They also have a blind rabid army of trolls who will scream and retard out as hard as they can if they try to, you know, run a business. The difference between us is I get how economics works. They offer a product or service I want and so I purchase it. Once they cease to do that I will cease purchasing.this isnt my name said:
How's Dragon Age 2 treating you?
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Oh you got me... here I was thinking I was clever, buying the preorder that offered the most content at the lowest cost... what a fool I was with my basic numeracy skills.this isnt my name said:
I just met Merrill. I'm in love. 
Not sure how I feel about the button mashing, but the combat is much more engaging because of it. On the flip side, if you're not careful and get caught up in the moment, you could end up distracted and dead.
Not sure how I feel about the button mashing, but the combat is much more engaging because of it. On the flip side, if you're not careful and get caught up in the moment, you could end up distracted and dead.
I personally miss all the extra conversations with my teammates. Just sitting at the campsite and having hours of dialogue with my companions and such. It's still there, but only when the characters themselves wish to initiate it. I'm not saying that the characters are awful or anything, they are each unique in their own way. I just miss having random rambles with them whenever I felt like it.
So far though, I do love it.
So far though, I do love it.
No....just....no.Maraveno said:
The dialog in DA1 was exactly what was said. There was no character voice, so you said what you selected. In DA2, there are some chat options where the words in text aren't even said. It's just an extremely over-simplified summary of it.
There are not more spells, feel free to count them all.
Every review out there claims the city to be boring and bland. Don't claim your "opinion" is any more valid than mine about this. The city is boring, and nowhere near DA1 in terms of depth.
The skills are simplified, removed, or combined. You seem to not trust me, so go ahead and read some reviews. They all claim the exact same thing. Maybe you didn't play DA1 deep enough.
You're just a fanboy who for some reason feels the need to insult people for their opinions. Thanks for calling me a "nutter". It really makes you look mature.
Just not a good game, not much I can say that others haven't and hasn't been said in reviews. The biggest drawback is the idiotic world set up. You unlock some areas in one city and a few areas around it and then those are the only places you can go....really? I just keep visiting these same areas the whole time, it's just not fun or epic or engaging.
None of the allies were interesting to me, at least not nearly as much as Mass Effect or Origins, in those i would find out everything about my companions and it was fun, not DA2.
The other big problem was the story...there was no overarching story, unless I missed it? In fact after getting 15 hours into the game, I hadn't seen a single Darkspawn since leaving for Kirkwall. I just ran around doing these stupid quests, almost none of them were actually interesting.
None of the allies were interesting to me, at least not nearly as much as Mass Effect or Origins, in those i would find out everything about my companions and it was fun, not DA2.
The other big problem was the story...there was no overarching story, unless I missed it? In fact after getting 15 hours into the game, I hadn't seen a single Darkspawn since leaving for Kirkwall. I just ran around doing these stupid quests, almost none of them were actually interesting.
I like how you say you've counted them, but don't actually give me a number....Dragon Age Origins has over 100. I've yet to see a spell screen from DA1 with over 100 spells on it. And no, Dragon Age 2 does not have all the spells from Origins. The entire Arcane Warrior line isn't there, and I don't think Battlemage is there either....so stop making things up. If you insist to keep doing so, I'll prove you wrong when I'm off of work and I can get in game to take screenshots.Maraveno said:
Taken from Gamespot's review since you think I'm making things up.
Are you going to try and tell me that gamespot is wrong and all of the above really is in the game?
You can disagree with me about the game's quality. But don't flat out lie, because you'll end up looking stupid when you're proven wrong.
P.S. lrn2punctuate
I'll just say that I'm enjoying the combat a lot. I'm playing on nightmare and this game is way, way harder than DAO on that same level. The complaints about this being a hack&slash must be coming from people who haven't went beyond normal difficulty tbh.
Combat requires tactical finesse but still delivers action-wise on nightmare.
If you misplace your rogue or caster, he'll get knocked back constantly by enemy melee users and archers making it so he / she will die without being able to do anything, so positioning is pretty vital.
Some random fights will rape your ass a couple of times before you get them because another group of enemies that you didn't expect spawns on top of the first group and you weren't prepared.
I just fought an (optional) dragon boss at level 9 that took me 10 tries to get through and a different party set up. I ended up kiting away the last 10% of its health with my rogue switching to a bow and it felt like I had beaten some sort of raid boss in an MMO when it went down.
However, the game also has some problems that are likely caused by rushing the release: aoe targeting on PC is hell, there are frequent hiccups (though manageable) etc.
Companion characters also aren't as deep and engaging as they were in Origins and I'm not convinced by the fixed armor sets for them, I have to vendor tons of items because of that.
You also visit the same areas a lot of times, more variety would really do well. This is also caused by the game taking place entirely in one area of the Dragon Age world however.
