How is this important?

[KingPiccolOwned]

Okay, one of the things that I have experienced on this site with a good number of the threads I have put up is that the first four or five comments always happen to be something along the lines of "You should check the forum, this topic has already been done dozens of times before", as if it actually made my opinions less valid. Not to mention it is kind of unrealistic to think that anyone posting a thread is going to be trapsing back and forth throughouth the forum listings to see if there had been one that may have been remotely like it in the thousands that have posted. I don't want to seem like I am being winy about this, I just kind of want to get this out there so that people don't place the importance of a topic on how often people put it out there. That being said, anyone who cares can see my thoughts of FF13 at this link: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.117621

 

[Cpt_Oblivious]

We say it because, they'd find most of our answers if they used the Search Bar and found the past couple of threads like it.

 

[megapenguinx]

Because people who frequent the site hate seeing the same thread topics come up over and over again. Posting is a privilege, not a right. As such, users here expect new and diverse topics by which we can share input.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

Hasn't this already been done before?

 

[bue519]

Okay, one of the things that I have experienced on this site with a good number of the threads I have put up is that the first four or five comments always happen to be something along the lines of "You should check the forum, this topic has already been done dozens of times before", as if it actually made my opinions less valid. Not to mention it is kind of unrealistic to think that anyone posting a thread is going to be trapsing back and forth throughouth the forum listings to see if there had been one that may have been remotely like it in the thousands that have posted. I don't want to seem like I am being winy about this, I just kind of want to get this out there so that people don't place the importance of a topic on how often people put it out there. That being said, anyone who cares can see my thoughts of FF13 at this link: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.117621

Please go back under your bridge.

 

[BlueSharkBoy]

Yeah if you make a post that's been done before, you can bet anything that atleast one person is going to complain. I suppose it has something to do about making the forums "messy", but your right, no ones going to check loads of threads if they it's been done before. If there is about 5 or 6 threads of a similer topic I don't see what the big deal is.

 

[Gooble]

If you're on here regularly you don't need to check every time you go to post a new topic, you'll know before you post it whether or not it's been done in the past few weeks/months. It's OK if the topic was done like 6 months ago or whatever, but much less than that most people won't even bother to reply.

 

[Pandalisk]

Meh people here are grumpy when it comes to repeated posts, i dont really care to be honest, if its a thread i've seen maybe ill voice my opinion agian for the craic, or maybe ill just leave and search for more topics to talk about, its not like 7 seconds matter much to me.

 

[garfoldsomeoneelse]

This whole thread could have been avoided if OP'd taken the advice of the people he's bitching about.

 

[fix-the-spade]

Not to mention it is kind of unrealistic to think that anyone posting a thread is going to be trapsing back and forth throughouth the forum listings to see if there had been one that may have been remotely like it in the thousands that have posted.

It's not unrealistic, it's expected.

The forum search buttons are your friend here. They aren't infallable but they're much better than the old ones and they will help avoid repeat threads.

The reason people jump on it is because it gets very dull very fast looking at repeat threads with the same set of opinion ad infinitum. It also make each thread less valid, it gives the impression that the original poster isn't interested in discussion so much as getting onto their soap box and shouting.

If they'd really wanted wanted a discussion they would have searched and added to the existing one. It may not be fair but it makes the OP look lazy and sometimes ignorant when they post a repeat thread.

 

[GoldenRaz]

Not to mention it is kind of unrealistic to think that anyone posting a thread is going to be trapsing back and forth throughouth the forum listings to see if there had been one that may have been remotely like it in the thousands that have posted.

Well, I don't know about you but I've yet to do a forum search which gave me several pages of results. About 2 minutes tops of looking through the results from a search isn't that much considering that 2 minutes is (at least in my opinion) below the minimum amount of time that should be used when starting a new thread.

Also, people are like this for the reasons stated above: seeing the same thread redone several times a day every day is annoying, to say the least.

OFF-TOPIC EDIT:

Posting is a privilege, not a right. As such, users here expect new and diverse topics by which we can share input.

That should be added to the posting guidelines, since several people seem to think otherwise.

 

[KingPiccolOwned]

Not to mention it is kind of unrealistic to think that anyone posting a thread is going to be trapsing back and forth throughouth the forum listings to see if there had been one that may have been remotely like it in the thousands that have posted.

Well, I don't know about you but I've yet to do a forum search which gave me several pages of results. About 2 minutes tops of looking through the results from a search isn't that much considering that 2 minutes is (at least in my opinion) below the minimum amount of time that should be used when starting a new thread.

Also, people are like this for the reasons stated above: seeing the same thread redone several times a day every day is annoying, to say the least.

OFF-TOPIC EDIT:

Posting is a privilege, not a right. As such, users here expect new and diverse topics by which we can share input.

That should be added to the posting guidelines, since several people seem to think otherwise.

Okay, if it is expected for a person making a thread to find other threads like it before they post a thread then go make me a fucking essay on all the topics that have come up about Rome: Total war in a single day. Also if posting isn't a right then why the hell do we start with the ability to do so?

