Homosexuality

[Saltyk]

Unless they live in a swamp or is in denial, no one in modern society has anything against homosexuals, or very few anyway. Gay-jokes still get tossed around like snowballs in winter, and I think people should stop that and indeed any jokes based on soemthing that a person CANNOT change themselves. If it's cause a person smells funny, why not? They can fix that. They can't, however, fix their curly hair or love for hairy bums.

Me? I'm mostly attracted to women, but since I'm dating a guy that means I'm bi-sexual then =3.

I have a problem with that first statement. I know people who have problems with homosexuality, but it's more of a "I don't get it" than "I hate it" thing. They aren't bad people. They just have trouble understanding why. My grandparents are Catholic, and I'm sure have issues with that concept, but they aren't bad people. In fact, I'd say that they would accept a gay family member, they would just have moral qualms about their lifestyle.

And what do you mean gay jokes? The one I hear the most is "That was gay." Is that such a problem? Actually saw a commercial where some teens were talking about things being "gay", then Wanda Sykes walks up and starts talking about it being insulting and how would they feel if she started saying things were so "16 year old boy." Personally, I feel its a slang term. Not meant to offend (though I can see how it would offend some). Personally when I think "X is gay", I'm not implying that gay is bad. It's a completely different word to me.

Oh, and if Wanda Sykes did that to me, I'd look at her and say: "That was really gay, lady. Really gay!"

Now, before you think I'm a terrible person, let me clarify. I have no problem with homosexuality or bi-sexuality. I think of it like this. I'm a guy and I really like girls. They are really attractive to me. I'm not making myself think that. I don't see a guy and have to force myself from thinking how cute he is. I'm attracted to women as naturally as breathing. On top of that, so many people have problems with homosexuals, why would anyone CHOOSE to be that way? Obviously, they are just as naturally attracted to the same sex as i am the opposite sex. I'd just rather not be forced to see some of it, as it does make me a little uncomfortable.

 

[8-Bit Grin]

I've never had a problem with homosexuals, and my best friend is a truly flaming individual.

They present no real threat to everyday life, so let's leave the medieval mindset behind and mature as a culture.

 

[CincoDeMayo]

I have no problem with people being homosexual, as long as they respect that I'm straight. I have a friend who tends to cross that border (grabbing my ass "for luls"), it can get on my nerves sometimes but other than that I have no problems at all with it.

 

[Outright Villainy]

Asking about homosexuality onone of the most homo freiendly gaming forums there is (imho)...

Well I'm against it, I used to argue in some long thread where I listed all the arguments but the basic premise is:
Homosexuality is fine.
Saying it's normal is not.
It's a deviation. All in all, sex is about procreation and having offspriing as we are just animals that need to pass their genes. Homosexual "brain wiring" that is supposed to drive them to have sex is flawed and they are attracted to the wrong sex. So it is wrong, in the sense that it's broken.
Still, as homosexuality is harmles and doesn't affect any other aspects of life (on the contrary, homosexuals are often artistically talented) it's not my problem. But propagating it as an equal alternative to heterosexuality - a well developped and working system, pisses me of to no end.
I hate love parades and "educating" childeren that often have little idea what sex even is. We should teach tolerance, not lies.

Well, what's so great about pro-creation? Humanity has some pretty serious over population issues right now, promoting a lifestyle that doesn't result in offspring would be a good thing for our species at this stage.

 

[Mr Shrike]

I'm OK with homosexuality, as long as it's not massively obvious or forced upon me.

I mean, I'm not all up in your face with my heterosexuality.

 

[The_Emperor]

gayness is not a choice so to have a problem with it is equivalent to racism

also the word fag should not be a homophobic slur. in my mind it means wuss.

you can be homosexual and not a wuss. look at rob halford.

 

[bak00777]

im a lil uncomfortable around them sometimes(but not always) I dont have a problem with them adopting children or doing the whole domestic partnership thing, but i think marriage should be men+women only.

