How do you react to conspiracy theories?

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Wraith

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Like a large amount of people I have a Facebook account. Every now and again, a picture gets passed around usually for a laugh or asking for people to like the image so they can go to heaven or some other stuff like that. There are ones that I usually enjoy that are meant to spread proper information about the world or to tell us about new advancements in science. However, conspiracy pages/images get mixed in with some of these.


When I see stuff like this, I usually roll my eyes, do a few minutes of Google searching and debunk the conspiracy, by pasting my findings into the comments section of my friend's shared image encouraging them to stop believing everything they read/see/hear. (Snopes.com became one of my favorites sites because of this.)

However, due to recent developments with the Snowden incident, and with the scare of a new Syria War outbreak, I find people are believing more and more of the extremely idiotic conspiracies. One of which stated that the government has tiny cameras on every dollar bill. Usually stuff like that would be self evident in its bullshit, but people still freak out over it. And when you ask for citations, of course you get nothing, but a "The evidence is everywhere" line or a link to a blog. Someone on one image brought up a very important point:

"The comments are the best part of this page. Some bullshit meme of questionable validity gets posted, people with actual intellect look for a source or something credible to back it up while the tin-foil hat squad busts out shitty YouTube videos, forums, and blogs as "proof" (who also can't cite any credible source) and it all usually culminates with the admin making some condescending remark about how it's not his job to fact check everything he posts, like he's some sort of fucking Facebook Morpheus who can only show you the door.

Half of you people are the very sheep you claim to despise except that instead of the big, bad media you believe anything an idiot with a computer and MS Paint can post on the Internet. The government doesn't need fluoride in the water to make you stupid, it has Facebook."

So now my typical reaction of debunking these things and encouraging others to do their research when they come up on conspiracies like that is too much of a hassle. I now just facepalm and quietly let those people believe what they want. Though, I admit I find pleasure in them being extremely worried about what's in the water knowing that they'll still drink it no problem. Hypocrisy at its best.

So I ask you, people of the Escapist, what do you do when you are presented with conspiracies?

How do you react to people who believe them?

Do you believe any yourself?
 

Queen Michael

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I always marvel at how many people blindly buy the so-called "real story" that conspiracy sites present, without actually fact-checking the sites in any way.
 
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Ah, this brings back memories of my family telling me about new "proof" for every conspiracy theory out there. Oh, wait, that's every day.

I've learned that the best way to deal with it is to act like you believe it, but still question some of the evidence they show you. They see everyone who disagrees with them to be an idiot, so by feigning support you instantly gain credibility and intelligence in their eyes, placing you in a position where they will actually listen to what you say.

Only useful to a point, though. I managed to convince my mom that fluoride doesn't mind control people and that elected officials aren't robots that the guys in a giant underground bunker are talking through...
...but I haven't made much progress on breaking down the ideas that the government creates serial killers by hitting their brain with radiation from their phone as a way to take away our guns or that aliens created all life on Earth, and that Jesus was an alien ambassador in disguise[footnote]the best part about these is that she identifies as a Christian and doesn't own any guns[/footnote].

I really wish I could say I was joking. Oh well, at least I'll be moving out of the house next year to go to college and study chemical engineering, except the downside is that Science is actually a government plot to destroy the morals of students so that they create new chemical weapons that are used to assassinate people in the least cost-effective manner possible. Oh well.
 

MysticSlayer

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I just ignore them. Most of the time the people don't listen to reason (obviously), so I simply see no point in trying to reason with them. I have tried in the past, but it led nowhere except them thinking I was a brainwashed moron who was incapable of opening his mind to the "facts" and thinking for himself. That fact that so many conspiracy theories rely on impossible to prove/disprove "facts" only makes things worse, and the fact that there is always at least one "credible expert" (Read: pseudo intellectual nut job) who supports it with his own "facts" just makes things even harder, especially when said "credible expert" is the person you're arguing with.

Anyways, I'll just let them live. I can't imagine their existence is better than mine, and I certainly don't want to get pulled into the same anger and paranoia they are in. In the (highly unlikely) event one of them does eventually get into a position of power where they can do damage with their views, then I'm sure I can find a reason to move to Canada or Europe.
 
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Wraith said:
username sucks said:
I'm so sorry. I'm so very very sorry.
Yeah, I'm used to it by now. But it still scares me that I believed all of it up until freshman year in high school, when I got teachers who taught me the radical concept of "thinking".

Believe it or not, living with a family like that can be entertaining, even useful sometimes. One time I had a project due that I didn't have ready, so I made a new email address and sent my mom an email that said something along the lines of "Proof that the gov't. is using new brainwashing tool on our children, beginning (next day of school)", in all caps of course. Then after I got the project done, I made another fake email that said that fake email#1 was a government hoax to trick people into reducing tax dollars spent on schools. Then I forged a note for the school that said I was out of town that day.

