How is Fox News still going?

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Smithburg said:
This is something I've been wondering. Fox has been shown to lie and twist facts around repeatedly, especially with people like Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck (Even though he's gone) and so on. So how do they stay afloat casting themselves as a news source? Isn't there anything about news organizations shown to be lying about things that could end up biting them on the ass?
You know why they still in the air? They double the rating of ALL CABLE NEW NETWORK COMBINE. They are the only center right new network on the air. The other news networks are pure leftist.

I'm surprise CNN and MSNBC still on the air. They been bleeding money left and right because no one watch them. ABC, NBC, and CBS news networks are pathetic shadow of their former self. Americans are tried of the liberal crap that these so called "news network" put out.
 

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jdun said:
Fiz_The_Toaster said:
Alright, let me ask this, what would you have in place of Fox News?

I'm asking this because it's good to have a differing point of view other than something like MSNBC and CNN.

EDIT: I'm not supporting Fox News and I'm not a fan of that source, but I'm curious.
Liberals always talk about free speech and free press but when it different from theirs they want it ban.
To be fair, it's not just the liberals yelling that, it's everybody. Everyone, regardless of political stances, wants free speech but gets angry and throws a fit when opposition comes around.

The liberals saying that are the very vocal minority.
 

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Fox News stays in business because relativism ("everything is just an opinion, everyone is biased") leads to people watching television that reinforces there beliefs as if they are facts. All news networks do this "belief-reinforcement", Fox News just comes across as more ridiculous because of the particular set of beliefs they have to reinforce.
 

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Because us English need something to prove that our cousins across the pond are as stupid as we claim them to be, thus allowing us to act all superior.
 

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Eddie the head said:
People people believe it. It doesn't matter that it's false most of the time people believe it.
It's more than that. It's that Fox tells people what they're absolutely convinced that they already know. The most telling point in the 2008 Presidential campaign was towards the end, when there was a series of anti-Obama attack ads and they all ended with the same words: Just Like You Thought.

Rush Limbaugh is a master at tapping into people paranoia and getting them to point at the radio and yell 'I KNEW IT!'
 

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Pretty much every news program is as bad or worse than Fox, the only difference is that Fox has the audacity lean to the political right. Watch the documentary, "Media Malpractice." The amount of bias from all sources in the 2008 election is mind-boggling.

Also, news media - Fox included - can't actually lie, or they would have a ton of lawsuits up their ass. That's why the media invented 'spin.' Everything said is technically the truth. They just make a big deal out of everything.
 

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MAGIC snort snort

and i think people are just like

'lol look how dumb they are lets watch how stupid they get'

sadly people actually believe there spoonful of bollocks
 

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Well, I'm sure you all heard about the legal case that Fox was in a short while ago; when they sued for the right to lie (during news segments) and won. I could link you to some, but just google search "Fox sued for the right to lie" and you'll get a lot of sources.

Fun fact, the average fox news viewer is 65 years old. Make of that what you will.
 

exessmirror

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because the other part of the fox network supports them, and ppl like to have a good laugh once in a while
 

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Forlong said:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/20/jon-stewart/jon-stewart-says-those-who-watch-fox-news-are-most/
This one is slow sometimes, but based upon the video you linked to I assume your post was intended as a joke?
 

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Deathmageddon said:
Also, news media - Fox included - can't actually lie, or they would have a ton of lawsuits up their ass. That's why the media invented 'spin.' Everything said is technically the truth. They just make a big deal out of everything.
Not true.

http://www.philly2philly.com/politics_community/politics_community_articles/2009/6/29/4854/fox_news_wins_lawsuit_misinform_public

"Here?s the rundown: On August 18, 2000, journalist Jane Akre won $425,000 in a court ruling where she charged she was pressured by Fox News management and lawyers to air what she knew and documented to be false information.

In February 2003, Fox appealed the decision and an appellate court and had it overturned. Fox lawyers argued it was their first amendment right to report false information. In a six-page written decision, the Court of Appeals decided the FCC?s position against news distortion is only a ?policy,? not a ?law, rule, or regulation.?

So, Fox and the other gladiatorical cable news channels were given the okay to legally lie right around the time of the Iraq War?s birth ? when media lies coincidentally hit a peak in both frequency and severity."


So they sued for and won the right to lie and call it news. The other stations are just as bad since this is a legal precedent.

ALL NEWS AGENCIES CAN, WILL, AND DO LIE.
 

