how will it end?
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No, no that's not what's going to happen. What's going to happen is the amount of pedantic people who treat grammar as the yardstick of civilization will continue to increase until it reaches an apex; then they will annoy everyone to death. ;DJarek Mace said:
for us it'll be nuclear war, or if we're lucky, we might last until the sun starts to run out of hydrogen fuel and starts using helium, expanding it until it engulfs the earth, no matter what in the end the universe will either start to move back together into a single point, or it'll expand forever until all the stars die and the universe simply composes of black holes forever devouring any remaining forms of matter
Oh shit.Grey Day for Elcia said:
Can I please continue to live my pointless life in your glorious future?
Pleeeease?
The world will probably end when I die.
At least, my perception of the world.
Wow. Now I feel like a downer.
At least, my perception of the world.
Wow. Now I feel like a downer.
50 years ago we calculated phosphor shortage in 200 years (that's 200 years from 1950) now we estimate it to happen in 50-100 years. Nitrogen shortage is also expected to hit us in about 100 years.
Loss of these will mean we wont have proteins, energy carriers, enzymes or DNA. Really, the end is going to be pretty boring with most like getting deficiencies.
Loss of these will mean we wont have proteins, energy carriers, enzymes or DNA. Really, the end is going to be pretty boring with most like getting deficiencies.
I will consider it. It depends how well you can grovel, really.Fieldy409 said:Oh shit.Grey Day for Elcia said:
Can I please continue to live my pointless life in your glorious future?
Pleeeease?
Evolution, my friend. Evolution. There's a creature (I just forgot it's name) that lives completely without the sun. We used to think, in one way or another, every living organism used the sun's effects or benefited from them via a chain. But this little guy is so deep in the ocean that not only does no sunlight or energy get to him, almost nothing at all does. It lives off underwater volcanoes or something. My point is: life finds a way.Yopaz said:
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Evolution takes more than 50-100 years. Our essential building block, DNA is composed of these things. Even virus, something defined as nonliving can't function without that. If a phosphor shortage does hit that is the end of everything we know as life. There might come organisms in a few million years after that aren't based on this, but right now nothing can live without DNA/RNA.Grey Day for Elcia said:I will consider it. It depends how well you can grovel, really.Fieldy409 said:Oh shit.Grey Day for Elcia said:
Can I please continue to live my pointless life in your glorious future?
Pleeeease?
Evolution, my friend. Evolution. There's a creature (I just forgot it's name) that lives completely without the sun. We used to think, in one way or another, every living organism used the sun's effects or benefited from them via a chain. But this little guy is so deep in the ocean that not only does no sunlight or energy get to him, almost nothing at all does. It lives off underwater volcanoes or something. My point is: life finds a way.Yopaz said:
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These things don't simply disappear overnight; I'm fairly certain we won't wake up one day and find an essential component for life has simply vanished.Yopaz said:Evolution takes more than 50-100 years. Our essential building block, DNA is composed of these things. Even virus, something defined as nonliving can't function without that. If a phosphor shortage does hit that is the end of everything we know as life. There might come organisms in a few million years after that aren't based on this, but right now nothing can live without DNA/RNA.Grey Day for Elcia said:I will consider it. It depends how well you can grovel, really.Fieldy409 said:Oh shit.Grey Day for Elcia said:
Can I please continue to live my pointless life in your glorious future?
Pleeeease?
Evolution, my friend. Evolution. There's a creature (I just forgot it's name) that lives completely without the sun. We used to think, in one way or another, every living organism used the sun's effects or benefited from them via a chain. But this little guy is so deep in the ocean that not only does no sunlight or energy get to him, almost nothing at all does. It lives off underwater volcanoes or something. My point is: life finds a way.Yopaz said:
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If nothing else, overpopulation will do the trick nicely: we seem hell-bent on that.
Couldn't be zombies, every-fucking-person-ever knows how to kill a zombie now with our fascination for them as a people.