 

[rockyoumonkeys]

But if someone came on here with a genuine reason, whether it be Religion or the way they were brought up, I don't see why they should be attacked (or am I missing something)

Well, I guess the problem is that a lot of people (myself included) don't believe there is a "genuine reason" for being against homosexuality. As far as I'm concerned, any "reason", including religion or upbringing, is simply wrong. (Which makes it deliciously ironic that one above user expressed concern about gay couples adopting and "screwing up a child"). Now, I don't fault a person for being wrong, but I certainly don't have to respect him either.

 

[Kiju]

I'm fine with it. Hell, I better be, got a boyfriend myself.

But, yeah, I don't think it's fair that we can't have what "normal" pairing of male/female gets in legal benefits...at least, not that I could tell (I tend to pointedly avoid politics).

I don't understand what's song wrong with homosexuality; admittedly, I don't have much of a standing on understanding homophobia as a legitimate phobia given the fact I am bisexual myself, but I view it as thus: Homosexuality is as natural a part of human behavior as any other genetic trait. It's not a choice, it's not something we can choose to become in the sense that some people have. The 'choice' of homosexuality to those against it view it as something that you can just choose at a whimsy. And in a way, that is true; you can choose to be gay/lesbian at will, but you may not enjoy it as someone who was born with that trait would. What is our choice is whether or not we allow ourselves to accept our sexuality, despite the fact it goes against the "norm". Homosexuality was viewed as a completely normal, everyday occurrence in the past until Catholicism decided it was bad (Not wanting to bring religion into this, but it's mostly true).

I agree with the general consensus of 'don't ask, don't tell', being against those rather faggotry-ridden people dressing in tight shorts and pink everything. Those people disgust me, and need some serious help...they're not embracing their sexuality, they're shoving down other people's throats. It should be a crime to do that, but I'm afraid the law against such a thing would get out of hand. I'd like to be able to kiss my boyfriend in public; not make out with him until we're both half undressed...no, just a kiss or holding hands, a hug, something like that without someone jumping on my head about it.

...sorry, starting to rant. It's late/early, I need sleep.

 

[Ham_authority95]

"Let me see, Homosexuality is perfectly fine with me if it's not shoved in my face."
This. No problem, why should I ? But I dont care and I dont whant to know either. I am cool with Homosexuality, but (faggy) "NOTICE MY GAYNESS !!1" people seriously annoy me.

This. Fucking this.

I have a few gay friends, and I think that anyone should love whatever gender they want, but the second a gay pride parade comes to town, I feel like shooting at it with a flamethrower.

I mean, what the fuck? Should straight people have "Straight Pride" parades? Of course not.
Have your sexually preference, and quit telling people about it.

 

[project23]

I'm pretty sure all the major religions are against homosexuality, so it's therefore stupid to have a homosexual marriage.

Although I am heterosexual and non-religious (an I don't have any major problems with either of them), I do like information. So here is some information relevant to the topic.

"The Episcopal Church affirmed at the 1976 General Convention that homosexuals are "children of God" who deserve acceptance and pastoral care from the church. It also called for homosexual persons to have equal protection under the law. This was reaffirmed in 1982."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episcopal_Church_%28United_States%29#Homosexuality

 

[SUPA FRANKY]

I think you can do whatever the fuck you want, so I'm cool with homosexuality. I still do think its kinda of nasty, but who am I to say what you can and can't do?

 

[wynnsora]

Love is love! I have no issue with that.

 

[Malgan]

Been openly gay for two years now, and I've never met anyone that had a problem with it. Except my parents of course, but why would I care what they think?

 

[Angerwing]

Friends with a few gay people. Was friends with one (still superficial), until he came out (that was fine) and just started living up to every stereotype. He had huge amounts of support from his friends, so there was no good reason for this. It just gave me the shits that he was a flamer, and I lost all respect for him. I can't be friends with people I have no respect for.

