How does Vegatarianism stop global warming?

[Dys]

Deforestation for cattle-growing space. Not good. Also, rearing an animal takes a lot of food that we could just eat ourselves.

Thats my dads reason for being a veggie.

However, applied to the whole world, it would fail.

Mass produced veggie's, on average, have a larger carbon footprint than mass produced meat. They also use more land and pesticides (which damage the environment in other ways).

As a general rule of thumb, vegitarians are often doing more damage to the environment than their meat eating counterparts.

The land, pesticides, and other chemical inputs used to mass produce veggies are used in ten fold amounts to grow feedstock to produce the same amount of food equivalent in meat.

This is why eating LESS meat, will help the environment.

That isn't how it works. Using pesticides on livestock will most likely kill them, using pesticides to grow hay or grain is inefficient and generally uncommon. Most livestock (in Australia at least) is free range, which means that it uses almost as much land as crops (still less though) but have very little processed feed. You can't justifiy vegitarinism by saying it's saving the environment, that is naive. The only sure fire way to garuntee you are not harming the environment is to not eat. Stating things like that without regard for facts or logic simply because it feels good to be a vegitarian is a bad thing, it is that kind of logic that has made the electric hybrids (like the toyota prius) so popular, and I don't think I need to point how that's horribly raping the environment.

 

[BonsaiK]

Methane from farts produced by intensively-farmed aminals actually contribute more to global warming worldwide than cars. A vegetarian who drives a Hummer actually releases less greenhouse gas than a beef-eater on a bicycle.

 

[VitalSigns]

Why do people fight so hard to believe that vegetarianism cant possibly have a positive impact on the world? No one is forcing you too give up meat. There are proven studies that show the Personal health, and environmental benefits a vegetarian/Vegan lifestyle can have, if you want to be part of that good for you, if not im not going to stone you too death.

 

[HerrBobo]

If people wanna just eat veg, cool, its a lifestyle choice, go for it. Howvere, it is un-natural, so do not preach to me about it.

 

[SamLowry]

If people wanna just eat veg, cool, its a lifestyle choice, go for it. Howvere, it is un-natural, so do not preach to me about it.

So you know what is natural?
A real "natural" life for you would be to die @ childbirth because of a pesky bacteria infection or bad hygiene later on or no medicine or a short, brutish nomad lifestyle or dying because of starvation well long before your 80th birthday. THAT would be NATURAL.

We are not living in a natural world anymore, we are living in an artificial, human-created environment, where everyone can grow old and die of "natural" causes instead of leading a hard nomad hunter-gatherer-lifestyle like the last 10,000 years before penicillin and all the other things like tap water, electricity and superior medical care were invented...

If you wanted to eat meat in a nomad's world, you had to go to great lengths or be quite rich.
Today, even the poorest jerk can just go to the supermarket, because we have a huge un-natural supply of cheaply mass-produced meat for you to swallow there.

If you think that eating something that has been pumped full of growth hormones is healthy, go ahead, yummy-yummy, fill your tummy.

After all, you are what you eat,
You are what you think,
And you are what you do.

 

[Gooble]

There'd be absolutely no need for any breeds that provide meat, so they'd all get slaughtered because they're taking up all the farmland that could be used to grow veg. Temporarily ironic I know.

Like someone was saying in another thread, if we ate polar bears they wouldn't be endangered. If we stopped eating beef cattle say then they would probably become endangered-all the meat poachers wanting to kill them for a start.

so now humanity decides which animals are "needed".I hope you realise we didn't magic up any of these animals,but only domesticated their wild ancestors.And it's not ironic it's called being a hypocrite.you either protect ALL the animals or NONE of the animals.

You are aware of a little thing called 'selective breeding' don't you. You know, taking, for this example, the individuals who provide the most and best meat, breeding them with another of the same quality, coming up with an individual of even better quality etc. That's why you have cows specifically bred for dairy, and others specifically bred to be slaughtered. So yes, we did effectively create a hell of a lot of the species of cattle and other livestock we have today.

And it is not hypocritical to recognise that fact that if this did actually happen, which it never will, then considering the fact that it is protecting the planet then killing off an entire single generation of any livestock bred for slaughter is the most effective method. If doing that to save the entire rest of the planet and it's animals then yeah, that's a worthwhile sacrifice.

And to be honest, as intelligent beings we tend to recognise which of the rest of the animal kingdom are more intelligent than the rest. Hence why we wouldn't have any qualms about killing insects, and yet abhor cats and dogs being killed. So yes, we do tend to decide which animals are more needed than others.

 

[vampirekid.13]

Just saw 2(2!) commercials that implied that eating meat was causing Global Warming(which will trigger the next ice age btw).I've heard all the reasons for this (ie:deforestation,methane gasses,etc) but I don't understand how if I stop eating meat this will help.I mean all those animals and grazing land won't disappear magically and they'll just continue to breed and increase their numbers contributing more gasses to the atmosphere.Someone want to field this?What happens to all the animals if everyone on Earth stopped eating meat right now?What's the plan activists?

we're in an ice age right now...we're just slowly coming out of it tbh.

if you research a bit you can find the source, im too lazy, its a youtube video.

 

[Alleged_Alec]

Okay, I have no idea if this has been explained yet, so I'm just going to do it.

Yes, it is probably true that you can at least a good part of the global warming if you stop eating meat. This is because of how the food chain works. In each step of the food chain, about 90% of the energy is lost (though the percentage is a bit lower when eating meat). So for meat to give you the same energy that a random wheat or vegetable will, a lot more resources have to be used.