I have way more stories like this than I like to admit.
Captcha:$1.29 Hot N Spicy McChicken. ITS A CONSPIRACY!!!! IT USED TO BE 1.00$ BUT NOW THE COMPANY IS DECIEVING US TO THINK IT WAS ALWAYS 1.29$!!! DONT FALL FOR IT!!! PRAY TO LORD JESUS AND HIS FELLOW ALIENS BY SPREADING THIS MESSAGE!!![footnote]please don't mod this for caps, I was simply spreading the word of Jesus as is expected by our society.[/footnote]
 

EeveeElectro

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Queen Michael said:
I always marvel at how many people blindly buy the so-called "real story" that conspiracy sites present, without actually fact-checking the site in any way.
Very much this, not just conspiracy theories but... anything.
The Daily Mail and other sensationalist newspapers are good examples. People will believe ANYTHING they read on bit of chain mail.

POLISH IMMIGRANTS ARE PLANNING ON STEALING OUR BABIES? WELL FUCK THEM!!!!!!!!!

They believe anything especially about other people. There was something flying around a while ago that every single immigrant is on £60k a year and there was some other conspiracy about the money I can't remember that made no sense.

OT: My responses range from:

You complete and utter fucking moron, why don't you even bother thinking before you speak?
That's pretty stupid, is there any more proof?
The sources aren't very good so I can't really believe it. You honestly believe that source is gonna be fair? ._.
That's interesting and quite cool/sucks that it happens.
Hahaha, that's awesome. I didn't even realise the genie and the Merchant have similarities.
 

Bobic

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I'm just gonna post this (the parts that actually relate to this thread would be #5 and #1)

http://www.cracked.com/article_19468_5-logical-fallacies-that-make-you-wrong-more-than-you-think_p2.html

Then I'm going to retreat back into my cave of no internet debates. Knowing that debates among humans (including myself) are inherently flawed, and will usually accomplish nothing but sour moods for all involved parties.
 

DANEgerous

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Easy two questions, why do you object to X and why is Y more plausible. Normal it is "well X is main stream and Y is horrific so Y is clearly true!"

Conspiracy seams to founded on how horrible I see something VS the percentage of how accepted it is in a percentile *5. So say you think the Sandy Hook tragedy being staged is half as bad as kids dyeing but 95% see the given story as true. The given story is a base of 1 take that halve it as it is only half as bad then take out the percent that do not so 5% of .5 get .475 multiply by 5 get 2.375 the amount of time your bullshit is more valid than truth or to say it is at least twice as likely that you are correct.
 

Soundwave

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Back when I still used facebook and I'd see these I'd just link the relevant snopes article in the comments.
 

MeChaNiZ3D

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There are three kinds of conspiracies: Blatantly ridiculous ones, decent ones pertaining to something I know something about, and decent ones pertaining to something I know nothing about. Instant dismissal, instant dismissal or confirmation, and indifference respectively.
 

Basement Cat

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I usually just roll my eyes, but then I'm given to applying Occam's Razor.

For Example: The 9/11 attacks:

1) Terrorists did it.

2) It was a conspiracy by Bush to start wars in the middle east (and required knowing support of 10's of thousands of Americans (military included) etc, etc...)

3) The Jews did it! [small](Seriously, is there any crime or problem in general that the Jews HAVEN'T been accused of being behind over the last 2000 years?)[/small]

Personal conclusion---Terrorists did it.

*rolls eyes*
 

kurokotetsu

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I go between just sighing and moving on and tenaciously trying to disprove them. Try ot avoid it but i some times is too much for me. Hate conspiracy theories, it is in my genes (well, education, my father had and anti.conspiracy site and forum for several years).
 

Saltyk

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The minute you can describe it as a "conspiracy theory" it instantly loses credibility. 99.999999999999% of those are complete bunk. Oh, sure, you might get the occasional real conspiracy, like the Bay of Pigs or Russian spies reporting on U.S. tabloid news for some reason. But those are few and far between. And also generally targeted at a nation. Not Philip and Sandra.

Basically, if you think there's a conspiracy, rest assured, there isn't.

Not that I think that excuses things like what the NSA was doing. Even if I don't think they were targeting me or anyone else, I don't think it was excusable.
 

Gennadios

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Ignore or defriend.

If it's something particularly plausible or I like the person posting that shit I do my research and politely point it out.

Still, there's a reason I only have 30 friends on facebook.
 

ERaptor

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Ranges from rolling Eyes, to almost dying from hysterical laughter, ending in calling Mr. Conspiracy a giant retard. Seriously, i especially like the ones that use phrases like "Well, if you prefer to stay blind." "Do you elieve EVERYTHING the Goverment tells you?". Its double the fun since i live in Switzerland, and the stuff some people over here come up with are just beyond comparison. Appearantly we have Nuclear Weaponry in our Mountain Fortresses. And our Neutral-stance is just a distraction from the soon to be started world-conquering.

If you will excuse me, i will have to saddle a cow in preparation of our glorious charge into the first European Countries.
 

Something Amyss

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Queen Michael said:
I always marvel at how many people blindly buy the so-called "real story" that conspiracy sites present, without actually fact-checking the sites in any way.
Most people aren't taught how to research. Since conspiracy sites tend to have their own internal logic, like a fantasy/sci-fi story, it's very easy to get lost in them if you don't know how to parse reliable data from unreliable data.

I fear these skills are no longer taught in school, either.

I try and convince people sometimes, but it's difficult even with real evidence.