House MD should end

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moose49408

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It should have ended shortly after house turned his hiring process into a reality TV show...what was that, like three years ago now? My roommate and I used to love this show, but we just gradually lost interest as it slowly became a soap opera.
 

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Andy Shandy said:
No, it can't be cancelled for the simple reason is that then I'll only have Futurama to watch now that they cancelled Lie To Me.

Although I do agree that the past seasons were better than these newer ones, but they are by no means terrible, especially when you compare it to the rest of the stuff that's on TV nowadays.
Ohh, Lie to me is one thing that didn't need to be cancelled. Still had a lot of life in it.

OT: Yeah, it should have ended a while ago, but what you gonna do?
 

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Now that Lisa Cuddy is off the show, I can't really see them doing another season after this one. She was House's foil, and without her House is simply going to be a jerk. I think there has been character development, but you're right. Whenever a character on that show starts to change--usually for the better--something comes along and shoots that change in the head. Chase was settling down once he got married. Then, he gets divorced and now he's back to being a slut. In a recent episode we saw that he doesn't enjoy being a slut, but he's not about to change because no one's making him. Wilson was starting to get his life back together with his ex (and that other girl) and starting to grow a backbone with House because of it--"My life doesn't revolve around you"--but then his ex throws a fit and leaves, and that other girl dies. So, Wilson looses all his backbone and goes back to being a punching bag. Cutler starts to get his life and relationship straightened out, then gets a divorce, then starts having an affair with both his ex wife and a new girlfriend. He finally realizes what he's doing is wrong, and then both his girlfriend and wife are pregnant. Oops. At least he's still trying to shape up, but things keep going against him. Foreman always seems to make a little progress controlling his temper and branching out on his own, but something always comes along that cuts that right out of him. House was finally starting to mature when he was dating Cuddy, then she broke up with him for the exact reasons that he warned her about and she had said, "I don't care about that stuff." *****. And now, all of House's character development has gone out the window, as shown in the season finale.
The only person that seems to have changed is 13, and I think that's because no one can magically make what's causing her to change--her death sentence--go away. If I've learned one thing from this show, it's that relationships are healthy, but not meant to last. It's rather depressing actually.

It can't end now though because that was a major season finale cliff hanger. I want to see how the writers get themselves out of the corner they've painted themselves into with this one.
 

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Arkenangel said:
I stopped watching House halfway through season 4 and really just wanted it to end there, the fact that the writers completely wussed out of the BIG decision made at the end of season 3 (won't say for spoilers) said more than enough to me.

In retrospect, I'm glad I copped out before the show took a REAL turn for the worse...
It honestly has gotten significantly better again. It can never really be as good as when you were first getting a feel for the characters and such, but I think the writers have largely figured out that what they were doing was ill-suited to the show. I'm holding out hope that the next season continues the trend.
 

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Arkvoodle said:
The character of House crossed the line from "quaint asshole" to "sociopath" a LONG time ago.
Seeing as how the character is based on Sherlock Holmes, that's a GOOD thing. He isn't supposed to just be a quaint asshole.
 

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Mikeyfell said:
House needs to end, but they need to do it right, maybe it should end on a case that actually is Lupus.
Clearly you don't watch enough House, or you'd know they did a Lupus episode back Season 4.

I felt like the show was "jumping the shark" a little in the latest season, with House performing surgery on himself in the bath-tub to avoid his stupidity being discovered, however I still love him as a character and will tolerate the silliness for a while longer.
 

varulfic

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I stopped watching a few seasons back when I realized the show was just going in circles. Lack of progress just kills any enthusiasm I have for a show.
 

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funguy2121 said:
I don't understand complaining about a show you don't like. Why not complain that Family Guy should end since it hasn't been great in over 3 years? That would make more sense to me.
What?

"Don't complain about a show you don't like, complain about a show I don't like."
 

Kair

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saruman31 said:
Kair said:
The want for profit kills artistry.
That desire also creates it.

I do think that the next season will be the last.
You are completely wrong that desire for profit creates artistry. You must not confuse artists with those who distribute their products.

Greed actually makes you worse at creative tasks. Look at this study by RSA.

 

saruman31

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Kair said:
saruman31 said:
Kair said:
The want for profit kills artistry.
That desire also creates it.

I do think that the next season will be the last.
You are completely wrong that desire for profit creates artistry. You must not confuse artists with those who distribute their products.

Greed actually makes you worse at creative tasks. Look at this study by RSA.

Nice video. The thing is that in this case it doesen`t apply as without a desire to make a long running show that will produce profit, House MD would have never have been created. The structure of the show is not all that artsy; there are many other shows with medicine as their main theme and they know it sells.
 

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...what I'm hearing from a lot of people - including the OP - amounts to, "Who cares if it has tons of fans who enjoy it! I don't like it; here's my tiny, unartful critique of it, my opinion should win out over the enjoyment and preferences of others."

