How much Truth can you handle?

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heyheysg

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Here's the thing, truth is a pretty subjective thing. Things like love, beauty and morality are pretty hard to judge.

So people lie to each others and most to themselves.

Sometimes it's useful, if you're really ugly, just convince yourself that it doesn't matter and go out anyway. If you find someone, your truth becomes real.

Sometimes it's bad, like if you're poor and tell yourself that you are rich, then probably your lie won't become the truth and you end up on the sidewalk.

So the question is, how much should you lie to yourself and others?

Or rather how much do you want others to lie to you?
 

Trivun

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This thread needs it...


Now that's out of the way, I can handle the truth pretty well. I always want people to tell me the truth as much as possible, for instance, if someone doesn't like me then I want them to be open about it, because talking about someone behind their back is one of the most dickish things you can do to them. And I prefer knowing facts rather than lies.

That being said, I'm a slight hypocrite here, because I don't always tell the truth. I try to as much as possible, but sometimes there are just little white lies I tell people to get out of trouble, if I think I can get away with it (I usually do). Bit of a dick move on my part, but still. It's certainly not something I'm proud of.

You want the truth? You can't handle the truth! No truth handler you! Bah, I deride your truth-handling abilities!

Kelsey Grammer's voice makes everything awesome :D
 

tzimize

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I can handle all of it. I tell my friends the truth, at least when they ask it of me and I tell them what I truly think.

Honesty is the only way to trust.

Handling truth is not the same as telling people every stupid detail though. If I had a friend with a nose that was slightly odder than the average, why would I tell him? I'm sure he is aware and the "truth" of telling him is just rudeness.

I dont lie to myself, and I dont lie to my friends. I ask the same of them, but a bit of commons sense doesnt hurt either.
 

TheRealCJ

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I need truth of no kind.

Now if you excuse me, Pete Moon and I are off to hunt pelicans in the gobi.
 

similar.squirrel

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I took it for granted that I was too unattractive to ever find a partner, partly because an insecure [and considerably better-looking] friend of mine convinced me of this fact in my early teens.
I have had several partners since; he has had one very brief liaison. And I'm still trying to figure out whether I'm ugly or not.

When you do find out the truth [and the truth is bad], it usually comes in the form of a series of soul-crushing realizations. You'll know when it happens. If it doesn't, it's probably not true.
 

gigastar

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I take truth as it comes, but for the convienience of others i refer to simple lies and Insane Troll Logic [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InsaneTrollLogic]. Which explains why i like pie so much.
 

Count Igor

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All truth.
No lies.
I don't care how bad the truth is, it's better than any sort of lie.
 

StarStruckStrumpets

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I'm one for complete truth.

If people complain to me about something, and I know the reason why it's happening, I tell them. I don't reassure them, because that won't help them better themselves. I expect to be treated in the same manner.
 

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There is truth to the phrase "ignorance is bliss". When it comes to my professional self I rather people be as honest with me as possible, with out being soul crushingly blunt (i'm a sensitive man).

But when it comes to me as a person, I'm usually hyper critical of myself, so for personal truths, I rather not hear the same things I beat myself up over from people close to me (or even distant... anyone really).

So in essence. I want the truth of how good I am at what... but leave me personally out of "your" truthfulness as my psyche can't handle an external dissection of my apparent flaws.

As for the "greater" truth (You know, the Why? + life questions) I pursue my own take on it... I rather not entirely accept someone else's truth. However, friendly debates over our perceived truths can be entertaining and enlightening so I'm not totally against outside influences. (which would be pretty stupid and impossible to begin with)

When it comes to me, and being truthful to others... I say I can be rather selfish, usually withholding self depreciating info, as to not cause aggro with friends or family. But when it comes to professional truth I can be to the point, but soft edged... and when people ask me about how I think of them? Well... I'm the master of suger coating (then again, most people who care about how I think, I look up to them and wouldn't have reason to criticise much).
 

NeutralDrow

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If I tried to use the Sword of Shannara, I'd probably drop it and slam my head into a wall for five minutes.
 

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I dunno, I lie a lot to other people but I don't think I lie all that much to myself. I don't really have a very important reason to lie, either, I just do it when it speeds up a process and the likelihood and consequences of getting caught is sufficiently small. Sometimes when strangers start chatting up with me, I start pulling shit out of my arse just because I can.
 

chris11246

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NeutralDrow said:
If I tried to use the Sword of Shannara, I'd probably drop it and slam my head into a wall for five minutes.
I had forgotten about that book. I think I'd be able to handle the sword, or at least I'd like to think I could.

OT: I think I can take the major truths but I dont need to know everything. If they want to tell me a small lie that doesnt really affect things then I dont care.
 

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heyheysg said:
Here's the thing, truth is a pretty subjective thing. Things like love, beauty and morality are pretty hard to judge.

So people lie to each others and most to themselves.

Sometimes it's useful, if you're really ugly, just convince yourself that it doesn't matter and go out anyway. If you find someone, your truth becomes real.

Sometimes it's bad, like if you're poor and tell yourself that you are rich, then probably your lie won't become the truth and you end up on the sidewalk.

So the question is, how much should you lie to yourself and others?

Or rather how much do you want others to lie to you?
If something is subjective then it holds no actual truth.
 

T8B95

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Trivun said:
This thread needs it...

You, sir, just made my day. I thought I'd see that clip in here somewhere.

OT: I never lie to myself, and I try not to lie to others.