How to Save Bad Franchises

[DrDeath3191]

The idea is simple (and might have already been done, I'm not sure); name a franchise that's gone downhill, and describe what you would do to fix it if you were in charge. Seeing as Sonic is both obvious and unoriginal, I will do mine on another franchise: Leisure Suit Larry.

First off, Larry is a point-and-click adventure title. NOT an action platformer. GET IT RIGHT! One would think that Larry would star in a PC game in this format; I recommend the Wii, not only because of my fanaticism, but also because Zack and Wiki proved it could be done brilliantly.

Which leads me to my next point; be like Z&W. Instead of having everything in a single space, divide it into unique levels, each with different objectives to get into a target woman. You can go nuts with what the correct conditions are to get laid; chick with a heavy dude who could beat the crap out of you. No problem. Grab a steak, put it into the dude's pants, wake up some hungry dogs, dogs chase man, lady is available. You can add motion mini-games as needed. The possibilities, you'll find, are quite numerous.

This one is only mildly important to any other franchise, but to LSL it is essential: WOMEN NEED SEX-APPEAL. Seriously, have you SEEN Box Office Bust's character models?! I don't want to fuck it, I want to kill it with fire!

With these changes, Larry could be great again. You need to isolate what make LSL fun; puzzles, point-and-click action, and hot, easy chicks.

 

[iain62a]

Leisure Suit Larry always seemed quite degrading and sexist towards women to me.

I don't think it should be allowed to carry on in a modern world without gender discrimination.

 

[DrDeath3191]

Leisure Suit Larry always seemed quite degrading and sexist towards women to me.

I don't think it should be allowed to carry on in a modern world without gender discrimination.

... Kind of the point of the game, man. Anyway, this modern world you describe, the one without gender discrimination... where is it? People discriminate all the time, based on preferences, past experience, and the like. Sometimes gender is a thing that needs to be discriminated. For example, jobs that require large amounts of physical strength. Let's say a fireman (fireperson to those too politically correct to realize that fireperson isn't a word). Should gender be discriminated on in this field? HELL YES! Simple biology; men have the higher potential for physical strength. So, men would be the preferred gender.

Anyway, I'm rambling. The point of this thread is to discuss gaming franchises that were awesome, but now suck. Not political correctness (which I absolutely abhor).

 

[LazerLuger]

For Sonic the Hedgehog:

No furry.
No 3D platforming.
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles only.
Final Destination.

 

[iain62a]

Leisure Suit Larry always seemed quite degrading and sexist towards women to me.

I don't think it should be allowed to carry on in a modern world without gender discrimination.

... Kind of the point of the game, man. Anyway, this modern world you describe, the one without gender discrimination... where is it? People discriminate all the time, based on preferences, past experience, and the like. Sometimes gender is a thing that needs to be discriminated. For example, jobs that require large amounts of physical strength. Let's say a fireman (fireperson to those too politically correct to realize that fireperson isn't a word). Should gender be discriminated on in this field? HELL YES! Simple biology; men have the higher potential for physical strength. So, men would be the preferred gender.

Anyway, I'm rambling. The point of this thread is to discuss gaming franchises that were awesome, but now suck. Not political correctness (which I absolutely abhor).

This has fuck-all to do with political correctness.

And what does the part about people being descriminated on past experience have to do with anything? That's not really discrimination in the way it's meant in this context, that's just choosing the right person for the job.

I said gender discrimination, in case you hadn't noticed.

The example you gave about the fireman is kind of obvious, of course males would generally be more suited to the job, but that's just common sense.

The game seems to be personifying women as objects to have sex with, and not people. That's what I meant.

Anyway. I suppose I had better post something related to the topic now.

Fuck it, I'll just use the obvious one.

Sonic. Used to be good, wet 3-D, is now shit (Gross over-simplification).

I don't know what the last good Sonic game was, but I do know it isn't a recent one. I think the best thing they could do with that franchise is to go back to basics, with a 2-D game. A game of Sonic's type works best with 2-D.

That said, it's probably best to just let Sonic die.

 

[ryai458]

For Sonic the Hedgehog:

No furry.
No 3D platforming.
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles only.
Final Destination.

i think its a little late for sonic it ran its course its time for it to go away gracefully or atleast with what little grace it has left

 

[timmytom1]

Put some Cyanide in their drink,or shoot them

 

[DrDeath3191]

Leisure Suit Larry always seemed quite degrading and sexist towards women to me.

I don't think it should be allowed to carry on in a modern world without gender discrimination.

... Kind of the point of the game, man. Anyway, this modern world you describe, the one without gender discrimination... where is it? People discriminate all the time, based on preferences, past experience, and the like. Sometimes gender is a thing that needs to be discriminated. For example, jobs that require large amounts of physical strength. Let's say a fireman (fireperson to those too politically correct to realize that fireperson isn't a word). Should gender be discriminated on in this field? HELL YES! Simple biology; men have the higher potential for physical strength. So, men would be the preferred gender.

Anyway, I'm rambling. The point of this thread is to discuss gaming franchises that were awesome, but now suck. Not political correctness (which I absolutely abhor).

This has fuck-all to do with political correctness.

And what does the part about people being descriminated on past experience have to do with anything? That's not really discrimination in the way it's meant in this context, that's just choosing the right person for the job.

I said gender discrimination, in case you hadn't noticed.

The example you gave about the fireman is kind of obvious, of course males would generally be more suited to the job, but that's just common sense.

The game seems to be personifying women as objects to have sex with, and not people. That's what I meant.

Anyway. I suppose I had better post something related to the topic now.

Fuck it, I'll just use the obvious one.

Sonic. Used to be good, wet 3-D, is now shit (Gross over-simplification).

I don't know what the last good Sonic game was, but I do know it isn't a recent one. I think the best thing they could do with that franchise is to go back to basics, with a 2-D game. A game of Sonic's type works best with 2-D.

My apologies. I misinterpreted your statement. But women being objects is the point of LSL. It's what makes it fun. Women are the objectives, the goal, the finish-line. If you take the time to personify the women, it takes away from what makes the game enjoyable. You can't have a life-story of one woman, complete the level, and forget about her for the next. It doesn't work in gameplay or in narrative (although, who plays LSL for narrative, anyhow?). Keep it simple, or you get "Sonic syndrome": too many characters can kill a story.

 

[OneBig Man]

Banjo-Kazooie.

More of the first two, less of the new one. (though i still had a little fun with the demo i played)

new antaganist


more mumbo's magic

 

[Pimppeter2]

Pong

Remake it with cutting edge graphics

 

[SharPhoe]

For Sonic the Hedgehog:

No furry.
No 3D platforming.
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles only.
Final Destination.

I saw that bit coming from a mile away. Still your point is basically valid.

 

[MarxonSR1]

Well in my opinion most franchises that need to be save e.g sonic are so far down the line it would almost need a total restructuring and then it just becomes seperate from the franchise. Or not separate enough so it tries to retain some of the original franchise and becomes rubbish.

 

[PureBredGentleman]

James Bond games.

Make you feel like Bond: This does NOT mean making you invulnerable to bullets, or giving you a really big gun. It means make you feel like a badass agent. This can easily be achieved through a Assassin's Creed like camera and parkour for gameplay. The point of the game would be less about killing badguys in generic ways, (shooting them in the face) and more about dodging THEIR bullets and killing them in FANTASTIC ways. (Jumping off a roof, using the bad guy's head as a cushion for your feet.)


Sonic games

DIE.