But going for a cheaper 1155 chip gives you a nice upgrade path to 2500k/2600k/presumably Ivy Bridge. As I say, if AMD catches up it may be worthwhile but they've got a lot of work to do.Kabutos said:
How to get into PC gaming?
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Okay, so ignoring your kind of meh build, I'm going to say this as simply as I can:ElNeroDiablo said:
IGPs. Are worthless. For gaming.
Sure, you might scrape by 30 fps in Black Ops at low settings an 1024x768, but any dedicated GPU, even a rock-bottom card like the 5570 will blow it out of the water.
Okay yeah you could do that or upgrade to a better GPU or SSD which will have a lot more impact in gaming than a CPU.number2301 said:
Point is, why would you spend more money on say, an i3 2100 (which btw is a dual core with hyperthreading so it'll be a bit slower than a true quad core) than an X4 955, when the latter will give you equal or even better performance until you swap out the i3 for a 2500k.
IMO if you want to go SB, then save up enough until you can buy a 2500k from the beginning, otherwise, AMD will give you more for your money.
Agree. There's designer logic to this too. Even if the Intel integrated cards are -not bad- by their own numbers, the fact is that PC game developers create their games optimized for the AMD and Nvidia cards. Any PC game programmer will tell you graphics cards tend to have their own ways they work slightly differently, but very few people are aiming for Intel cards for optimization, as not many PC gamers use them.Kabutos said:
60-odd FPS in TF2 at either 1280x1024 or 1680x1050 (full-screen) on middle-ish settings (then again, TF2 is a rather poor benchmark when comparing cards like the 580 and 6970, but that's a different story) on a BenQ FP222W 22". MC will fluctuate between 10fps and 1000fps (typically in menus, so yeah... grain of salt), depending on render distance and how much RAM Java is hogging for MC to run (the APU has a blanket amount of 256MB + 2MB 'swap' for the V-RAM atm).
I know something like the GTX 460 ($216 + S&H at ACO [http://computeronline.com.au/products.php?C_ID=8&S_ID=125&PROD=31800&PHPSESSID=&]) with 1GB GDDR5 is gonna blow the HD2000 out of the water, but even so the HD2000 tears a new craphole in my 8400GS (PCI) and 9400GT (LP PCIe) in comparison. I'll probably look at getting the 460 in a while's time, but for me that can come AFTER a few other things are bought and paid off, so I'll stick with the HD2000 for now.
Anyways, hitting 5am 'ere (East Aus) and I'm about to crash into oblivion. Night.
I know something like the GTX 460 ($216 + S&H at ACO [http://computeronline.com.au/products.php?C_ID=8&S_ID=125&PROD=31800&PHPSESSID=&]) with 1GB GDDR5 is gonna blow the HD2000 out of the water, but even so the HD2000 tears a new craphole in my 8400GS (PCI) and 9400GT (LP PCIe) in comparison. I'll probably look at getting the 460 in a while's time, but for me that can come AFTER a few other things are bought and paid off, so I'll stick with the HD2000 for now.
Anyways, hitting 5am 'ere (East Aus) and I'm about to crash into oblivion. Night.
I'm actually just getting into PC gaming too. I want to get a few more years out of my current computer so I'm just going to upgrade it a bit. It currently has a Intel E6400 2.13 GHz processor and 2GB of RAM. Woefully underpowered now, I know, but it was good at the time XD.
I'm still learning about the ins and outs of all of this, but I did my homework and I think what I've decided on should work well for what I need for a while. Intel E7200 2.93 GHz processor and an extra 2GB stick of RAM (4GB is all my particular computer can handle anyway) should do the trick for me.
I'm still learning about the ins and outs of all of this, but I did my homework and I think what I've decided on should work well for what I need for a while. Intel E7200 2.93 GHz processor and an extra 2GB stick of RAM (4GB is all my particular computer can handle anyway) should do the trick for me.
I payed approximately $1200 AUS (Custom Built) for my desktop one and a half years ago, and $1000 AUS (Retail) for my laptop 6 months ago, as long as your not doing anything absolutely stupid witth it its basically never going to overheat enough for it to be damaged, and when it does the laptop has the advantage of being mobile, I have had my desktop overheat once and the only real solution is turn it off and hope for the best.Antari said:
The real reson laptops are becoming much more viable is that newer parts are much more expensiive and bigger, yet actually minimally upgrade it. The newest set of processers (i7) from Intel is particularly bad, compared to the i5 series, since they are nearly quadruple the price in some cases, yet at best provide a few fps's higher for gaming and have features most software still doesn't use.
Not that I'm saying desktop is worse, I still prefer it in the end, but laptops are starting to be close to them in terms of power, and with the advantage of portability (even if you need to carry the charger because it eats its battery fast) still brings the two even closer.