I suggest you watch the Super Mario Brother's Movie, it was a documentary exploring this exact scenario.Drake the Dragonheart said:Let's just for a moment kick around what this planet would look like if the dinosaurs hadn't been wiped out.
I suggest you watch the Super Mario Brother's Movie, it was a documentary exploring this exact scenario.Drake the Dragonheart said:Let's just for a moment kick around what this planet would look like if the dinosaurs hadn't been wiped out.
They weren't even giant, were they? I'm pretty sure the raptors they based the movie critters on were like, knee-high to be generous.Remus said:For people who draw their knowledge from the Jurassic Park films, raptors would seem the obvious choice. but the reality is that raptors were equivalent to giant chickens.
Yeah. Here's a comparison I pulled up from Wikipedia, which included the utahraptor. Deinonychus was what the films were aiming for but that name doesn't roll off the tongue like "velociraptor".Zachary Amaranth said:They weren't even giant, were they? I'm pretty sure the raptors they based the movie critters on were like, knee-high to be generous.Remus said:For people who draw their knowledge from the Jurassic Park films, raptors would seem the obvious choice. but the reality is that raptors were equivalent to giant chickens.
Weren't the movie dinos more physically sized like dinonychus? I possibly spelled that wrong.
True, raptor is much easier to say.Remus said:Yeah. Here's a comparison I pulled up from Wikipedia, which included the utahraptor. Deinonychus was what the films were aiming for but that name doesn't roll off the tongue like "velociraptor".
Fair enough. To be honest, if a bunch of dinosaurs were dropped on earth right now, I think that tree dwelling animals like apes, monkeys and some cats would do alright.Strazdas said:Thats fair, dinosaurs would not allow apes to exist to begin with. but if by some chance apes did exist, like, say, on a seperate continent, then dino wars could happen, hurrrR Man said:First of all Dinosaurs did not go extinct. Avian dinosaurs still exist, and their are actually more species of avian dinosaur than mammal species.
Err... no. If non-avian dinosaurs did not go extinct, then there are no apes. At all. Therefore no humans. Archarosaur selection pressure would continue impact on mammal evolution as it had done for most of the Mesozoic.Strazdas said:two possible solutions: either dinosaurs continue to rule the world as they did, largely unchanged due to lack of competition or apes manage to survive and evovle into humans, possibly speeding it up even more as we got even larger predators to defend agast, which would likely mean we would have had less wars and more "dino hunts" in our history, and would have hunted them into extinction. Just like we did mammoths.
Crocodilians are reletives of the dinosaurs, but Komodo Dragons are not relatives of Dinosaurs. Birds of course, are direct descendants of Therepod dinosaurs.Aren't Crocks, gators and Comodo Dragon's kinda still Dinosaurs?
Your dating seems to be a little of. T. rex and Triceratops lived in the Cretaceous. Sauropods evolved after the Triassic. And they did not go extinct at the end of the Jurassic. Titanosaur finds in Australia and South America indicate that sauropods survived well into the Cretaceous.But their time was kinda on the Jurassic anyway; the biggest sauropodes went extinct before the Triassic (when dinosaurs like T-rex or Triceratops lived.)
This is extremely unlikely if not impossible, as DNA will not survive that long in the enviroment.wombat_of_war said:there is a guy in the usa who is trying to reverse engineer them from the dormant dna. kind of trippy to see chickens with teeth and scaley legs
Dinosaurs aren't reptiles. there is no evidence they where cold blooded either, i am wondering where you got that from.Thedutchjelle said:This is extremely unlikely if not impossible, as DNA will not survive that long in the enviroment.wombat_of_war said:there is a guy in the usa who is trying to reverse engineer them from the dormant dna. kind of trippy to see chickens with teeth and scaley legs
EDIT: Wait, I think I know what you meant. You mean, reverse engineer them from the chicken DNA to "go back"? That's an interesting way of doing it.. but there's a lot of DNA changed in >65 million years. I wonder how far back they can go and still have viable offspring (probably not very far at all).
OT: I doubt the current climate is warm enough for large cold-blooded reptiles like dinosaurs, atleast in most of the Northern hemisphere. All the bigger ones will probably have gone extinct or only be around in Africa or Australia.
I also doubt mammals would've blossomed as much as they did with gigantic flesh eating carnivores still roaming around.
Oh! I always thought they were.Hoplon said:Dinosaurs aren't reptiles. there is no evidence they where cold blooded either, i am wondering where you got that from.Thedutchjelle said:This is extremely unlikely if not impossible, as DNA will not survive that long in the enviroment.wombat_of_war said:there is a guy in the usa who is trying to reverse engineer them from the dormant dna. kind of trippy to see chickens with teeth and scaley legs
EDIT: Wait, I think I know what you meant. You mean, reverse engineer them from the chicken DNA to "go back"? That's an interesting way of doing it.. but there's a lot of DNA changed in >65 million years. I wonder how far back they can go and still have viable offspring (probably not very far at all).
OT: I doubt the current climate is warm enough for large cold-blooded reptiles like dinosaurs, atleast in most of the Northern hemisphere. All the bigger ones will probably have gone extinct or only be around in Africa or Australia.
I also doubt mammals would've blossomed as much as they did with gigantic flesh eating carnivores still roaming around.
Yeah that's fine, sorry for being so abrupt. They are probably lizard off shoots and lizards existed before and at the same time, dinosaurs then spawned birds as an off shoot.Thedutchjelle said:Oh! I always thought they were.
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Can I blame their portrayal in the popular media? They always draw them like big reptiles.. I guess that's how it got stuck in my head.
I'll try to remember that so I won't mess that up next time, thanks. Now I really want to see arctic dinosaurs
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Drake the Dragonheart said:Let's just for a moment kick around what this planet would look like if the dinosaurs hadn't been wiped out.
Well for starters, there would likely be less of us. ALOT less of us probably. Actually, I don't think we would be the dominant species anymore. That or we would all be velociraptors.
we might see the dinosaur humanoids from Journey to the Center of the Earth (the older one with Treat Williams, though I also like the newer one with Brendan Fraser).
Let's have a look at those velociraptors. Just the thought of them not being extinct alone is scary. From what we can examine, they were already clever SOB's. speed, stealth, agility, natural weaponry, pack tactics, and supposedly they could vocalize. Now give them 65 million years to evolve over. Say, apposable thumbs. sentience. tool use. Now I am imagining a raptor that shoots prey with a bow then closes in to kill with talons and teeth. That and they would probably not lose their pack mentality either. so a pack that peppers a target with arrows and then moves in and takes them down. Yeah ok I am very glad dinos aren't around!
Tyrannosaurus. Might evolve to have powerful muscular arms with grasping hands. Yikes!
How might the herbivores evolve though? what would happen to say the triceratops that has to now deal with the two afformentioned predators?
This sounds almost like an evolutionary arms race.