I don't know what it'll be really, I just hope it's not anal-craving, super-powered aliens...
Couldn't be zombies, every-fucking-person-ever knows how to kill a zombie now with our fascination for them as a people.
I don't know what it'll be really, I just hope it's not anal-craving, super-powered aliens...
the 2 biggest possibilities are probably: Beard-ageddon (Beards will become sentient and overthrow humanity) and the Linux-pocalypse (Linux will be installed onto LIFE and we will all be secure but simple with limited functions)
london england
horzine biotech conducts top sectet genetic experiment
something went horribly wrong...
you can run but they'll find you before dawn
horzine biotech conducts top sectet genetic experiment
something went horribly wrong...
you can run but they'll find you before dawn
Yeah, but you might see that never said we would wake up one day to find out that it's gone. I said that we have calculated depletion to occur between 50 and 100 years from now. I also said that's too short span for evolution to save us. It took millions of years for DNA to be created, do you honestly think 50 years of evolution will be enough for us to get genes composed from something other than DNA? Do you think we'll be able to stop using proteins? Do you think we'll ever be able to stop using ATP, NADH and NADPH? Do you honestly think that in 100 years we wont need to digest glucose?Grey Day for Elcia said:These things don't simply disappear overnight; I'm fairly certain we won't wake up one day and find an essential component for life has simply vanished.Yopaz said:Evolution takes more than 50-100 years. Our essential building block, DNA is composed of these things. Even virus, something defined as nonliving can't function without that. If a phosphor shortage does hit that is the end of everything we know as life. There might come organisms in a few million years after that aren't based on this, but right now nothing can live without DNA/RNA.Grey Day for Elcia said:I will consider it. It depends how well you can grovel, really.Fieldy409 said:Oh shit.Grey Day for Elcia said:
Can I please continue to live my pointless life in your glorious future?
Pleeeease?
Evolution, my friend. Evolution. There's a creature (I just forgot it's name) that lives completely without the sun. We used to think, in one way or another, every living organism used the sun's effects or benefited from them via a chain. But this little guy is so deep in the ocean that not only does no sunlight or energy get to him, almost nothing at all does. It lives off underwater volcanoes or something. My point is: life finds a way.Yopaz said:
Captcha: "science class" 0.0
Look at the pyrolysis. Look at the citric acid cycle. Look at oxidative phosphorolysis. Look at DNA replication. Look at DNA transcription. Look at the protein synthesis. Look the photosynthesis. When you're done with that, tell me that we don't need phosphor.
You know, you haven't actually offered anything at all to support your arguments yet. All we have so far is conjecture and repeated insistence. If you can show me proof of your claims (read: peer-reviewed and accredited studies) and only then, can you have a debate. I'm hardly going to believe some random commentator in a forum that assures me the world is going to end in fifty to a hundred years, lol.Yopaz said:Yeah, but you might see that never said we would wake up one day to find out that it's gone. I said that we have calculated depletion to occur between 50 and 100 years from now. I also said that's too short span for evolution to save us. It took millions of years for DNA to be created, do you honestly think 50 years of evolution will be enough for us to get genes composed from something other than DNA? Do you think we'll be able to stop using proteins? Do you think we'll ever be able to stop using ATP, NADH and NADPH? Do you honestly think that in 100 years we wont need to digest glucose?Grey Day for Elcia said:These things don't simply disappear overnight; I'm fairly certain we won't wake up one day and find an essential component for life has simply vanished.Yopaz said:Evolution takes more than 50-100 years. Our essential building block, DNA is composed of these things. Even virus, something defined as nonliving can't function without that. If a phosphor shortage does hit that is the end of everything we know as life. There might come organisms in a few million years after that aren't based on this, but right now nothing can live without DNA/RNA.Grey Day for Elcia said:I will consider it. It depends how well you can grovel, really.Fieldy409 said:Oh shit.Grey Day for Elcia said:
Can I please continue to live my pointless life in your glorious future?