...which is pure pompousness. Should my disdain for cookie-cutter Hollywood films trump the desire of many to see summer action blockbusters? Should my preference for Bergman mean that the public is forced to watch The Seventh Seal instead of whatever they might collectively choose?

Whatever, man. Go watch something else instead of House. Better yet, turn off the tube and...I dunno. Play video games. Take a friend out to eat. Read a book. Study. Learn to paint. Heck, go to film school and make a better show yourself.
 

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I haven't watched it in years, and totally forgot about it.

Shit I thought it ended a while ago...
 

Kair

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saruman31 said:
Kair said:
saruman31 said:
Kair said:
The want for profit kills artistry.
That desire also creates it.

I do think that the next season will be the last.
You are completely wrong that desire for profit creates artistry. You must not confuse artists with those who distribute their products.

Greed actually makes you worse at creative tasks. Look at this study by RSA.

Nice video. The thing is that in this case it doesen`t apply as without a desire to make a long running show that will produce profit, House MD would have never have been created. The structure of the show is not all that artsy; there are many other shows with medicine as their main theme and they know it sells.
Artistry does not implicate 'artsy'.

I clearly stated the difference between the distribution of artistry (not art, because the word art has connotations that are inappropriate here) and the artistry itself. The artistry begins unconnected to greed (greed is handled by the distributors), but is involved in it as time passes.

An artisan can make something good and not profit from it, but if a swine gives the artisan money for it and then tells the artisan to make more so the artisan and the swine can make more money, a careless artisan will eventually milk the cow dry. This is how you kill artistry.

The artisans who make House would not continue a show that would sour if it was not for the desire of the money provided by the distributors. This souring of artistry has been demonstrated so many times through modern history, you would be a fool to object to it.

This is entirely disconnected from the discussion of whether House MD has soured or not.
 

saruman31

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Kair said:
saruman31 said:
Kair said:
saruman31 said:
Kair said:
The want for profit kills artistry.
That desire also creates it.

I do think that the next season will be the last.
You are completely wrong that desire for profit creates artistry. You must not confuse artists with those who distribute their products.

Greed actually makes you worse at creative tasks. Look at this study by RSA.

Nice video. The thing is that in this case it doesen`t apply as without a desire to make a long running show that will produce profit, House MD would have never have been created. The structure of the show is not all that artsy; there are many other shows with medicine as their main theme and they know it sells.
Artistry does not implicate 'artsy'.

I clearly stated the difference between the distribution of artistry (not art, because the word art has connotations that are inappropriate here) and the artistry itself. The artistry begins unconnected to greed (greed is handled by the distributors), but is involved in it as time passes.

An artisan can make something good and not profit from it, but if a swine gives the artisan money for it and then tells the artisan to make more so the artisan and the swine can make more money, a careless artisan will eventually milk the cow dry. This is how you kill artistry.

The artisans who make House would not continue a show that would sour if it was not for the desire of the money provided by the distributors. This souring of artistry has been demonstrated so many times through modern history, you would be a fool to object to it.

This is entirely disconnected from the discussion of whether House MD has soured or not.

In this case art was used with the intent of making money. They hired writers to produce a long running tv show and gave them money and possibly motivated them with the promise of a big reward if the pilot episode is received well. It was always planned for the show to be long and to later not necessarily be good since they knew that by that time they would have already created a big fan base that will still continue to buy it. The original concept of House MD was greedy.
 

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Dawn Patrol said:
funguy2121 said:
I don't understand complaining about a show you don't like. Why not complain that Family Guy should end since it hasn't been great in over 3 years? That would make more sense to me.
What?

"Don't complain about a show you don't like, complain about a show I don't like."
I will take those words right back out of my mouth and hand them back to you.

To paraphrase, accurately this time, "don't complain about a show you don't like anyway (and therefore have no rational reason to watch at all); instead, complain about valid gripes you have with a show that you do like."

Please, don't make me repeat myself again. It's insulting.
 

WolfThomas

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This needs to be posted.



Now that's a profound way of looking at the issue.
 

funguy2121

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Andy Shandy said:
No, it can't be cancelled for the simple reason is that then I'll only have Futurama to watch now that they cancelled Lie To Me.

Although I do agree that the past seasons were better than these newer ones, but they are by no means terrible, especially when you compare it to the rest of the stuff that's on TV nowadays.
Argh, nowadays? Nowadays. Seriously?

Do you miss the days before Adult Swim, before Battlestar Galactica, Heroes and Lost? Before Black Books, Community, It's Always Sunny (Hell, before FX), The Office, and Arrested Development? Do you pine for the days when sitcoms weren't allowed to even hint about masturbation? There's a metric shit-ton of godawful stuff on TV, more so than ever before, yes, but that's only because there's a metric shit-ton more TV than ever before. There are more choices, there is more quality than ever before. You just have to find it.

Now, all we have to do is pass a bill stating that good cable networks like Animal Planet and Discovery and History can't fill up their roster with bullshit reality shows until they are no longer relevant, and we'll be fine.