Don't get me wrong, I don't care if you're gay, or even if you're extremely flamboyant about it. But when your personality changes to fit into your preferred social niche? Fuck that, and fuck you. Regardless of what niche that is.

 

[Vault Citizen]

I support the civil partnership and marriage of homosexuals but Im against children adoption.

Why?

 

[Vampire cat]

I have a problem with that first statement. I know people who have problems with homosexuality, but it's more of a "I don't get it" than "I hate it" thing. They aren't bad people. They just have trouble understanding why. My grandparents are Catholic, and I'm sure have issues with that concept, but they aren't bad people. In fact, I'd say that they would accept a gay family member, they would just have moral qualms about their lifestyle.

And what do you mean gay jokes? The one I hear the most is "That was gay." Is that such a problem? Actually saw a commercial where some teens were talking about things being "gay", then Wanda Sykes walks up and starts talking about it being insulting and how would they feel if she started saying things were so "16 year old boy." Personally, I feel its a slang term. Not meant to offend (though I can see how it would offend some). Personally when I think "X is gay", I'm not implying that gay is bad. It's a completely different word to me.

Oh, and if Wanda Sykes did that to me, I'd look at her and say: "That was really gay, lady. Really gay!"

Now, before you think I'm a terrible person, let me clarify. I have no problem with homosexuality or bi-sexuality. I think of it like this. I'm a guy and I really like girls. They are really attractive to me. I'm not making myself think that. I don't see a guy and have to force myself from thinking how cute he is. I'm attracted to women as naturally as breathing. On top of that, so many people have problems with homosexuals, why would anyone CHOOSE to be that way? Obviously, they are just as naturally attracted to the same sex as i am the opposite sex. I'd just rather not be forced to see some of it, as it does make me a little uncomfortable.

Well, if the only gay joke you hear is "thats gay" (which is hardly a joke anyway), then you haven't hear even the tip of the iceberg, but I guess being "gay" I'll notice this a lot more than you, for that exact reason that I and others like me are the target of those jokes. But lets imagine you had curly hair, or was black. Any jokes made about this I have no doubt you'd notice a lot more than now, same as if you yourself was homosexual.

Some people do indeed not understand homosexuality and so on. My grand dad won't even speak to me because of how I am. I don't think this is an excuse though, I'm sure he's not a bad person, before I came out about it I remember him as a nice guy, I still do. I just haven't seen him in years and years because he can't face me. Not understanding someones sexuality isn't really what's in question, it's accepting it, accepting people living their lives like they need to.

As I said, you cannot change certain details about you. You are who you are, unfortunately. Be it curly hair, sexuality, skin color, height or voice, your stuck with it (in some cases drastic meassures may be taken, that is true), and someone giving you crap about something you can't change makes them bad people in my opinion. Of course they can be good people, and if your grand dad could accept someone in your family being gay thats all anyone could ask for, his understanding isn't required.

Nothing hurts more than when a person close to you offends you, especially on something you cannot help. It's also really hurtful when someone you don't know does it, though not anywhere near as bad. I can't know if you've had ye olde bully in your life, but you might now it's not fun.

 

[DTWolfwood]

they are ppl too. personally i wish i had some gay friends. always nice to have different perspective. and for the most part very amiable ppl. (exception being the flaming homos, those ppl are just as bad as all the haters)

 

[Darkgoosey666]

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[Josdeb]

I am against homosexuality, but I am not homophobic, as I do not fear homosexuals. I just don't value their life choices.
If a person wants to take themselves out of the genetic pool so be it, but the second they decide to adopt and screw up a child I draw the line.

That is of course assuming that that person "wants" to be homosexual and take away their genes from the pool. That logic is flawed however: If a person wanted a child so badly as to want to adopt one, why would they "choose" to be gay?
Therefore, they have not chosen thier sexuality.

Also, how does a child get "screwed up" by gay parents?