Da Orky Man said:
Strazdas said:
There is no theoretical proof that a type 0 civilization can ever become type 1 civilization, so dont get your hopes up.
Just 500 years ago, we used firewood for fuel, fought with swords and pike, and had a life expectancy of about 40 years. Now we use uranium for fuel, fight with EM waves and information, and have a life expectancy of about 80 years. Every 10 years our knowledge base doubles. We've sent probes out of our solar system into interstellar space.
I suspect we will acheive type 1 within time.
The advances we have made were very small in the grand scale, and it is all technological and not spiritual. we are nowhere close type 1.
Robert Ewing said:
I believe human will experience a mass population drop for the reasons you gave OP. But let's face it... It's extremely unlikely humanity will go extinct. We are the first species with this sort of intelligence. And we're the first species that has the means in which to prepare for this kind of thing. There are many places in the world with this scenario in mind. There is a bunker in Russia with the seeds of all plant life recorded on Earth. Just in case an ecosystem collapses. We have DNA and resilient equipment, just in case a vital species goes extinct. We have fuck loads of life support machines, and plenty of electric generators to make them work.
Humanity will definitely survive a planetary disaster. No matter how many people are killed, I'm willing to bet at least 50,000 will survive.
The scenario in which I'm NOT sure humanity will survive, is if the sun decides it doesn't like us. That could ruin us royally, beware the sun.
But then again, Imagine if all the worlds economies combined and only funded one almighty space program? It could save us.
The preparations is good. however it does not save us for, say, nuclear winter or the start going supernova and hitting us with one of its tails (we wouldnt see it coming, we would be evaporated in an instatnt, there is ALWAYS a chance this will happen any second. no use panicking about it).
Space exploration and space colonization is very far from eachother. there is a reason they didnt build moonbase.
Istri said:
Well, not quite. I just said some random generalization. I know that oil won't probably last that long, probably not even half that time. The idea itself of ending of "oil era", that is presumed to be in 50 years. It's not that there will be oil for 50 years, it's use will be probably restrained in a decade or so. After that, who knows. Maybe synthetic oil, or absolutely new material. Time tells, people, time tells.
This i can agree with. well plant-oil we already have. but they are trying to kill it. we can also run on helium. there are some cars that do that. also there is a Thorium lasers [http://www.txchnologist.com/2011/the-thorium-laser-the-completely-plausible-idea-for-nuclear-cars]. a very plausible idea of having a nuclear reactor in a car that cant go boom. and good think about nuclear fuel, we have enough of it to last thousands of years even if you produce 100% of energy from it, and they are totally environmentally safe. correctly working nuclear plant does 0 damage to environment.
also dont forget zombies. this may look funny now, but there are reasons how zombie like plague can really happen. we already have zombie roden in existence.
If we manage to work out space travel, then we'll likely survive until the universe ends. The greater and farther we spread out, the less likely any one event would wipe us out.
Or maybe the fact that we would evolve over billions of years would mean that the human race, as it stands now, would die out? I mean, not that we'd notice as we'd be... human 2.0, but still. Philosophically, yea
except for war with aliens who have a technology to make planets go boom.
as for evolving into another being, we have done that in the past, so this is definitely possible. after all, we dont call our ancestors we evolved from humans. we only call homo sapiens sapiens humans.