Pleeeease?
Evolution, my friend. Evolution. There's a creature (I just forgot it's name) that lives completely without the sun. We used to think, in one way or another, every living organism used the sun's effects or benefited from them via a chain. But this little guy is so deep in the ocean that not only does no sunlight or energy get to him, almost nothing at all does. It lives off underwater volcanoes or something. My point is: life finds a way.Yopaz said:
Captcha: "science class" 0.0
Look at the pyrolysis. Look at the citric acid cycle. Look at oxidative phosphorolysis. Look at DNA replication. Look at DNA transcription. Look at the protein synthesis. Look the photosynthesis. When you're done with that, tell me that we don't need phosphor.
To be fair, evolution happens so gradually, whatever dominant species existing in the future may well refer to themselves as "human" even when they no longer resemble us in the slightest. Unless we're wiped out by some huge disaster.theonlyblaze2 said:
The only way for the world to end completely is when it gets swallowed up by the sun........... or Cthulhu.
If you mean humanity, then that will happen when Community gets cancelled and go on a murderous frenzy. SIX SEASONS AND A MOVIE!!!
If you mean humanity, then that will happen when Community gets cancelled and go on a murderous frenzy. SIX SEASONS AND A MOVIE!!!
http://phosphorus.global-connections.nl/Grey Day for Elcia said:You know, you haven't actually offered anything at all to support your arguments yet. All we have so far is conjecture and repeated insistence. If you can show me proof of your claims (read: peer-reviewed and accredited studies) and only then, can you have a debate. I'm hardly going to believe some random commentator in a forum that assures me the world is going to end in fifty to a hundred years, lol.Yopaz said:Yeah, but you might see that never said we would wake up one day to find out that it's gone. I said that we have calculated depletion to occur between 50 and 100 years from now. I also said that's too short span for evolution to save us. It took millions of years for DNA to be created, do you honestly think 50 years of evolution will be enough for us to get genes composed from something other than DNA? Do you think we'll be able to stop using proteins? Do you think we'll ever be able to stop using ATP, NADH and NADPH? Do you honestly think that in 100 years we wont need to digest glucose?Grey Day for Elcia said:These things don't simply disappear overnight; I'm fairly certain we won't wake up one day and find an essential component for life has simply vanished.Yopaz said:Evolution takes more than 50-100 years. Our essential building block, DNA is composed of these things. Even virus, something defined as nonliving can't function without that. If a phosphor shortage does hit that is the end of everything we know as life. There might come organisms in a few million years after that aren't based on this, but right now nothing can live without DNA/RNA.Grey Day for Elcia said:I will consider it. It depends how well you can grovel, really.Fieldy409 said:Oh shit.Grey Day for Elcia said:
Can I please continue to live my pointless life in your glorious future?
Pleeeease?
Evolution, my friend. Evolution. There's a creature (I just forgot it's name) that lives completely without the sun. We used to think, in one way or another, every living organism used the sun's effects or benefited from them via a chain. But this little guy is so deep in the ocean that not only does no sunlight or energy get to him, almost nothing at all does. It lives off underwater volcanoes or something. My point is: life finds a way.Yopaz said:
Captcha: "science class" 0.0
Look at the pyrolysis. Look at the citric acid cycle. Look at oxidative phosphorolysis. Look at DNA replication. Look at DNA transcription. Look at the protein synthesis. Look the photosynthesis. When you're done with that, tell me that we don't need phosphor.
http://phosphorusfutures.net/peak-phosphorus
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/2882
I will also add that I have had inorganic chemistry in university and our professor Karl Petter Lillerud presented this problem to us and it is supported by our course book: Descriptive Inorganic Chemistry 5th edition written by Geoffrey Rayner-Canham and Tina Overton and published by W. H. Freeman.
Now I have presented several sources, most of them form a quick Google search. If you search more closely all you'll find is confirmation that what I say is correct. Really, try it. Find one unbiased source claiming I am wrong.