheartedly agree with. i am sick of waiting for this game, i lost almost all of my gamers' integrity with valve replaying HL1 through HL2part2 waiting, until part 3 ends it. i havent given up on games and probably never will, but this is something dev's should stop doing. Beyond Good&Evil did this too as well as Duke Nukem, and i have yet to see silicon knights make Eternal darkness 2, instead of that shitty Too Human series...... i see that i started going on a tangent, so im gonna stop before i force myself to take another 2 yr hiatus from gaming.

 

[Skizle]

You gotta remember, Valve runs on Valve Time [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time].

Ha! Nice. Considering that this has "supposedly" in the works for the past few years and no information about the game or even a screen shot has surfaced I wouldn't get my hopes up anytime soon.

 

[Sisyphus0]

Certain things age better than others. The Zelda formula ages like a fine wine, Half Life ages like milk in the sun.

In your opinion. I recently replayed Hl2, hl2:ep1, hl2:ep2 and I had a great time. People who discount the importance of hl2 for gaming were not hardcore fps gamers in 2004 when hl2 was released. The step up from games at the time is really unparalleled, it absolutely blew doom 3 out of the water when people thought that was going to be its main competition. The reason hl2 seems bland today is becasue all of the great ideas it had at the time have been ripped off by tons of new games, improved upon in some, and remain essentially the same in others. Yet despite that, the set pieces in the half-life games were still just as thrilling as the first time I played through them. Valve is the one of the last bastions of a classic PC gaming focused model, in the sense of free updates and continued support for years after release (TF2 PC being a clear example) while most others have greedily followed in the Activision style of assholery. I'll wait patently for hl2:ep3, I'll never be without a great game to play with the steam library at my finger tips.

 

[Arcticflame]

The problem with what you say is that there is opinion. Such as I like ham. And truth. Such as I think ham is a giant space mushroom.

Naming a game that was technologically innovative, cinematically innovative, and critically acclaimed average has gone from opinion to plain wrong. You can say that you dislike a game due to personal taste, but you cannot say a game is bad when it is clearly at the very least, a cut above the rest.

E.G. I don't like radiohead, but I have to concede their worth to music.

The problem with what you say is that "technologically innovative, cinematically innovative, and critically acclaimed" is the very definition of wildly subjective. If half life 2 was released today, it would be boring, generic, heavily padded, and only barely engaging. Standards change, and its been so long since Half Life 2 came out that any expansion to it will not meet the industries entertainment standards.

No one said it wasn't important at the time. It has historical significance, like the first mono-winged airplane. But people won't go "ooooh ahhhhh" if you released it today.

Its a fossil. And should be treated like one. As something with great cultural and historic significance. It deserves respect and praise for the accomplishments it made when it was fresh. But to call it "awesome" in todays world is just nostalgia clouding your vision like cataracts.

Except remarking upon how good a game is out of it's historical context is effectively the same as criticising a medievil battle tactic because they didn't use assault rifles. It doesn't make any sense, we still call a clever manoevure from history genius despite it's technological limitations. It makes even less sense in the context of this entire topic. As surely a game that was released now would be updated for the times.

I don't know why you are preaching to me about things I didn't mention. I don't want half-life 2 released today. I want the new -updated- episode 3 to be released in the future. The one, that similar the other episodes that came after half-life 2, were updated to keep up with the times.

And I utterly disagree that it's wildly subjective. I fully understand the notion of subjective opinion, however I completely reject the idiotic post modern ideal of their being no meaning to anything, and therefore subjective opinion being absolute. Half-life 2 is one of those games that when properly reviewed by any reviewer worth a damn has to at least be valued as above average. That's as far as any subjective opinion can take it without being taken outside the bounds of competence.

And I don't see how you can say that any expansion to it won't meet industry entertainment standards. The source engine was made to be modular, it is easily updated to meet new standards. And besides, the last two expansions were just fine. In fact I'd say they were improving.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Every time you call Gabe Newell fat, he adds another week on to Ep 3's release date.

Great, that means we'll never get to play this fucking game.

 

[Kramcake2516]

You gotta remember, Valve runs on Valve Time [http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time].

Hahaha love it but it is so true i ant got any hopes of seeing episode 3 any time this life time

 

[wells02]

Every time you call Gabe Newell fat, he adds another week on to Ep 3's release date. So start a boycott of people who tease Newell and we'll have a starting point.

well... looks like we won't be saying ep 3 for a while.... because gabe is fat.