Homemade Star Trek Phaser Owns Balloons

SaintWaldo

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Tom Goldman said:
Jayrob created a phaser in the past that used a green beam [http://laserpointerforums.com/f51/tutorial-star-trek-phaser-mod-green-46761.html], but it's not as powerful as this one due to some sort of new custom focus adapter.
Incorrect. The focus adapter makes any laser no matter the wavelength more powerful by preventing ambient scattering and interference. What makes a blue laser more powerful than a green laser is the narrower wavelength and therefore a higher power in the coherent beam.

Remember, in order of decreasing wavelength and increasing power, it's ROYGBIV.

(edited because the coffee made me more exact)
 

hazabaza1

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tmujir955 said:
hazabaza1 said:
Oh, good lord.
Soon, the nerds shall rise up, and defeat the entire world, using replica weapons. Mind you, I believe I'm counted as a nerd, so I don't see why I'm worried.

Somebody get me my Blood Dragon Armour and longsword, I have some people to help.


Yes, that Dragon age Armour and sword shall do fine.

*[small]Muahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahaha[/small]*
 

GamingAwesome1

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How does that pop balloons? Seriously, I want to know what about that makes it pop balloons. Cos that is the most awesome thing I have ever seen, I want one of those things.
 

Katherine Kerensky

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Oh...
I want one. I really want one.
Although probably not as much as some things...
I need to get that cute figurine... huh?
[small]Haaauuuuuuu~[/small]
 

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SaintWaldo said:
Tom Goldman said:
Jayrob created a phaser in the past that used a green beam [http://laserpointerforums.com/f51/tutorial-star-trek-phaser-mod-green-46761.html], but it's not as powerful as this one due to some sort of new custom focus adapter.
Incorrect. The focus adapter makes any laser no matter the wavelength more powerful by preventing ambient scattering and interference. What makes a blue laser more powerful than a green laser is the narrower wavelength and therefore a higher power in the coherent beam.

Remember, in order of decreasing wavelength and increasing power, it's ROYGBIV.

(edited because the coffee made me more exact)
Though potentially, in terms of home-made lasers, being able to focus the beam more precisely might possibly improve a laser's effectiveness, no? But yeah, blue is better :)
 

CaptainCrunch

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SaintWaldo said:
Tom Goldman said:
Jayrob created a phaser in the past that used a green beam [http://laserpointerforums.com/f51/tutorial-star-trek-phaser-mod-green-46761.html], but it's not as powerful as this one due to some sort of new custom focus adapter.
Incorrect. The focus adapter makes any laser no matter the wavelength more powerful by preventing ambient scattering and interference. What makes a blue laser more powerful than a green laser is the narrower wavelength and therefore a higher power in the coherent beam.

Remember, in order of decreasing wavelength and increasing power, it's ROYGBIV.

(edited because the coffee made me more exact)
This is true, but the electronics driving the laser diode is also to blame. Wattage is king when it comes to laser products, and the hard truth is that higher wattage just costs too damn much in red and green diodes. This is partially due to excess heat, and partially from the process used to make diodes being rather limited.

Besides, blue lasers look way cooler.
 

gtamad12

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Even fan-made phasers look better than the originals, Dear lord I have to make myself one of these
 

SaintWaldo

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I still assert that wavelength is the first order force affecting power here.
CaptainCrunch said:
SaintWaldo said:
Tom Goldman said:
Jayrob created a phaser in the past that used a green beam [http://laserpointerforums.com/f51/tutorial-star-trek-phaser-mod-green-46761.html], but it's not as powerful as this one due to some sort of new custom focus adapter.
Incorrect. The focus adapter makes any laser no matter the wavelength more powerful by preventing ambient scattering and interference. What makes a blue laser more powerful than a green laser is the narrower wavelength and therefore a higher power in the coherent beam.

Remember, in order of decreasing wavelength and increasing power, it's ROYGBIV.

(edited because the coffee made me more exact)
This is true, but the electronics driving the laser diode is also to blame. Wattage is king when it comes to laser products, and the hard truth is that higher wattage just costs too damn much in red and green diodes. This is partially due to excess heat, and partially from the process used to make diodes being rather limited.

Besides, blue lasers look way cooler.
And a higher wavelength would need higher power...so I don't see your distinction. Wavelength of the light is the inverse proportion that drives this; wattage driving the diode is subordinate to the needs of the _diode_ not the other way around. To pull numbers out of this air just to prove the point, 5 watts won't drive a red laser that needs 10, just as 10 watts won't drive a blue laser that needs 20. The diode and its wavelength determine both input and output power. And both increase as wavelength decreases. Wavelength is the first order factor.

I will agree with your color preference. Blue lasers and LEDs are truly awesome looking lil' buggers, imo.
 

Sir Kemper

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I'm suddenly terrifed of Trekkies everywere....

Seriously though thats really cool, i would LOVE to try that thing myself.
 

CaptainCrunch

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SaintWaldo said:
And a higher wavelength would need higher power...so I don't see your distinction. Wavelength of the light is the inverse proportion that drives this; wattage driving the diode is subordinate to the needs of the _diode_ not the other way around. To pull numbers out of this air just to prove the point, 5 watts won't drive a red laser that needs 10, just as 10 watts won't drive a blue laser that needs 20. The diode and its wavelength determine both input and output power. And both increase as wavelength decreases. Wavelength is the first order factor.

I will agree with your color preference. Blue lasers and LEDs are truly awesome looking lil' buggers, imo.
I believe I have spoken in unspecific terms. Apologies for the confusion. I was relating the cost of the part itself - a 200 watt blue laser is simply more economical than a green or red equivalent, even though the power requirements are the same. This is due to the materials used in the diode construction, and the heat sink requirements of some diodes at power sufficient to pop balloons, or burn stuff.

At least, that was my experience when I made my phaser (before I botched the lens, anyway.) Though, technology has a way of innovation. Perhaps it is a bit more level now.
 

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[small]I'm still waiting for one-to-one fully functional replica of R.Y.N.O. launcher, though.[/small]
 

SaintWaldo

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CaptainCrunch said:
I believe I have spoken in unspecific terms. Apologies for the confusion.
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At least, that was my experience when I made my phaser (before I botched the lens, anyway.) Though, technology has a way of innovation. Perhaps it is a bit more level now.
Accepted and less confused. Also, way to go on building your own phaser. :)
 

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tmujir955 said:
Sean B. said:
Yeah I read this up in a Maximum PC magazine I also had the instructions but I lost the sheet...
You... you fool!

The instructions to ruling the universe were in your hands, and you lost them!

What can I say...

I know I am ashamed... but I was gone for a week and when I cam back home it was gone... so go easy on me.