How Does This Make Me A Cold Person

[Supreme Unleaded]

Okay, so i was a school yesterday and we had to check up on a stock project on CNN. And one of the headline news things said "8 Soldiers Killed in Afganistan". I read the Article and I think it said they where killed by a roadside bomb.

So as I read that i said "Oh, only 8 people, thats not too bad" out loud by accident, then all of a sudden I have 3 people around me calling me a bad person, cold, hatefull, and even stupid. I don't get it, in WW11(WW2 for those who are going to call me out on it, it looks more "right" to me when its two lines rather then a 2. I guess II would work, but then it still looks like eleven. get used to it) we lost MILLIONS of people, on some days more than 100 people died each day, on Normandy it was like a thousand. So when 8, EIGHT, people die its not all that bad. Sure I would rather those people live but in the grand sceme of things 8 people isnt bad.

It also said the 58 people died this month of October, making it the worst month this year (i think). More people died in one day, ONE DAY than this whole month in other wars, I don't see how its that bad. And I explained all this to the people that where yelling at me and that still makes me a cold person? I don't get it.

Also later on in the day the topic of abortion came up (you can guess where this goes). So someone said that it should be illegal since your killing someone. I said "I don't really support abortion but i could understand why someone would do it, its a choice that why it shouldnt be strictly illegal". Now i get yelled at again for being a cold person.

The thing is, what if your child would suffer all their life, its like tourturing them. Do I support abortion, no not really but as i said, its a choice, a drastic choice none the less but still it doesnt have to be done.

I would like to say please dont start a flame war over the abortion thing, it was more to get a point across not to start flaming.

But the real question here is, Am I a cold person? are you a cold person? or are all these people just being held back by reality by their over protetive parents and wont know what hit them when they go out in the real world or say get put in one of these situations. (AKA need to do an abortion or get drafted.)

 

[Jaranja]

Not for your comment but people dying is pretty bad nonetheless. Even if it's for a fucking stupid reason like fighting in Afghanistan.

 

[-Orgasmatron-]

Because you don't own a jacket?

Just read your post, and yea, you're a prick. I agree with you on the abortion thing, it's the soldier thing.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Any death is a bad thing. To say "oh well it's not bad" just because a low number of people died is....well, cold.

 

[Mr. Grey]

World War Eleven!? We went through that many world wars?! Wow, I need to stop taking power naps...

Anyways, you're not a cold person. You're dealing with cold blooded idiots - I think.

Eight really isn't that bad of a number, but it does add up and that is bad. While I understand your point I also understand that it really isn't good to think any number of people dying isn't that bad. But hey, I'm not going to go out of my way to yell at you for it as I think you understand and believe what I'm going on about.

 

[SnootyEnglishman]

People are too oversensitive nowadays about what is politically correct to say, do or think and it all really comes down to beliefs and opinions...so really the only reason they yell at you is because your voicing an opinion that is in contrast to theirs and they can't handle it.

 

[Worgen]

ehh, I would say not really, I mean if they really were opposed to the deaths then they would be anti-war and till we have fewer then 6 billion people I dont see a few dead as that much of a bad thing since we are already reaching critical population mass

 

[Swaki]

yes your a cold person, but so i everyone else, and those who isn't are oversensitive pricks.

i don't feel anything when i read about people dieing, except that it would have been better if they didn't of cause.

 

[Susano]

Because you don't own a jacket?

Just read your post, and yea, you're a prick. I agree with you on the abortion thing, it's the soldier thing.

Why should he care about them? To him, they are insignificant. Numbers, statistics. Yes they may have had individual lives, but why should he care about that? He doesn't know them and they aren't close to him. Really, these people are hypocrites for not crying themselves to sleep every night about the amount of people/children dying around the world every day, if they make that much fuss about 8 people.
And I'm not even mentioning the fact that these people knew the risks of the job they took.
Oh wait, I just mentioned it now...

I feel i'm being very black and white about this, but maybe thats just because i'm tired.
Or maybe i'm more of an asshole at night.

 

[Enzeru92]

i say people just have to think about the situation then say something
on another note i don't think your a cold person just a rational thinker

 

[BeeRye]

In regard to the soldier thing, it doesn't really matter how many died on what day way back when, 8 died today, there is no point comparing it to World War II or Vietnam or such - because it isn't. That said, I don't particularly think it's cold.

As for the abortion thing, there is almost no point arguing either case with someone who opposes your view. Abortion is one of those things that people are absolutely fanatical in their beliefs about, your chances of changing their opinions are between zero and none.

 

[-Orgasmatron-]

Because you don't own a jacket?

Just read your post, and yea, you're a prick. I agree with you on the abortion thing, it's the soldier thing.

Why should he care about them? To him, they are insignificant. Numbers, statistics. Yes they may have had individual lives, but why should he care about that? He doesn't know them and they aren't close to him. Really, these people are hypocrites for not crying themselves to sleep every night about the amount of people/children dying around the world every day, if they make that much fuss about 8 people.
And I'm not even mentioning the fact that these people knew the risks of the job they took.
Oh wait, I just mentioned it now...

I feel i'm being very black and white about this, but maybe thats just because i'm tired.
Or maybe i'm more of an asshole at night.

Just numbers to some, but think, each of them had a mother, hopes, dreams, a life. I ain't saying he should go do a memorial service for them, but if you can't see why innocent people dieing is bad, go get yourself checked for aspergers.

 

[Susano]

Because you don't own a jacket?

Just read your post, and yea, you're a prick. I agree with you on the abortion thing, it's the soldier thing.

