How does the Thief series and Half-Life 2 hold up?

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erbkaiser

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Both second games are still good and fun to play.
Both first games have not aged well, but by using mods/graphics updates (ENB series) or remakes (Black Mesa) they can be really enjoyable.

Sadly neither series has a real third part.
 

DoPo

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JadeWah said:
If you're considering getting the Orange box, I'd recommend getting the mod Black Mesa. It's basically Half-Life 1 with Hl2 engine.
Worth pointing out that Black Mesa is more than HL in Source. Since there is Half-Life Source already which is a direct port - Black Mesa is HL completely rebuild in Source so it actually feels and plays as a source game, not like HL with (some) physics. Also, Black Mesa is free.

Though, they still haven't released Xen :/
 

erbkaiser

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DoPo said:
Though, they still haven't released Xen :/
Xen is planned for when they finally get out of the Greenlit stage and release the mod on Steam.
 

sanquin

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For half life 2, download the cinematic mod if you have HL2 and both episodes. It gives better graphics and some other options as well. As HL2's normal graphics look kinda dated now.

I played through HL2 and both episodes recently and I have to say, it's still just as great as it was the first time I played through it to me.
 

Chester Rabbit

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Well I will just go on the record and say that I just played a little bit of Half-Life 2 about two months ago and absolutely loved it. I have no idea why that game just felt really really good. Gameplay was solid and fun, and the world just felt so fleshed out.
I really should get back to that game (Problem is I went on a game buying binge last year so I still have at least 20 that I haven't completed yet)

So anyway I would say Half-Life 2 defiantly still holds up.
 

J.McMillen

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Remember, the Orange box is more than just Half Life 2. Along with Episodes 1 & 2 you also get a paid copy of Team Fortress 2 (with whatever bonuses you get over free players), and the original Portal.

And if you're still not sure:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/10-The-Orange-Box
 
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Thief, though not pretty, is still brilliant. It's first sequel is very similar and the gameplay is just great. They were the progenitors of the FPS (First-Person Stealther) genre and to this day go unmatched for the amazing tension and white-knuckle fear of discovery. Clinging to the nearest available shadows as a guard patrols feet or even inches from your hiding place (while muttering about some "taffer" still causes me to hold my own breath and pray to the Gods that he doesn't spot me. And those mechanist robots in 2 still creep me out.

If you enjoy stealth action, get them. I strongly suggest getting them on GoG for compatibility reasons. You may want to investigate some of the fan patches [https://www.google.com/search?q=thief+fan+patch] in case of issues.
 

kingthrall

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The Thief series is an excellent series. However I do not know about Gog or Steam but its a god damn nightmare with newer OS systems. I remember putting my cd and having to recode it through scripts, run by admin and all that other crap just to get the main screen only to crash afterwards.

I found Half life 1 to be tedious, I bought it on steam and found myself quitting later because it was way too easy, and no kill points like cod for example. If you can bear the gameplay though the story is above par.

Save your money, go buy Myth II, and Myth III. There is a free port to play Myth I on the Myth II program so you get a whole game for free. By far this game has aged as a series and still has a multiplayer community/tournaments that I am in with around 60-70+ players in it.
 

kyuzo3567

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I own the Thief collection from GOG and it runs perfectly for me on my laptop... definitely buy them from GOG instead of Steam
 

recruit00

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I got Thief on Steam but did update it to work. Like others say, get it from GOG.

However, I tried playing Thief and I just could not handle it. It aged very poorly. Graphically it is fine but the sound design is awful now. The shoes are a joke amongst players for a reason. They are too loud. To get anywhere I had to hold down the walk button despite it saying toggle. Could be because of Steam version. I don't know. As for the guards, bleh. So bad. I'll be honest. I didn't beat the first level because I raged. The mansion started out really cool with the awesome map idea where you are going off what you learned from people. However, when I started to have to deal with guards, it was awful. I was on the second floor of the mansion and was around the pool. A guard had heard me walking and I decided to sit around the corner waiting to whack him. Well, he got closer and closer and I could hear him right around the corner. I was in the "he's so close to me" mode then... "Stop right there!" He actually was behind me when it sounded like he was around the corner. Fighting is a bad option both because you are not a good fighter but also because the controls limit you too with the awful block. I basically rage quit there. I can't play a stealth game if I can't hear other people areoiund the corner. From what I heard, Thief 2 was more along the lines of fixing up the game by tossing the zombies and stufff for whatever reason they were there in the first place and I never heard anything good about Deadly Shadows. SO I gacve up on it. Kotor is taking its place in the backlog right now. Currently in the Undercity.