How worried about the election are you?

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I am not, if was living in a large American city I would be.

Biden has little fans because he is a corporate neoliberal, but his Antifa allies will likely be dealt with by the FBI like anonymous was. 3 arrests and Antifa will be gone.
 

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Considering that I don't want either presidential candidate to win?

Yeah, I'm not so much worried as I am disappointed.
I'm kind of surprised. I figured you'd have a preference for one of the two, considering your Avatar(and your past avatar).
 

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I'm kind of surprised. I figured you'd have a preference for one of the two, considering your Avatar(and your past avatar).
I have been so disgusted with Trump's handling of the COVID-19 crisis that I have decided not to vote for him.
I live in a red state, so I'm not thinking it really matters. But I refuse to add my vote to giving him a mandate if he wins, or an excuse to contest the election if he loses.
 

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The Election itself? Not at all, I'm fully confident Biden will get enough votes to win. The war afterwards, and Trump and the GOP shutting down the election and declaring the Democracy over? Yeah pretty damn worried about that, especially because the repeated line for why Trump won't overthrow the election has been "Boy howdy lets hope he doesn't."
Even if the government stands and somehow Biden is allowed to take the oath of office, I don't think the nation will ever be the same. We're going to have entire states that don't recognize the president as valid, entire branches of Government that won't recognize the president as valid, and thousands if not more armed militants who truly, in their heart of hearts, think its their patriotic duty to kill Democrats and retake the country from Liberals. I think we're gonna be looking at a lot of attacks, shootings, assassinations, mass armed protests and I wouldn't put it past Trump cultists to storm the White House with guns and a shoot-out takes place in an attempt to kill Biden or Harris.
And this is to say nothing of what Trump will do if he loses and actually leaves office. He'll set up a fake oval office and do 'presidential' addresses where he orders the GOP to do X or Y, and they'll listen to him. He'll be a president in exile, without the exile part. He'll just assume the role of the second president and 40% of the country will listen to him.
 
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Tangentially related: I think you and I are from the same state, so I wanted to get your thoughts on the ballot referendums we are voting on.
 

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Tangentially related: I think you and I are from the same state, so I wanted to get your thoughts on the ballot referendums we are voting on.
On the first referendum if I understand it correctly its about imposing term limits on the Lt. Governor, Secretary of State, Auditor and the Attorney General. I'm fully in favor of it and I will vote yes.

The second referendum pisses me off:
  • Ban gifts from paid lobbyists to legislators and their employees;
  • Reduce legislative campaign contribution limits;
  • Change the redistricting process voters approved in 2018 by: (i) transferring responsibility for drawing state legislative districts from the Nonpartisan State Demographer to Governor-appointed bipartisan commissions; (ii) modifying and reordering the redistricting criteria.
So the first one is limit money in campaigns, great. Second one is limit money in campaigns, fantastic! The third is allow jerrymandering. They're trying to slip it in past us by putting two great carrots before it and hoping old people don't read the third provision and just vote yet. But I will be voting no.
 

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On the first referendum if I understand it correctly its about imposing term limits on the Lt. Governor, Secretary of State, Auditor and the Attorney General. I'm fully in favor of it and I will vote yes.

The second referendum pisses me off:
  • Ban gifts from paid lobbyists to legislators and their employees;
  • Reduce legislative campaign contribution limits;
  • Change the redistricting process voters approved in 2018 by: (i) transferring responsibility for drawing state legislative districts from the Nonpartisan State Demographer to Governor-appointed bipartisan commissions; (ii) modifying and reordering the redistricting criteria.
So the first one is limit money in campaigns, great. Second one is limit money in campaigns, fantastic! The third is allow jerrymandering. They're trying to slip it in past us by putting two great carrots before it and hoping old people don't read the third provision and just vote yet. But I will be voting no.
Aren’t they already gerrymandered? Shouldn’t the gerrymandering be out of politicians hands?
 

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Aren’t they already gerrymandered? Shouldn’t the gerrymandering be out of politicians hands?
They are currently lizards, yes. But in 2018 we passed a referendum with the upcoming census in mind to fix that. The new referendum is about undoing that fix and letting the Governor, Mike Parson, a man about as popular as a pedophile in a daycare center, decide who gets to redraw the map.
 

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On the first referendum if I understand it correctly its about imposing term limits on the Lt. Governor, Secretary of State, Auditor and the Attorney General. I'm fully in favor of it and I will vote yes.

The second referendum pisses me off:
  • Ban gifts from paid lobbyists to legislators and their employees;
  • Reduce legislative campaign contribution limits;
  • Change the redistricting process voters approved in 2018 by: (i) transferring responsibility for drawing state legislative districts from the Nonpartisan State Demographer to Governor-appointed bipartisan commissions; (ii) modifying and reordering the redistricting criteria.
So the first one is limit money in campaigns, great. Second one is limit money in campaigns, fantastic! The third is allow jerrymandering. They're trying to slip it in past us by putting two great carrots before it and hoping old people don't read the third provision and just vote yet. But I will be voting no.
Yeah that's how I'll be voting, too.

the Governor, Mike Parson, a man about as popular as a pedophile in a daycare center
I don't know if I'd go that far: He's winning in the polls I've seen.
 

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They are currently lizards, yes. But in 2018 we passed a referendum with the upcoming census in mind to fix that. The new referendum is about undoing that fix and letting the Governor, Mike Parson, a man about as popular as a pedophile in a daycare center, decide who gets to redraw the map.
How was the... ‘gerrymandering’ (or maybe anti-) commission chair picked from the 2018 referendum?
 

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LOL, the democrats in the 10th congressional district in Ohio are paying 15 an hour to phonebank, hilarious.
 

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This is an interesting sentiment.

Even people on this forum speak about what they fear will happen if the Left gets into power. Higher taxes, Women having more say with their bodies, 'restrictions' in business.

Meanwhile, Republicans are riding around in Trump Trains, armed sometimes and being disorderly.

The Right is worried about Possible Socialism. The Left is worrying about Mad freaking Max.
 

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Rather worried. It's not at all about rioting or whatever, it's about future policies and the outcome. I don't want another 4 years of Trump and what that would entail. I don't want to think of what kind of dumb BS he'll get up to if he loses and is feeling spiteful either, with the help of his stupid pet turtle.
It probably won't matter, because Wall Street will prefer the same as what had been in place since 1982.
 

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America tomorrow:
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Honestly, even though my "she was right!" post a couple of months ago may indicate otherwise, I'm not actually too worried about this election, at least anymore so than my usual low-grade anxiety about life, the universe, and everything in it.
 

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Goddamit.

 

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Goddamit.

Does this surprise you, after four years of Trump firing everyone who ever told him "no" and replacing them with drooling lapdogs?
 

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Goddamit.

Oh no who could have expected this from your dear leader