How do you feel about circumcision?

[Smooth Operator]

Foreskin is useless. It serves no practical purpose - it has no effect on sexual stimulation or pleasure.

No foreskin itself has no effect, but it is directly connected to the most sensitive part of the penis and the removal procedure mutilates that area, and that would be like tampering with the clitoris.

Removal or piercing anything but the earlobe would cause permanent, awful damage to a person. It is NOT the same. It is an extreme exaggeration. None of those locations are just skin.

So tampering with anything outside the socially exceptable norm is extreme exaggeration... funny how that works isn't it.

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

You know what - never mind.

I'm out guys. I came here to stop horrible and inaccurate comparisons to rape and female genital mutliation - that's all. If you think it's the same, you're a misogynistic pig who has no concept of the kind of damage that does to a woman.

Beyond that, I don't much care. You can argue all you want - but not with me. Any replies to this thread I receive will be deleted unread.

Have yourselves a nice evening.

 

[Floppertje]

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how is an infant not affected by the experience? 1. he's missing part of his wiener 2. as an adult, I'm pretty sure he'll know someone chopped it off at some point. that would make ME feel rather violated...

also, you said circumcision doesn't matter. so why do it at all?
most of the 'medical reasons' really just revolve around hygiene which can be fixed just as well by, say... WASHING THE DAMN THING!
seriously, it's not that difficult. also, it being safer for female sex partners (which I kinda doubt) is also a non-issue since no self-respecting woman is going to have sex with a guy who doesn't keep his dong clean.
EDIT: also, ask yourself what you'd do if someone were to suggest cutting part of your penis off. I'd say circumcision isn't extinct yet because infants don't know what's going on yet and haven't learned how to throw decent punches.

 

[archaicmalevolence]

Female genital mutilation is done to remove a woman's ability to feel sexual pleasure - it isn't merely decorative. The male version would be smashing the testicles to create a eunuch.

How is slicing off part of the nerve system and exposing the rest to get numb, and doing so at an age where the child is unable to make the decision himself or defend himself? You're mutilating the child's genitalia to reduce sexual pleasure for religious reasons. There is no difference.

Male circumcision increases sexual sensation. Or so I've been told by men who've been circumcised.

Also, who said anything about religion? I'm having any male children I have circumcised for the benefit of their future sexual partners.

How would someone who is circumcised know it is sexually better, unless they actually tested it themselves. Mileage may vary from person to person, so it may for some. In my opinion unless it needs to be done i'd rather have it the choice of the person and not the parents as it isn't there body that is being operated on.
Hell i'd hate to get circumcised, it's just the thought of an operation there that's my opinion. Then there are sometimes the mental affect it may have when the child is older, them felling different to others, and even ashamed. Though i would presume this is unlikely.

 

[King of the Sandbox]

Foreskin creeps me out. I see it in the occasional porn and I'm all, "Aliens?!?!".

Also, I don't remember it being done to me as a baby, therefore, it didn't hurt. I'm all for 'em, until we get the baby communications technology purring well enough to ask them which they'd like.

 

[Tontomanzz]

I didn't use extremes, just pointing out that circumcision applied to other areas suddenly doesn't make sense.
If cutting skin off a baby is ok why then limit it to penises, if it's really ok we should do as we please.

And to what extent would you really thank your parents for piercings, the entire ear, nose, lips, nipples, clit,... where is the limit? Is there any limit?

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Foreskin is useless. It serves no practical purpose - it has no effect on sexual stimulation or pleasure
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Not at all a known fact as there's lots of different papers on the topic. There's even a foreskin restoration procedure (for various reasons). But hey, everyones a doctor around here and loves throwing around facts without even taking a second to look it up.

 

[photog212]

1. whether or not it decreases stimulation during intercourse cannot be proven. You would have to poll people pre-circumcision THEN post-circumcision to compare the difference. Since, this can't be done no conclusive result can be attained.

2. Studies have shown that circumcision can reduce infectious disease. However, this usually only applies to the third world.

3. Female circumcision is a barbaric activity usually performed on fully conscious teen girls with anything from a knife, to glass, to even a sharp rock. It usually ends in mutilation and disfigurement. (so help me God do not say male circumcision is mutilation or disfigurement, I can send you photos of what happens during female circumcision if it will make you see the difference and shut you up)

4. Circumcision is typically based upon religious or cultural tradition, if it is done by a medical professional (or trained Mohel) and the parents both agree to it, I see no problem with it.

 

[NoeL]

It's the non-consensual genital mutilation of minors for no justifiable reason. It should be just as illegal as female genital mutilation and only offered as an elective surgery for adults. I think it's disgusting, and I have the utmost contempt for people that choose to do it to their children for religious or cosmetic reasons.