 

[Trivun]

Okay, one of the things that I have experienced on this site with a good number of the threads I have put up is that the first four or five comments always happen to be something along the lines of "You should check the forum, this topic has already been done dozens of times before", as if it actually made my opinions less valid. Not to mention it is kind of unrealistic to think that anyone posting a thread is going to be trapsing back and forth throughouth the forum listings to see if there had been one that may have been remotely like it in the thousands that have posted. I don't want to seem like I am being winy about this, I just kind of want to get this out there so that people don't place the importance of a topic on how often people put it out there. That being said, anyone who cares can see my thoughts of FF13 at this link: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.117621

Please go back under your bridge.

Oh, shut up, I think he's got a point. If I ever see anyone post "Use the Search Bar" on one of my threads, I'll be straight in there arguing it out and explaining exactly why there's no need for the search bar in that situation. I agree, you should use it, but at the same time there's no need to call someone out on it if they don't. If someone is new, and those are the worst offenders, then there's no need to call them out on the search bar, when instead we should just gently explain the situation, and then post something to keep on topic. For the more experienced members, there's usually a good reason, or the person did use the search bar and didn't find anything. I've searched past threads before and it is by no means an accurate innovation. Sometimes it'll list really old topics from two years ago, and then sometimes nothing at all, and either way someone will shout "SEARCH BAR!!!!!" just because they can. There's no need. Either make a valid comment on a subject and then politley explain that the search bar should have been used, calmly and respectfully, or don't bother posting at all. I always report people who just say "Use the Search Bar" and I refuse to relent. And I highly doubt I'm alone in this thinking too.

As for the bridge, I believe that's your abode, not the OP's.

 

[KingPiccolOwned]

Okay, one of the things that I have experienced on this site with a good number of the threads I have put up is that the first four or five comments always happen to be something along the lines of "You should check the forum, this topic has already been done dozens of times before", as if it actually made my opinions less valid. Not to mention it is kind of unrealistic to think that anyone posting a thread is going to be trapsing back and forth throughouth the forum listings to see if there had been one that may have been remotely like it in the thousands that have posted. I don't want to seem like I am being winy about this, I just kind of want to get this out there so that people don't place the importance of a topic on how often people put it out there. That being said, anyone who cares can see my thoughts of FF13 at this link: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.117621

Please go back under your bridge.

Oh, shut up, I think he's got a point. If I ever see anyone post "Use the Search Bar" on one of my threads, I'll be straight in there arguing it out and explaining exactly why there's no need for the search bar in that situation. I agree, you should use it, but at the same time there's no need to call someone out on it if they don't. If someone is new, and those are the worst offenders, then there's no need to call them out on the search bar, when instead we should just gently explain the situation, and then post something to keep on topic. For the more experienced members, there's usually a good reason, or the person did use the search bar and didn't find anything. I've searched past threads before and it is by no means an accurate innovation. Sometimes it'll list really old topics from two years ago, and then sometimes nothing at all, and either way someone will shout "SEARCH BAR!!!!!" just because they can. There's no need. Either make a valid comment on a subject and then politley explain that the search bar should have been used, calmly and respectfully, or don't bother posting at all. I always report people who just say "Use the Search Bar" and I refuse to relent. And I highly doubt I'm alone in this thinking too.

As for the bridge, I believe that's your abode, not the OP's.

Umm... You do know I am the guy who posted FF13... Still Sucky right? Well either way thank you for some support. Also, tell me where this Search Bar thing is so I don't get assholes complaining about this sort of thing.

 

[Trivun]

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Okay, one of the things that I have experienced on this site with a good number of the threads I have put up is that the first four or five comments always happen to be something along the lines of "You should check the forum, this topic has already been done dozens of times before", as if it actually made my opinions less valid. Not to mention it is kind of unrealistic to think that anyone posting a thread is going to be trapsing back and forth throughouth the forum listings to see if there had been one that may have been remotely like it in the thousands that have posted. I don't want to seem like I am being winy about this, I just kind of want to get this out there so that people don't place the importance of a topic on how often people put it out there. That being said, anyone who cares can see my thoughts of FF13 at this link: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.117621

Please go back under your bridge.

Oh, shut up, I think he's got a point. If I ever see anyone post "Use the Search Bar" on one of my threads, I'll be straight in there arguing it out and explaining exactly why there's no need for the search bar in that situation. I agree, you should use it, but at the same time there's no need to call someone out on it if they don't. If someone is new, and those are the worst offenders, then there's no need to call them out on the search bar, when instead we should just gently explain the situation, and then post something to keep on topic. For the more experienced members, there's usually a good reason, or the person did use the search bar and didn't find anything. I've searched past threads before and it is by no means an accurate innovation. Sometimes it'll list really old topics from two years ago, and then sometimes nothing at all, and either way someone will shout "SEARCH BAR!!!!!" just because they can. There's no need. Either make a valid comment on a subject and then politley explain that the search bar should have been used, calmly and respectfully, or don't bother posting at all. I always report people who just say "Use the Search Bar" and I refuse to relent. And I highly doubt I'm alone in this thinking too.

