how come there's no half life clones?

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El Poncho

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legion431 said:
Because Half Life is just boring...there I said it.

I'm entitled to my opinion.
Your avatar has caused confusion! Well done good sir.

OP: Maybe you're looking at the wrong games.
 

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poiumty said:
Because Half Life 2 didn't innovate anything
The gravity gun?
The concept of the Gravity Gun had been done before, in Wild 9 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_9] for instance.

Half Life 2 put it into the Source Engine with physics and whatnot, but it wasn't a new idea and it wasn't new to gaming either.
 

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legion431 said:
Because Half Life is just boring...there I said it.

I'm entitled to my opinion.
Gman is watching me.

On topic.But I wouldn't use the term 'clones.' unless it was 'Gorden freement shaving the world by beating the combar and suceeding in winning the misson.' That aside.

You can argue that most FPS's are very similar in essence because the biggest part of it (The FPS point) is active in all games of that genre. How like most football games are about making people play football.

Amnestic said:
poiumty said:
Because Half Life 2 didn't innovate anything
The gravity gun?
The concept of the Gravity Gun had been done before, in Wild 9 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_9] for instance.

Half Life 2 put it into the Source Engine with physics and whatnot, but it wasn't a new idea and it wasn't new to gaming either.
I'm just going to throw something in for comedic value.

I have. I played that before half life. - But anyway. The U-GEnix level. Listen carefully and you'll hear your sidekick call you gordon. Then later on one of the guards will call you mister freeman. (It also says freeman' on the badge.) This all happens when you disguise as a scientist. So you can be a bald Dr.Cortez with that gravity-hand thing he has.
 

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Amnestic said:
poiumty said:
Because Half Life 2 didn't innovate anything
The gravity gun?
The concept of the Gravity Gun had been done before, in Wild 9 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_9] for instance.

Half Life 2 put it into the Source Engine with physics and whatnot, but it wasn't a new idea and it wasn't new to gaming either.
yeah, and it is totally overrated, it is like a shoehorned in "look what this engine can do" weapon
 

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First of all, define "clone". I'm assuming you don't mean a game that is entirely identical to what it's copying, because I have yet to see that in any genre. If you're referring to a game that seems to borrow specific aspects from the original game, ending up with a product that may be derivative (at worst) or standing on the shoulders of giants (at best), then we're talking.

As several have mentioned already, Half Life itself is standing on the shoulders of giants here. The game doesn't feel derivative to me, but has certainly borrowed heavily from shooters before it. Namely, ID Software's Wolfenstein, Doom and Quake series. These games so heavily cemented what an FPS is supposed to do that it's hard to avoid stealing from them.

As to games that are "cloning" Half Life? Look no further than F.E.A.R. While a very enjoyable game to me, that game has borrowed heavily from various sources. From the slo-mo effect (Max Payne) to the splicing of furious shooters and horror ideas (DOOM), F.E.A.R. is certainly cherry picking from Half-Life 2, as well. Level design, the general onslaught of faceless corporate soldiers, and the feel I get from the well-designed AI all point to inspiration from Half-Life 2.
 

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legion431 said:
Because Half Life is just boring...there I said it.

I'm entitled to my opinion.
Not when it comes to HALF LIFE!

I'm surprised you haven't been kicked in the nuts yet for that.

I kid I kid, I've only played Half Life 2, and I suppose a couple of reasons I didn't enjoy it too much is because I only got around to playing it late last year and that it has been rather overhyped. But I suppose that the would of been justified back in 2004 when it came out.
 

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tghm1801 said:
FireballKatomi said:
At least your default (albeit funny) isn't from Half Life.
Sorry? :S
Legion431 said half-life is boring while having Gman as his avatar, showing a truly majestic show of hypocrisy. You agreed with him, but at least you have a neutral avatar that doesn't go against what you say.
 

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Elanos said:
Power suits. I can't say I remember anyone doing that before Half-Life. Now they're all over the place.
I am not willing to bet you have never heard of Metroid.
 

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What are you talking aboot? There are tons of games aboot power-armored non-characters fighting generically evil aliens with generic weapons.
 

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MichiganMuscle77 said:
Ldude893 said:
LWS666 said:
so, why are there so many GTA/Halo clones but no half life 2 clones?
Because Half Life 2 didn't innovate anything, it pushed existing game features to the limit and put them to the best use. Plus, it took years to make Half Life 2, any game studio seeking a quick buck by making a clone of an existing game know better than to take that long.
Tell me, what exactly did Halo innovate?
Regenerating health, not being able to carry half an arsenal requiring planning for situations, having grenades and melee attacks be just a button press instead of having to equip a different weapon, dual wielding, easy to control vehicles in FPSes, stop me any time.
 

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Elanos said:
Power suits. I can't say I remember anyone doing that before Half-Life. Now they're all over the place.
Didn't Chex Quest have them?
 

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tghm1801 said:
Fusionxl said:
tghm1801 said:
FireballKatomi said:
At least your default (albeit funny) isn't from Half Life.
Sorry? :S
Legion431 said half-life is boring while having Gman as his avatar, showing a truly majestic show of hypocrisy. You agreed with him, but at least you have a neutral avatar that doesn't go against what you say.
OH... I get it. :)
Though you do get points for two Doctors in bed =P