how do you view Iranians?

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AstylahAthrys

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The people themselves? I see them as people, human beings who are unique in their own way, just like every culture or country. The government? Not so fond of them, but that's for the R&P forum, and it's hardly fair to judge the people of a country by their government.
 

Eleuthera

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I've met several people of Iranian/Persian descent, but I don't think I've ever met any Iranians.

The ones of Persian descent were a mixed bag, just like normal people [footnote]I know they're normal people I'm making a joke[/footnote], at least one of them was very annoying and at least one was a great person to get to know.
 

Bestival

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Depends on who we're talking about... The Iranians at work? Super funny, friendly dudes and pretty much all of them harder workers than myself.

That president dude? Bit of a weirdo, we'd probably wouldn't get along too well.


All the other ones? Will depend on the individual, but I would think most of them are alright. This is really too broad for me to comment on properly. Now if you're asking what I think of Iran as a country, going by what the news and media is showing me, I would have to say that I am slightly worried about how obsessed their government seems to be with getting nuclear weapons.
I also have this image of it being pretty much nothing but desert, and for that reason I wouldn't want to visit. I hate heat and stuff. But if I did visit it would probably go a bit like the Top Gear special, and I would spend the first day or two worried about extremists getting me. But then when all you meet is nice people that fear would go away, I hope.
(Yes I know Top Gear was in Iraq, and that Iraq and Iran aren't the same place.)
 

iblis666

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i have no problem with them though sadly their government seems about as crazy as mine in the US
 

Therumancer

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"A person is smart, a people are dumb" that's pretty much my thought on Iranians and a lot of cultures. On an individual level where you can take people one at a time my opinions are mixed as you'd expect. As a culture, like most middle eastern countries en-masse Iran is full of xenophobes intent on destroying/conquering/converting pretty much everyone not them. When they aren't going off on Isreal and the US, they are going off on other Muslims.

Even on an individual level my attitudes tend to be fairly negative, as they tend to be about those who are noticibly Islamic or especially of direct middle eastern descent and having immigrated to the US within a few generations. Exceptions always exist, but understand that when I worked casino security I was effectively involved in suerveillance and investigations, when 9/11 happened there was a shift from our focus on Asian gangs to Middle Eastern terrorists, and I even had to take classes and training for it, got my little anti-terrorism expert certificate and everything. Like most things involving the casino it's a giant dog and pony show, we didn't catch many terrorists but in following these people around and keeping an eye on them when they didn't think they were being watched the bottom line generally comes down to them being some of the worst kinds of people. See unless we caught someone actively doing something violent to the casino or planning terrorist attacks or whatever it's a non-factor, but when your watching guys whoop and cheer over the deaths of Americans and talking the kind of smack these guys were, it generally shows why the terrorists act, while it might not be public when people are watching, the bottom line is the majority of them support this crap even if they aren't actively involved in it. Of course there is no crime in any of that, free speech and all of that, but like many such observations it has tainted my perspective.

When you've done a decade or so of the kind of work I did (which was mostly boring where nothing happened, casino security is mostly a joke) it gives you a perspective on things that a normal person doesn't have, simply because your seeing what people are really like when they don't think anyone is around. Where I worked it was on an Indian Reservation, and there was no assumpsion of privacy as they post right as you come in that your potentially under suerveillance as soon as you enter the parking lot. There isn't any of this warrent for wiretapping garbage, and you have multiple departments which all overlap to some extent (despite intent) security (me), actual suerviellance (focused on the gaming floor though), and the investigation (arguably passes the buck to other departments), then you've got tribal gaming commission, state gaming comission, liquor agents, tribal police (sometimes), on-site state police, and god knows who else and despite everyone watching each other as much as anything else and trying to remain seperate everyone talks and gets involved in a incestuous gang-bang that paints some pretty interesting pictures if you pay attention since you've pretty much got a bunch of people with lowered inhibations combined with suerveillance powers that would have made Hoover wet himself in envy.

This is one of the reasons why I tend to be so anti-politically correct. I long ago came to the assumpsion that unless your in a position to actually gather and assimilate this kind of information you can't make any statements about reality, what differant groups do, what they think as a whole, and what kinds of policies need to be set.

Back before I took criminal justice (with an eye towards forensics), and long before financial realities forced me to stop school, and medical realities forced me to "retire" on social security, they used to refer to the changes in people who do this kind of thing as putting on a pair of "colored glasses" you can't ever take off. Seeing the things ordinary people don't makes you forever differant, and better informed, than they ever will be, and you can't ever stop seeing things this way even if you want to... and oddly they aren't thankful for it, since society, especially US society bases desicians on large-scale ignorance.

It's important to understand there are always exceptions, but the general rule is typically not very nice, and at the end of the day you begin to realize most people really don't even know the people they THINK they know all that well.