As for the bridge, I believe that's your abode, not the OP's.

Umm... You do know I am the guy who posted FF13... Still Sucky right? Well either way thank you for some support. Also, tell me where this Search Bar thing is so I don't get assholes complaining about this sort of thing.

Yep, I know you're the FF 13 guy. However, just because I don't like your opinion on FF 13, doesn't mean I don't like you at all. In other words, I'm not the sort to judge someone based on one post or one opinion that I disagree with. As it happens I do completely agree with you on the whole search button thing. Anyway, the search bar is at the top right corner of each page on The Escapist, just for future reference.

 

[SmartIdiot]

Posting is a privilege, not a right.

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Ok...

 

[BlueSharkBoy]

I really don't see the HUGE deal is about making a post that's been done before. I mean yes, if it's been done before one thousand times of the exact same topic and questions then yeah people should stop, but if it's only been done 5 or 6 times, it's no big deal. Plus it gives the new members a chance to find it and discuss it and post their comments on a thread that will recieve views and replies. If they post it on one that was done six months ago hardly anyone is going to see it.

Regulars who complain alot on multipul threads: stop complaining and give the new guys a chance to happily discuss it.

 

[Zombie_Fish]

Hey guess what?

This topic was done yesterday.

That is why the responses are what they are.
Because seeing the same thing day after day after day after day is kind of a pain.

Also, it takes up space in the forums. As NewClassic said once:

When I first joined, Off-Topic had a front page time of almost two days. Today, it's closer to a single hour.

We have tonnes of copies of the same threads as a result. This means that people can't be bothered to wade through the archives and therefore just make more copies of the same thread which takes up even more space. It's a vicious cycle that just won't break. We have had millions (Exaggeration for effect) of favourite and best game threads as a result when we could just get away with one.

EDIT: It also gets annoying not realising what threads you have and haven't posted in. Darth Mobius once said that he posted in one forum but then found out he had already posted in it about a month ago but because he had already posted in three threads on the same topic he couldn't remember which ones he had posted in.

 

[GoldenRaz]

Not to mention it is kind of unrealistic to think that anyone posting a thread is going to be trapsing back and forth throughouth the forum listings to see if there had been one that may have been remotely like it in the thousands that have posted.

Well, I don't know about you but I've yet to do a forum search which gave me several pages of results. About 2 minutes tops of looking through the results from a search isn't that much considering that 2 minutes is (at least in my opinion) below the minimum amount of time that should be used when starting a new thread.

Also, people are like this for the reasons stated above: seeing the same thread redone several times a day every day is annoying, to say the least.

OFF-TOPIC EDIT:

Posting is a privilege, not a right. As such, users here expect new and diverse topics by which we can share input.

That should be added to the posting guidelines, since several people seem to think otherwise.

Okay, if it is expected for a person making a thread to find other threads like it before they post a thread then go make me a fucking essay on all the topics that have come up about Rome: Total war in a single day. Also if posting isn't a right then why the hell do we start with the ability to do so?

I'm really not in the mood of making a "f*cking" essay on all the threads about Rome: Total War, but that is not really the point. I certainly do not expect you to do a summary of all the previous threads where it is even mentioned when you start another thread about it. I'll say it again:
Use the "Search Forums" button in the upper right corner of the thread!
Then you'll get maybe 50 (actually took the time to count the number of hits for "rome: total war") hits that doesn't take that long to see if any of them has taken care of the topic you wanted to present (first result was a thread named "Favourite Mods", so that's probably not what you're looking for).

And I consider it a privilege to post here. Think of it as someone's house; if you behave, you get to stick around. If you start to throw around furniture then they'll probably throw you out. The mods are here to take care of those who can't handle the privilege of posting on this site. Because it's not a right to post on a website, at the very least not to me.

*DISCLAIMER* I'm not trying to attack you personally, I'm just trying to explain my point.
If you took any offense from this post then I'm deeply sorry and I apologise. *DISCLAIMER*

 

[Zombie_Fish]

Hey guess what?

This topic was done yesterday.

That is why the responses are what they are.
Because seeing the same thing day after day after day after day is kind of a pain.

Also, it takes up space in the forums. As NewClassic said once:

When I first joined, Off-Topic had a front page time of almost two days. Today, it's closer to a single hour.

We have tonnes of copies of the same threads as a result. This means that people can't be bothered to wade through the archives and therefore just make more copies of the same thread which takes up even more space. It's a vicious cycle that just won't break. We have had millions (Exaggeration for effect) of favourite and best game threads as a result when we could just get away with one.

I'm not sure millions is as much of an exaggeration as you seem to think it is, honestly.
I wish there was a sort of cooldown time for thread posting.

If there was a thread about [x], no more could be made for a few days, etc.

I've just looked up favourite game in the searchbar. You're right.

Anyway, the cooldown idea could work, but it could be too problematic for the staff to handle. The system doesn't delete or lock threads only mods can do that, and having to do it across several forums where as stated before, the front page time is only an hour would just be far too demanding on their behalf. However, if they did find a way to do it, then it should work.