Why should he care about them? To him, they are insignificant. Numbers, statistics. Yes they may have had individual lives, but why should he care about that? He doesn't know them and they aren't close to him. Really, these people are hypocrites for not crying themselves to sleep every night about the amount of people/children dying around the world every day, if they make that much fuss about 8 people.
And I'm not even mentioning the fact that these people knew the risks of the job they took.
Oh wait, I just mentioned it now...

I feel i'm being very black and white about this, but maybe thats just because i'm tired.
Or maybe i'm more of an asshole at night.

Just numbers to some, but think, each of them had a mother, hopes, dreams, a life. I ain't saying he should go do a memorial service for them, but if you can't see why innocent people dieing is bad, go get yourself checked for aspergers.

I can see perfectly why people dying is a bad thing, but for something to be bad and for something to be cared about are two different things. Also, every single person that ever died has those things. To care about all of them is waaaaay too overwhelming for the mind to cope with. Well, mine at least, there may be someone out there constantly weeping about something that happens to everyone and everything. (Not death, just ending)
I'm really empted to have a go at the innocent bit, but I really don't want to start a flamewar in what could be a nice thread.

So yeah, it's bad, but if you're upset about them you have to be upset about the next guy that dies, and the next, and the next...

 

[Azraellod]

Actually, I have the same opinion in terms of both of those. I never got what the big deal about such small numbers was. Saying the soldier bit out loud was probably a mistake though, although they were just being unreasonable when it came to the abortion matter.

Then again, this comes from someone with "lacks empathy" on his school report...

 

[Danish_4116]

So as I read that i said "Oh, only 8 people, thats not too bad" out loud by accident, then all of a sudden I have 3 people around me calling me a bad person, cold, hatefull, and even stupid. I don't get it, in WW11 we lost MILLIONS of people, on some days f=more than 100 people died each day, on Normandy it was like a thousand. So when 8, EIGHT, people die its not all that bad. Sure I would rather those people live but in the grand sceme of things 8 people isnt bad.

I can't remember exactly who said it but "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is just a statistic" (one of the COD 4 Death quotes). I think that is why we take the deaths of soldiers in the Middle East harder because we can put a face, name and story behind the death. However, in WWII, while it was a senseless slaughter, we can't associate with all the deaths since there were so many.

To put this into a gamers perspective, look at the first Call of Duty games, where hundreds of soldiers die and so long as you live, the game continues. In contrast, look at the Full Spectrum Warrior games. When two soldiers go down you lose the game and have to "pull out" of the combat zone. This has to do with the fact that there is massive press coverage in today's battlefields, so if a soldier is killed, with all the medical technology available, it reflects badly on the government.

Also I think it has something to do with the fact that there was a massive sense of national pride during the '40s, so the lines at recruiting offices were massive, showing that people were eager to go to war, whereas today, people are more reluctant to go off and fight.

So in short, I don't think you were cold, but I think it was a stupid thing to say infront of everyone.

 

[-Orgasmatron-]

I can see perfectly why people dying is a bad thing, but for something to be bad and for something to be cared about are two different things. Also, every single person that ever died has those things. To care about all of them is waaaaay too overwhelming for the mind to cope with. Well, mine at least, there may be someone out there constantly weeping about something that happens to everyone and everything. (Not death, just ending)
I'm really empted to have a go at the innocent bit, but I really don't want to start a flamewar in what could be a nice thread.

So yeah, it's bad, but if you're upset about them you have to be upset about the next guy that dies, and the next, and the next...

Well like I said, I ain't saying we should all wear black armbands for each person that dies, but saying 'Is that all?' and treating them like statistics makes you sound like Stalin.

 

[Arcadia2000]

i say people just have to think about the situation then say something
on another note i don't think your a cold person just a rational thinker

That's along the lines of what I was thinking. It all depends on what perspective you were aproaching the situation from. You were comparing a death total to other death totals in other wars. You were correct; 8 isn't bad. They were mourning the loss of 8 people from a bomb (bombs being cowardly). You're not cold, unless you can't feel a sense of empathy when you think of it more like this:

Just numbers to some, but think, each of them had a mother, hopes, dreams, a life. I ain't saying he should go do a memorial service for them, but if you can't see why innocent people dieing is bad, go get yourself checked for aspergers.

If, after that, you're still a little "meh", then that makes you cold.

 

[BonsaiK]

When you become a solider, you accept the fact that there is a possibility that you may die on duty while serving your country. Everyone who died in that bomb attack made a choice to be there and knew exactly what risks were involved, they obviously weighed up the risks beforehand and decided for whatever reason "yes, I'm still going to be in the armed forces". When soldiers die in war it's not a big deal, in fact it's very much the expected state of affairs. Of course it makes some people sad but then that's how it goes in war - people die. If you don't like death, don't support war.

As for abortion, of course abortion is killing. But killing is fine. Better to die a quick death before you're born than live a soulless, loveless existence because your parents had you but didn't really want you, and therefore didn't give a shit about you and show you any love when you were growing up. I know that if I had parents who hated me and a shitty upbringing where no-one gave a fuck, I would probably wish that I was an aborted fetus too.

 

[Skuffyshootster]

It does, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, seeing as how I can't feel extreme emotions either.

 

[Sneaklemming]

I don't get it, in WW11 we lost MILLIONS of people,

Yeh WW11 was pretty bad, but not nearly as bad as WW9...

On a serious note; no it doesn't make you a cold hearted person. I study this sh*t on a regular basis, it puts things into perspective.

It just means you're more aware of the issues. And that people are over-sensitive about issue which they know almost nothing about. and furthermore that other people are all too willing to jump on the band-wagon of controversy.

So it's cool, just ignore those people.