Horoscopes

[iseko]

IMHO it's a load of donky droppings.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

My post

You are aware that there isn't just one kind of astrology right? Sidereal astrology for example moves it's signs and houses to align with the current positions of constellations in the sky. Derivations of sidereal astrology also use Ophiuchus, the thirteenth sign. Almost all western astrologers use the tropical zodiac with equal angle houses (the kind of astrology you're most likely use to) but astrological systems exist that incorporate almost anything you could want. Different systems are better for divining different things; they all have their various uses.

As far as I can tell, your complaint is less with astrology and more that astrology has not presented a united front.

No my complaint aout astrology is that it is not based on science. It always falls to the ground when tested via scientific methods, otherwise a lot of astrologers would have claimed James Randi's one million Dollar reward.

Preface to post, read this. You have to read this. Read this paragraph before posting any responses to this: Astrology, in my opinion, is a sham and a complete con. Those people writing predictions in magazines and newspapers and charging for predictions on premium phone numbers are all (in my opinion) frauds and con-artists.

Having said that, James Randi is also a con artist. That million dollar reward comes with a lot of fine print, not least of which is the condition that you have to be famous first. You won't see Randi talking about that. That million dollars is in itself a scam, albeit a scam not designed to take money off anyone. It lets people say "If that person is psychic, why don't they claim that reward?", when this isn't the case.

 

[MrGFunk]

I'm a Taurus. My ex-girlfriend put a bunch of faith in this kind of thing, but I never did. I don't act at all like a taurus, and I never will.

From the above statement - you're trying to be funny, right?
Taurus negative traits ---Stubborn - Jealous - Self-righteous - Dogmatic.

I haven't fallen far from the Virgo tree, I don't think I'm very modest though.

Positive traits---Altruistic - Perfectionist - Honest - Curious - Healer -Modest - Efficient.
Negative traits---Self-righteous - Repressed - Worrier - Critical.

 

[L.B. Jeffries]

Aries...that's kind of the standard description and I guess it's pretty accurate. They didn't get my totem animal right though. It's a bear, not a buffalo.

I mostly just think of these things the same way that I do Tarot Cards, it's just an elaborate ink blot test. Our minds assign meaning and value to the chaos. It's helpful because it leads to self-awareness.

 

[DGenius]

From the site the original poster put up:

Gemini May 22 to June 21st

Positive traits---Quick - Entertaining - Charming - Youthful - Devoted - Multi-talented.

Negative traits,---Capricious - Unpredictable - Inquisitive - Flirts,

Relationships---Gemini needs a partner who is their equal in every way, they need to feel that they are with their "Soul-Mate". Shared interests are important but Gemini also needs a lot of personal freedom. but without responsibility if possible! Gemini often have more than one partner in their lifelong quest for a Soul Mate. They make interesting parents as they are always children themselves at heart.

Career---They are natural salespeople, and are exceptionally good in business. As a rule they prefer to work with a group of other people as they are often lacking the stamina to deal with the mundane work, being primarily ideas people. Often become wealthy in later life through their own efforts.

Leisure---There is no such thing as leisure to a Gemini! they make work into play, and play work! They should make time for organised activities such as squash, tennis or power swimming.

Colour - yellow. Animal Totem - monkey. Food - Chinese.Flower - Rose. Gemstone - Sapphire. Image - Gentle.

Food--- Light "finger food," avoid large heavy meals, fresh fish, Salad, Fruit, including some exotic fruits. Needs lots of fruit juice freshly pressed to stabilise this air sign.

This is all true for me but our gemstone is emerald not sapphire. Other than those it describes me to the letter. I've always been a believer when it comes to horoscopes. I read them everyday and for the most part they are always right.

Edit: How about checking the meanings of you names too. You may get a nice surprise. My name is Darrin and I came to find out it meant great. Since then my life has been changed for the better.

 

[xitel]

I'm a Taurus. My ex-girlfriend put a bunch of faith in this kind of thing, but I never did. I don't act at all like a taurus, and I never will.

From the above statement - you're trying to be funny, right?
Taurus negative traits ---Stubborn - Jealous - Self-righteous - Dogmatic.

I haven't fallen far from the Virgo tree, I don't think I'm very modest though.

Positive traits---Altruistic - Perfectionist - Honest - Curious - Healer -Modest - Efficient.
Negative traits---Self-righteous - Repressed - Worrier - Critical.

I may be stubborn, but I'm not jealous, self-righteous, or dogmatic.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

My post

You are aware that there isn't just one kind of astrology right? Sidereal astrology for example moves it's signs and houses to align with the current positions of constellations in the sky. Derivations of sidereal astrology also use Ophiuchus, the thirteenth sign. Almost all western astrologers use the tropical zodiac with equal angle houses (the kind of astrology you're most likely use to) but astrological systems exist that incorporate almost anything you could want. Different systems are better for divining different things; they all have their various uses.