Combat requires tactical finesse but still delivers action-wise on nightmare.
If you misplace your rogue or caster, he'll get knocked back constantly by enemy melee users and archers making it so he / she will die without being able to do anything, so positioning is pretty vital.
Some random fights will rape your ass a couple of times before you get them because another group of enemies that you didn't expect spawns on top of the first group and you weren't prepared.
I just fought an (optional) dragon boss at level 9 that took me 10 tries to get through and a different party set up. I ended up kiting away the last 10% of its health with my rogue switching to a bow and it felt like I had beaten some sort of raid boss in an MMO when it went down.
However, the game also has some problems that are likely caused by rushing the release: aoe targeting on PC is hell, there are frequent hiccups (though manageable) etc.
Companion characters also aren't as deep and engaging as they were in Origins and I'm not convinced by the fixed armor sets for them, I have to vendor tons of items because of that.
You also visit the same areas a lot of times, more variety would really do well. This is also caused by the game taking place entirely in one area of the Dragon Age world however.
It's a great game overall, my only real complaint is that most of the places (caves, houses) are copy pasted. Seems pretty lazy on Biowares part.
I love the game, the combat is much smoother, unlike in Da 1, where you always felt like you need one tactic to beat them all, spawning spells and skills for minutes for some fights and as soon as you just made one mistake you went down the drain not to mention the many luck chances that made a sure way to win into a sure way to loose, now combat is still a challenge, but heck is much more forgiving, but still, if you run blindly in Bows blazing and sword hacking you will loose anyway.
Like the fact that the spells now show the radius around them and in fact love the skill system with its upgrades to certain spells and with the character specific skills, instead of this "approve" skill bullshit they pulled in the first game.I like the Rival and friend System as well, it actually made the game better, now you are not constantly thinking "omg will this answer lower the approval of char x and make me loose his skill", no you can finally play and say the way you want to play and if that happens to turn other chars in rivals, well they won't leave and they still get a skill for it.
I "kinda" miss the camping site, but you still can visit and talk to other chars, so it is just split up a bit, characters still talk to each other and even have some cut scenes here and there.
I haven't played that long for now, just around 6 or 7 hours, but I agree the story is slow, however I like it that way, I hate all those Rpg's where you are the HERO and there is noone except YOU, who can save EVERYONE from >insert game endboss here<.
Its a story about survival, getting used to a new place and living and learning there, I think there is a lot more behind this story than many people give it credit for.
For the trap and poison making and such, honestly who ~ever~ used the trap skill to build a trap, who used poisons, warming salves and all that crap?
The now centralized and much easier access to the system still require to explore the maps, but you don't need to run around looking for a freaking elfroot, because you just used it up, but you desperately need one for a quest, to get a few exp. Points.
Like the fact that the spells now show the radius around them and in fact love the skill system with its upgrades to certain spells and with the character specific skills, instead of this "approve" skill bullshit they pulled in the first game.I like the Rival and friend System as well, it actually made the game better, now you are not constantly thinking "omg will this answer lower the approval of char x and make me loose his skill", no you can finally play and say the way you want to play and if that happens to turn other chars in rivals, well they won't leave and they still get a skill for it.
I "kinda" miss the camping site, but you still can visit and talk to other chars, so it is just split up a bit, characters still talk to each other and even have some cut scenes here and there.
I haven't played that long for now, just around 6 or 7 hours, but I agree the story is slow, however I like it that way, I hate all those Rpg's where you are the HERO and there is noone except YOU, who can save EVERYONE from >insert game endboss here<.
Its a story about survival, getting used to a new place and living and learning there, I think there is a lot more behind this story than many people give it credit for.
For the trap and poison making and such, honestly who ~ever~ used the trap skill to build a trap, who used poisons, warming salves and all that crap?
The now centralized and much easier access to the system still require to explore the maps, but you don't need to run around looking for a freaking elfroot, because you just used it up, but you desperately need one for a quest, to get a few exp. Points.
The one comment that I can make is that this game feels like a Dragon Age game. There are some minor differences but this game is soooo much more like its predecessor (which I loved so that's a good thing) than say ME1 and ME2.
Shit, is anyone actually playing this game and judging it on it's own merits instead of complaining how much it isn't DA:O?
Mind you, this is a breath of fresh air compared to the official forums. You've got fuckers over there actually threatening lawsuits over the removal of auto-attack from console play. Seriously, go have a look, it's the funniest fucking thing I've ever seen.
Herbalism: Under or unused. Fuck wasting points in crafting when your DPS can use another tactic slot. One sidequest which gave you fucking nothing for it. (Sick dwarf) Plus healing potions are plentiful and fucking cheap.