 

[Nerotharis]

I dunno something about farting.

 

[GrinningManiac]

Hmmm...I can KINDA see the argument:

Deforestation to make way for cattle (example)
Cattle take up resources
Cattle fart TONS of methane into the atmosphere

...even so, Vegatarianism won't solve the problem, but a lack of MaccyD's will

 

[JayTee]

vegetarians are probly filled with self-doubt for what they are and figure if they can make the rest of the world do what they do then they wont doubt themselves anymore.
or, more likely, they are idiots

As a proud vegitarian, I've considered your arguement and have concluded that it is you who's the idiot basing beliefs of all vegetarians on one ad. There's also no arguement in your sentence. And you're just stringing insults together in the hope of becoming a hero.

I'm not going to try and persuade people to not eat meat, because that's just stupid. I think you'll find that most people feel the same way.

Vegetarianism is like religion. Some people are radical about it and try to recruit people using propaganda, and the others sit back and say "Why is this idiot representing us?"

Those ads are the idiots of vegetarianism.
Various religious cults and branches are the idiots of religion.
You are the idiot of omnivores.

 

[jasoncyrus]

Lol, another veggie flame thread. Great. I thought we had gotten this rubbish out of our systems after the last 2 disasterous threads?

Guys, two simple answers.

If people eat meat, you can't stop them.

If people are vegetarians you can't stop them.

Attempting this makes you a complete douchebag who needs to die in a fire.

Get over yourselves and your phoney egos and go back to whining about whatever game/movie you are currently hating on. That tends to be rather more productive than this.

 

[Hainted]

But plants are living things and most vegetarians I know say they're that way because they refuse to eat living things.What's the difference?

 

[Danzaivar]

This kind of thing only works if they stop using the 'its cruel against animals' approach, because to stop cows producing methane should we stop farming them would mean they'd go extinct. Dooming a loyal species to extinction is a lot more cruel than farming the damn things.

Meat is murder, Vegitarianism is genocide. Doesn't quite have that same "We're better than you' feel that Veggies love.

 

[Booze Zombie]

Deforestation for cattle-growing space. Not good. Also, rearing an animal takes a lot of food that we could just eat ourselves.

Cattle food is not fit for human consumption, the cattle is given the low grade stuff, effectively converting low-level food into medium level food and some plant food (manure).

Anyway, farmers both meat making and crop growing use machinery and vehicles, they both produce environmental damage.

 

[Kruxxor]

Just saw 2(2!) commercials that implied that eating meat was causing Global Warming(which will trigger the next ice age btw).I've heard all the reasons for this (ie:deforestation,methane gasses,etc) but I don't understand how if I stop eating meat this will help.I mean all those animals and grazing land won't disappear magically and they'll just continue to breed and increase their numbers contributing more gasses to the atmosphere.Someone want to field this?What happens to all the animals if everyone on Earth stopped eating meat right now?What's the plan activists?

Honestly, do whatever the hell you feel like, because by the time the next ice age comes you'll be dead, will it affect you? No.

I don't see why we have to stop eating meat, since man first set foot on Earth we've eaten meat, we're born meat eaters. To change that is unnatural.

Although, different thing altogether, please correct me if i'm wrong :

Since the dawn of time there's always been a food chain, everything has always had a natural predator. But this isn't true (at least not now) for humans and as far as i'm aware it's the first time it's happened in history.

 

[Glass_House]

Do people realise that it is too late to reverse the effects of "Global Warming"? All we can do is slow it down and yes. This theoretically would slow it down. But not stop it. What's done is done, it cannot be stopped by any presently available means.

The thought of turning the world vegetarian is utterly ridiculous. There won't ever be enough support to outlaw meat. It's just a fact. If you don't want to face it fine. But it's a fact none the less.

 

[Sewblon]

Just saw 2(2!) commercials that implied that eating meat was causing Global Warming(which will trigger the next ice age btw).I've heard all the reasons for this (ie:deforestation,methane gasses,etc) but I don't understand how if I stop eating meat this will help.I mean all those animals and grazing land won't disappear magically and they'll just continue to breed and increase their numbers contributing more gasses to the atmosphere.Someone want to field this?What happens to all the animals if everyone on Earth stopped eating meat right now?What's the plan activists?

I think the idea is that if people stopped eating cows, they'd stop being bred, so they'd stop farting. It seems reasonable enough, but 1. I don't buy into man made global warming and 2. I enjoy eating animals.

This, and we can't just stop all animals from farting.

 

[Booze Zombie]

So you know what is natural?
A real "natural" life for you would be to die @ childbirth because of a pesky bacteria infection or bad hygiene later on or no medicine or a short, brutish nomad lifestyle or dying because of starvation well long before your 80th birthday. THAT would be NATURAL.

We are not living in a natural world anymore, we are living in an artificial, human-created environment, where everyone can grow old and die of "natural" causes instead of leading a hard nomad hunter-gatherer-lifestyle like the last 10,000 years before penicillin and all the other things like tap water, electricity and superior medical care were invented...

We are products of nature, our actions are products of us, thus of nature.
We evolved and thought just like nature intended, however, we should be smart enough to realise when we're doing wrong or not.

It should be noted that people still live out in wilds without penicillin, running water or even language in some cases, but they still exist.

Perhaps going back to nomad style living would wipe out all these stupid people that seem to be populating the world?