As far as I can tell, your complaint is less with astrology and more that astrology has not presented a united front.

actually a lot of the current astrology is based on a static map of the planets, depending on who you go to my planets go between being mostly one sign (my birth sign) or mostly the sign after my birth sign and i think i've seen one that's all over the map

i do believe it was Ptolomey that did it originally and what is the most popular version

No my complaint aout astrology is that it is not based on science. It always falls to the ground when tested via scientific methods, otherwise a lot of astrologers would have claimed James Randi's one million Dollar reward.

Preface to post, read this. You have to read this. Read this paragraph before posting any responses to this: Astrology, in my opinion, is a sham and a complete con. Those people writing predictions in magazines and newspapers and charging for predictions on premium phone numbers are all (in my opinion) frauds and con-artists.

Having said that, James Randi is also a con artist. That million dollar reward comes with a lot of fine print, not least of which is the condition that you have to be famous first. You won't see Randi talking about that. That million dollars is in itself a scam, albeit a scam not designed to take money off anyone. It lets people say "If that person is psychic, why don't they claim that reward?", when this isn't the case.

actually no you don't have to be famous, he likes to offer it to famous ppl, such as Silvia Brown in very public places cause then he gets to have them say "sure i'll come" and then brag about them not showing up

there's a lot of fine print yes but the door swings both ways and it's also to make sure they have a good double blind test and conditions both sides have to meet, most don't get past this stage

as for astrology and science there was a large study done, mostly anonymous and getting stats from a census on behavior and astrological signs and funnily enough there was a lot of data that pointed that there was some truth to astrology

 

[ianuam]

It's all rubbish. There's no evidence for it whatsoever, and many 'astrologers' prey on the weak and vulnerable for financial gain. I'm surprised people actually believe they're important enough to have their lives predetermined by movements of the planets or stars.





I'm Virgo.

 

[Pseudonym2]

I love it when someone asks me to read their horoscope when I'm reading the newspaper. Science they are intentionally vague I read the wrong one and the person says, "That's just like me!" or "That just happed yesterday!"

The only horoscope I read is from the onion. "Be careful for what you wish for. You'll never get it, but it's still good advice."

 

[cuddly_tomato]

actually no you don't have to be famous, he likes to offer it to famous ppl, such as Silvia Brown in very public places cause then he gets to have them say "sure i'll come" and then brag about them not showing up

there's a lot of fine print yes but the door swings both ways and it's also to make sure they have a good double blind test and conditions both sides have to meet, most don't get past this stage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi_Educational_Foundation#The_One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge

"Since April 1, 2007 only those with an already existing media profile and the backing of a reputable academic are allowed to apply for the challenge."

Reputable academic, tied to someone with a media profile? How many have both of those?

It's rhetorical smoke and mirrors.

I am not arguing for or against psychics or astrology or anything else. I am justing saying you shouldn't use that million dollar prize as an example of why it's all fake, because the "prize" is equally fake.

 

[Evilbunny]

I am convinced that astrology is pure BS. My mother and sisters believe in it and try to convince me that it's real but I consistently shoot down their assertions with good old fashioned common sense.

 

[Gotham Soul]

Huh.

"Capricorn: Negative traits---Rigid - Materialistic - Moody - Sarcastic."

Except for moody, that's all true....

 

[qbert4ever]

*Ahem* [http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=astrology]

And I'm a Taurus.

 

[itdoesntmatter]

A quote from The Big Bang theory sums it up nicely...

Penny: Me? Okay. I?m a Sagittarius, which probably tells you way more than you need to know.

Sheldon: Yes, it tells us that you participate in the mass cultural delusion that the sun?s apparent position relative to arbitrarily defined constellations at the time of your birth somehow affects your personality.


People who claim any of this horoscope nonsense to be actual science are about as believable as those who consider intelligent design to be science also...

 

[cleverlymadeup]

actually no you don't have to be famous, he likes to offer it to famous ppl, such as Silvia Brown in very public places cause then he gets to have them say "sure i'll come" and then brag about them not showing up

there's a lot of fine print yes but the door swings both ways and it's also to make sure they have a good double blind test and conditions both sides have to meet, most don't get past this stage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi_Educational_Foundation#The_One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge

"Since April 1, 2007 only those with an already existing media profile and the backing of a reputable academic are allowed to apply for the challenge."

Reputable academic, tied to someone with a media profile? How many have both of those?

It's rhetorical smoke and mirrors.