Trap-making: Fucking useless unless you were wallhacking blizzard or playing an archer, in which case you're a fucking retard in the first place. One sidequest, again, which gave you nothing. (Timid broad in Lothering)
Poison making: I never had to craft a single damn poison in the whole game. In fact so much poison dropped that I was vendor trashing half of it by the last 3rd.
Stealing: Fucking broken, not to mention never produced anything worth wasting the points on.
Survival: +damage to the least threatening class of enemy in the entire fucking game. Oh... And again, another useless sidequest.
Coercion: Lies. Coercion still shows as special dialogue options based on cunning.
Runecrafting: Thank raptor jesus that got an overhaul. Runecrafting was the most arbitrary, frustrating excuse for a coinsink in that entire expansion. I deliberately avoided the majority of the epic equipment quests because of how much runecrafting was needed.
So they cut down their broken and or useless skills and crafting, just like they said they were going to, and this is a BAD thing? Am I missing something here?
(Also, half of the QQ on this and related threads would hold a lot more weight if it wasn't prefaced by "I haven't played the game yet but according to what I've read...")
Mind you, this is a breath of fresh air compared to the official forums. You've got fuckers over there actually threatening lawsuits over the removal of auto-attack from console play. Seriously, go have a look, it's the funniest fucking thing I've ever seen.
OK Gamestop, let's look at your examples from DA:O/A.
Herbalism: Under or unused. Fuck wasting points in crafting when your DPS can use another tactic slot. One sidequest which gave you fucking nothing for it. (Sick dwarf) Plus healing potions are plentiful and fucking cheap.
Trap-making: Fucking useless unless you were wallhacking blizzard or playing an archer, in which case you're a fucking retard in the first place. One sidequest, again, which gave you nothing. (Timid broad in Lothering)
Poison making: I never had to craft a single damn poison in the whole game. In fact so much poison dropped that I was vendor trashing half of it by the last 3rd.
Stealing: Fucking broken, not to mention never produced anything worth wasting the points on.
Survival: +damage to the least threatening class of enemy in the entire fucking game. Oh... And again, another useless sidequest.
Coercion: Lies. Coercion still shows as special dialogue options based on cunning.
Runecrafting: Thank raptor jesus that got an overhaul. Runecrafting was the most arbitrary, frustrating excuse for a coinsink in that entire expansion. I deliberately avoided the majority of the epic equipment quests because of how much runecrafting was needed.
So they cut down their broken and or useless skills and crafting, just like they said they were going to, and this is a BAD thing? Am I missing something here?
(Also, half of the QQ on this and related threads would hold a lot more weight if it wasn't prefaced by "I haven't played the game yet but according to what I've read...")
Oh my god man...would you let it go already?Maraveno said:
My whole point was that the game was dumbed down. Spells WERE removed, they were. There is no denying that. Skills were also removed, you cannot deny that. I don't care if you didn't like the skills, some people did.
You don't seem to speak English very well, so I'm just going to stop replying. I have a feeling your either not comprehending everything I'm posting, or you're not able to properly say what you mean.
I have played the game quite a bit...I don't know why you're assuming that I haven't.Timmibal said:
And I don't care if you say the skills were useless to you. I and many other people used the skills in Origins. What is the point in removing something that was optional in the first place? The only reason would be to dumb down the game so casual players don't get confused and quit.
All I see is some people mad that someone doesn't like a game they do. Let it go.
Beat it. Unhappy with it. Disappointed video game companies don't believe in refunds for dissatisfied customers.
All of the maps in the game are reused at least once. Instead of having a bunch of unique areas for you to explore, you explore the same 20 or so prefabricated maps with different door layouts. The dialogue is as wordy as ever, but I find it less compelling than ME2 or the original DA, and more or less skipped through it all with little loss.
Combat was somewhat fun for a little while, but once leveling slowed down a great deal it became an endless grind against meaningless enemies that may as well have just keeled over and dropped loot when they saw you, and the occasional battle against something that took more than Backstab - Twin Strike - Assassinate to kill.
All of the maps in the game are reused at least once. Instead of having a bunch of unique areas for you to explore, you explore the same 20 or so prefabricated maps with different door layouts. The dialogue is as wordy as ever, but I find it less compelling than ME2 or the original DA, and more or less skipped through it all with little loss.
Combat was somewhat fun for a little while, but once leveling slowed down a great deal it became an endless grind against meaningless enemies that may as well have just keeled over and dropped loot when they saw you, and the occasional battle against something that took more than Backstab - Twin Strike - Assassinate to kill.
They removed complexity, removed armor customization features from allies, removed some skills, summarized the dialog options, have the entire game set in one area instead of multiple like the original, and made combat easier.....Maraveno said:
Sorry, but that is the definition of dumbing down.