 

[Shock and Awe]

Spoiler: Good Videos on the Subject

I personally find it idiotic that Circumcision; a procedure that has barely any points in either the positive or negative, to Female Genital Mutilation. I am personally circumcised and I honestly doubt any thing would be different if I weren't.

 

[Tiger Sora]

Ya this sums it up. I ain't lettin' no one chop the end of my member off. So lets get the &%@( outa here.

 

[gruggins]

what I find strange is that most of the pro circumcisum people here at the time of posting were FEMALE

another thing i find odd is that female genital mutilation is a violation of human rights while circumcision (which is effectively the same thing.) is a-okay.

 

[Kodachi]

Being of the penis-less (and female) condition, I don't know if I deserve an equal opinion on the subject. If I have sons, I don't think I'll personally have them circumsised unless their father feels strongly about it because I don't see the point. Does it honestly make a difference either way to anyone's adult life?

If by adult, you mean sex life then yea. Unfortunately many women (and men, for that matter) see it as a "deal-breaker" that can end a romantic encounter instantly. Also kudos for being one of the few posts I've seen that didn't try a start a fight.

Honestly though, maybe it's cause I'm heterosexual but I seriously don't understand why a circumcised penis is "hot" and "sexy" while an uncircumcised one is "weird" and "disgusting". Perhaps being able to witness the entire head of the penis is akin to being able to see as much of the vagina in terms of sexual stimulation, though that never really was a personal turn on either plus it doesn't explain why the vulva is still considered sexy (which I believe may be a better female counter part to the foreskin than the clitoris). I'm seriously flummoxed here =.=

Oh well, back to my single hood, forever perplexed by human relationships.

 

[King of the Sandbox]

what I find strange is that the only real pro-circumcision person here (Bara_no_Hime) is FEMALE

another thing i find odd is that female genital mutilation is a violation of human rights while circumcision (which is effectively the same thing.) is a-okay.

I'm pro-circumcision. And I've had one. So, yeah.

 

[photog212]

Its religious because it was primarily religious in nature. As I said above, this is basic history. I brought up sources, videos, and even history. Where is your evidence to back up your claims?

It actually predates most of the Abrahamic traditions but they popularized it. And it was more about being different than preventing adultery or masturbation. Kind of to prevent women from sleeping with (and bearing children of) men of a different tribe.

 

[EtherealBeaver]

Nevermind, misread the post

 

[ShindoL Shill]

i really dont mind it. it doesnt make it look too different, and if you've convinced someone to come to bed with you, do you really think theyre going to say 'i will never fuck you.' because youre uncircumcised. and you dont really run around with youre dick out.

that being said, one of my friends had to be circumcised to prevent a urinary tract infection, so theres a plus (prevention of disease).

honestly? i dont give a single fuck, and if my hypothetical future spouse wants any kids we may get to be circumcised, i'll go along with it.

 

[ZiggyE]

Circumcision? More like mutilation.

NOTE: Picture contains drawings of penises and graphs of how circumcision desensitises the penis. Some people may be offended. I won't embed it to the post and instead I'll just leave the link. View at own risk.

http://i55.tinypic.com/2uoi4o1.jpg

 

[azukar]

Oh good grief, another bloody circumcision thread.

Let's summarise the whole thing in a few neat sentences:

a) people think there are arguments on both sides.

b) people have very strong opinions on the subject, based mostly on their own circumcision circumstance.

c) people get very angsty about this topic when other people disagree with their views.

d) almost nobody is in a position to compare one with the other unless they were circumcised well after becoming sexually active.

End of thread, surely?

 

[Kodachi]

what I find strange is that the only real pro-circumcision person here (Bara_no_Hime) is FEMALE

another thing i find odd is that female genital mutilation is a violation of human rights while circumcision (which is effectively the same thing.) is a-okay.

I'm pro-circumcision. And I've had one. So, yeah.

Not pro or con, just don't see the point. Just another cosmetic procedure as far as I'm concerned. The man with a circumcision will probably look sexier by the general population than say his twin brother who wasn't, much the same way a woman with a breast augmentation would be commonly seen as sexier than her twin with say an A-cup.

(I don't need to hear your personal desires in an effort to prove me wrong, I'm just saying in general)

 

[Bobbety]

As someone who had to get this done a whole year ago (for medical reasons not cosmetic) I can say that spending a year recovering at the age of 16 is an extremely awful experience. One that I would not want my son(s) to have to go through if they encountered the same problems. If you had asked me two months ago what way I preferred to be I would have said with a foreskin, but after fully recovering I'd say I prefer being circumcised.

I feel I might be able to give some extra insight into any "arguments" here being someone who can clearly remember being uncircumcised and circumcised and also remembers the trauma of such a long shitty recovery.