I am not arguing for or against psychics or astrology or anything else. I am justing saying you shouldn't use that million dollar prize as an example of why it's all fake, because the "prize" is equally fake.

actually he is pulling the plug on the whole thing but also if you read why they are doing the "existing media profile" is to stop some of the freaks that show up and try and win and those that are potentially dangerous as well. also note that they changed the qualifying rules after almost 40 years of having the challenge

even James said that he does believe in the possibility of psychic powers, and so do i, but he doesn't believe those that claim to have them really do, such as Sylvia Brown or John Edwards.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

actually no you don't have to be famous, he likes to offer it to famous ppl, such as Silvia Brown in very public places cause then he gets to have them say "sure i'll come" and then brag about them not showing up

there's a lot of fine print yes but the door swings both ways and it's also to make sure they have a good double blind test and conditions both sides have to meet, most don't get past this stage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi_Educational_Foundation#The_One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge

"Since April 1, 2007 only those with an already existing media profile and the backing of a reputable academic are allowed to apply for the challenge."

Reputable academic, tied to someone with a media profile? How many have both of those?

It's rhetorical smoke and mirrors.

I am not arguing for or against psychics or astrology or anything else. I am justing saying you shouldn't use that million dollar prize as an example of why it's all fake, because the "prize" is equally fake.

actually he is pulling the plug on the whole thing but also if you read why they are doing the "existing media profile" is to stop some of the freaks that show up and try and win and those that are potentially dangerous as well. also note that they changed the qualifying rules after almost 40 years of having the challenge

even James said that he does believe in the possibility of psychic powers, and so do i, but he doesn't believe those that claim to have them really do, such as Sylvia Brown or John Edwards.

That's what he says. It's like when Uri Geller says he can't bend particular spoons because "they don't have the water". It is commonly refered to as "bullshit", and such bullshit can be identified by the application of critical examination?

What is the difference between someone famous claiming that they can read minds and someone not famous claiming it? Why does someone who is famous have a more valid claim to psychic powers than those who are not famous? It doesn't connect does it?

Believing one con-artist because he is exposing a bunch of others is a bad practice in my opinion.

 

[Xaryn Mar]

Mostly I believe him because he actually want to test it. If someone can prove they have some sort of power then fine, I'll believe them. Until then they can go and burry themselves someplace where they won't be found or heard from again.

The buzzzword here is science (or scientific). If a psychic's powers can be tested, reproduced anywhere under roughly the same conditions (or if they can that: under different conditions, we have to test the limits after all), then they speak the truth and they actually have some sort of power.

If not, see above.

It is not important whether or not they say that they can do something, scientific proof (meaning using the scientific process) must be had before there is anything to come for.

 

[rossatdi]

Very scared by this...

Virgo August 23rd to September 22nd.

Positive traits---Altruistic (yes} - Perfectionist (yes but not too much) - Honest (annoyingly so) - Curious (yes) - Healer (yes) -Modest (yes) - Efficient (BIG yes).

Negative traits---Self-righteous (oh god yes) - Repressed (yup! wish I was less)- Worrier (almost pathologically) - Critical (of you! but yes).

Relationships---They can appear cold and off hand in their personal life, and although to some extent they are detached, they are actually very sensitive and caring. They often wait until later in life before committing to a relationship, but when they do it is usually for life, they need a partner who is also detached to some degree, and who will allow them their own space They make wonderful, if offbeat parents!

Nailed it. Did really get into anything long term or meaningful until this year, I'm 23. Few short terms before but left because I wanted something serious and they weren't right for it.

Career---They make excellent doctors and teachers, also first rate personal assistants. They work well under stress provided they are not hurried. Virgo can be super critical, and truthful to an uncomfortable degree, they need employers that understand and trust them.

Yup. I work in political PR but I'm a much better doer/adviser than I am a leader. Work well with stress and responsibility.[/b]

Leisure---The outdoor life is essential to the average Virgo at some time of their life, gentle exercise regimes for example Yoga, Chi Gung, Tai Chi, will suit them better than more energetic sports. Just walking in the countryside will bring them peace and spiritual refreshment.

Jogging, but yeah. Although I do have a very aggressive side, doesn't come out in sport though.

Colour - Silver/Grey. Animal Totem - Cat. Food - Salad - Flower - Buttercup. Gemstone - Sardonyx. Image - Neat

Bang on with colour (grey) and animals. I do like fresh stuff but bit of a carnivore. Not overly neat though.

Food---Small meals taken often suit Virgo best, Salads, Cold food rather than hot, and a good variety of sweet and spicy tastes. Some Virgo's need to have a day of fasting every so often to Earth them in times of stress.

Yeah, I prefer to continually graze and I like a lot of cold food. I'm not big on sweet but I do love the spice. I do have days of temperance, I can't drink for days at a time!

 

[Anarchemitis]

Horoscopes make no sense to me. They're non-descript, which means they couldn't possibly pertain to situations in which you find yourself in. Hypothetical example: "You will have great success." One might conclude therefore it is a good idea to go gambling.

How gullible can one be?<--- This is a stupid question.

 

[Jharry5]

I'm a Gemini, and while some of the points made there are correct (sort of) there are more of them that are way out of what I am. Example; I prefer to work alone than in groups.

That said, I've never believed in that sort of thing and probably never will...