I'm not going to argue or discuss this, and I've said it before, but basically... my opinion of Iranians as a whole is not positive, same for most Middle Easterners and Islamics. There ARE exception though of course. People won't agree with my explanation for my general sentiments, but then again you don't have to, as it's mine.
 

Commissar Sae

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It's a bit of a mixed bag for me. I've met some fantastic people from Iran, but I also met some guys who are a tad stuck up and downright backwards in their treatment of women. It depends on the individual so honestly I am pretty neutral towards Iranians as a whole, same point of view I have for every other nationality.
 

GroovySpecs

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I think Iranians are pretty much like everyone else. For some reason Iran seems to be one of those countries where the world assumes the attitude of the government is the attitude of the entire population. For instance the Japanese goverment effectivley turns a blind eye to whaling but no one ever suggests that the Japanese as a people are universally pro-whaling. Unfortunatley for Iranians, every time the goverment in Tehran makes an anti-western statement we all seem to loose this perspective and people start talking about the "attitude of Iranians" as if everyone in Iran is liked into a hive mind or something!
 

waj9876

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That they're...people.

Every nationality has it's crazies. And we shouldn't view people of a certain nationality any differently because of it.

That said, you shouldn't excuse someone from doing something because of their nationality either. If someone does something bad, it doesn't matter what their nationality is. People around the area I live don't want to call people out on the bad things they do if they are a different race, for fear of being called racist.
 
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Depends on if they live in Iran or not.

If they don't, I view them as citizens of whatever country they live in.

If they do, I view as one small part of the psychotic clusterfuck that is the Middle East.
 

direkiller

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The government pulls some stupid stunts(faking a fighter jets ftw)
I don't judge people till i meet them though
 

cikame

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The only impression of foreign people i have is trying to help customers at work, trying to piece together their sometimes basic english, frantically trying to be helpful because i don't want people to think ill of me and that's not really a healthy environment for learning about people. I often come away with the impressions that Asian's want something very specific and quick, Middle Eastern people don't mind compromise but don't like smiling, American's are very quick to judge and African people are relaxed and happy. British people can range from awkwardly posh to hideously stupid.

Keep in mind this is my work environment... like i said, not healthy.
 

Stryc9

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In spite of my government and media trying to shove it down my throat that all Iranians are evil and out destroy western civilization with nuclear arms I see the vast majority of Iranians as people just trying to live their day to day lives like anyone else. I don't personally know any Iranians so I can't really judge them on any level other than that. Kind of like people here in America I'm sure there a few batshit crazy ones but they are just an extremely loud minority that gives everyone else a bad rap and I'm sure that give or take a few minor cultural differences I'd get along with most of the population.
 

Esotera

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Generally pretty sophisticated, intelligent, and completely normal (the only ones I've met have been at university). It's a shame about the government as otherwise it'd be a great country..
 

PeterMerkin69

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I'd like to get her stoned, if you know what I mean.

Iran's a joke. Have you seen their drone? I still respect them more than their mud-worshipping cousins in nearby states like Afghanistan. If we're planning on invading at some point we probably should have kept Saddam around, he may have been a useful resource, if only to supply disposable bodies for a ground operation. They easily repelled the Iraqis in the Persian-Gulf War but with America supplying arms, training and other services I think the outcome would be different. I'm not sure but I have a feeling that occupation by another Muslim nation, regardless of flavour, would be less offensive than a wholly Western one. That's all national policy. Personally I don't have anything against them. Secretly, I'm a little disappointed whenever their nuclear program faces setbacks. I don't respect the international community's authority to dictate what's in their arsenal. Iran has as much a right to threaten its neighbours with WMDs as anyone else.
 

Mr F.

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What do I think? My view is the same as my view towards America.

Love the people, HATE the politics/International relations. Iran gets the bomb, several hundred thousand people die. Wont stop them from trying. I do not like any extreme forms of any religion. Cause yeah. It always ends badly. I aint as aggressive as some appear to be (Mud worshippping cousins? REALLY?, what the fuck PeterMerkin 69) but honestly Iran scares me.

Iranians though, nothing wrong there.

Hell, most of the current issue in Iran is as a direct result of American foreign policy anyway.
 

Dead Seerius

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Well the Iranians I know that live in my own country are nice guys so I don't view them any differently than any other person.

As for people actually living in Iran, all I can think of at the moment is people getting terrorized by mutant rats in the capital. Only my mind has embellished it into people running in fear from Ratzillas or something.

Probably not a common answer to this question.
 

Robot Number V

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OK, I'm gonna be completely honest. I do have a kind of mental image of what I think Iran is like based on what little I know about it, but I also understand the fact that since I know so little about Iran, this mental picture is largely meaningless. So I don't "view Iranians" in any particular way. At least, not until I've met one. Then I'll view that particular person in a certain way. I will never be able to pass some kind of judgement over all Iranians,(because, you know, there's a lot of them) unless it's something like "They live in Iran".

This is a very silly thread.