Strazdas

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Fox news is the most watched tv network in US. thats probably why they dont shut down.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Smithburg said:
Me personally I generally watch stuff like BBC because they dont pick a side.
LAUGH

OUT

LOUD

WUT???????????????????????????????

OT: They are popular because they reinforce stupid views. Views people hold because they watch Fox News. A never ending circle.
What? They just report stuff, they don't give you an opinion on it, at least not of what I've seen
 

Smithburg

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farson135 said:
OP- you realize that all news organizations lie and mislead. BBC does it. Der Spiegel does it. Pravda does it. CNN does it. And on. The only difference between Fox and MSNBC in terms of lying is that not as many people watch MSNBC.
I know, Im not saying that it is any different for other places, my question is, how do they not get in trouble for these things? They get called on it, but don't have to do retractions or anything like that. As a news source you'd think they would be watched more closely for errors.
 

Lazier Than Thou

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Smithburg said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Smithburg said:
Me personally I generally watch stuff like BBC because they dont pick a side.
LAUGH

OUT

LOUD

WUT???????????????????????????????

OT: They are popular because they reinforce stupid views. Views people hold because they watch Fox News. A never ending circle.
What? They just report stuff, they don't give you an opinion on it, at least not of what I've seen
That's actually the problem right there. "What I've seen."

Bias exists in what you're saying, but it exists far more in what you're not saying. What you don't say speaks just as loud as what you do say. Say, for example, if they decided to not run with a story because it wont move people enough or that it's not a big enough deal. It wont generate enough people looking at it, so it wont generate enough advertisement revenue. That's their bias, but it can exist in far more painful ways than that. Political ways, in stories they don't report for their own personal reasons.

Now, I'm not here on a crusade to fight against the BBC. I don't care about the BBC because I don't get my news from the BBC. But you have to accept that you're dealing with human beings. Human beings that have biases, beliefs, and passions. They're not perfectly without emotion, ergo you're not going to get news without emotion.

You can pretend all you want that any news outlet is without bias. But you're wrong, because you're dealing with human beings which are inherently flawed and cannot be perfect.
 

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Because there's a considerable market for the racist, homophobic, ignorant bullshit that they peddle.
 

SycoMantis91

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Because people rely on the news for their facts. They don't bother to fact-check everything they see. Most citizens have a "well, the news said it, so it's gotta be true" mentality. And anything false they report, they know the naysayers will just get overshadowed by all the people that have just been waiting for something to point it when they dont like said subject and say "that!"
 

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Forlong said:
Spoken like a true non-watcher of Fox News. If you did, you'd know they're the highest rated cable network (not just news network). In case their viewers forget, they're keen to remind you every ten minutes. That would keep them on the air regardless of accuracy.
They're also keen to remind you about how the media is dominated by liberals. It interests me how people can simultaneously believe two mutually contradictory statements.

Forlong said:
Looks like someone was playing Kadamari Domashi. This makes no sense, because the Moon has such a radically different surface than Earth.
Earth: 32% iron, 30% oxygen, 15% silicon, 14% magnesium, 3% sulfur, 2% nickel, 1.5% calcium, 1% aluminum, and trace amounts of other elements.
Moon: 43% oxygen, 21% silicon, 14% iron, 8% calcium, 7% aluminum, 6% magnesium, and trace amounts of other elements.

The amount of iron is to low and oxygen to high. If this Mystery Planet X formed in the same orbit as Earth, it would have about the same amount of iron and oxygen as Earth. Oh wait, the Moon was around before oxygen became so abundant on Earth. So its even worse than at first glance.
How the heck did this ever get onto the subject of theism vs. atheism?

Besides, working out the origins of the moon is science, not atheism.

Those proportions of elemental composition of the Earth are averaged across the entire planet. Different regions would have different compositions, so you would expect different compositions depending on where the impact occurred.

The amount of oxygen in the whole Earth (magma, rock, biomass, ocean & atmosphere) has not changed much. It has merely moved, from the rock and ocean, into the atmosphere. So I would indeed expect there to have been more oxygen in the solid parts of the Earth in the past.
 

For.I.Am.Mad

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How do any of these sites keep going? Santorum just called Obama the n word and NO ONE is talking about it outside of the blogosphere. Just 'Romney's camp calling it a lock.' and 'Romney confident in Wisconsin primary.'

At least with foxnews I know what I'm getting. Besides their primary demographic is white dudes aged 55 and above.