Human survival past 2012

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ragestreet

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How are we going to do it? I think if we don't do something about global warming, the almost constant in-fighting as a species, and if we don't focus more on space exploration, the human race is screwed even if the world doesn't somehow end in 3 years.
 

Dele

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We obviously need to have more sex. The more of us there are the better our chances for survival.
 

Do4600

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Easy, don't die before or after 2012, it's an arbitrary number, the world will probably not change that much in 3 years just like 2006 to 2009. Just more annoying ABC TV line-ups.
 

Booze Zombie

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perfectimo said:
The same way we have for the last X amount of years.

X = existance of humankind.
I'm sorry, was that meant to make me laugh that much? I nearly passed out.
 

Abedeus

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Because Maya calendar ends on 21 december 2012. And some retar... people with too much time think it's because world will end.

Newsflash - they just got bored of making new calendars and stopped at 2012, assuming they won't live by then anymore?
 

Cahlee

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As I see it, space exploration is necessary, even if we fix global warming and start using renewable energy sources the Earth and/or the sun will eventually die. So we'll have to go find another inhabitable planet to throttle.

But yes, right now. RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCES!
 

Dele

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Cahlee said:
As I see it, space exploration is necessary, even if we fix global warming and start using renewable energy sources the Earth and/or the sun will eventually die. So we'll have to go find another inhabitable planet to throttle.

But yes, right now. RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCES!
Nuclear power is practically a renewable energy source if used correctly.
 

Rednog

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People have been calling the end of humanity for a long long time, if you truly think that the world will end in 2012 then by all means hide in a bunker with supplies. I personally am going to party hard and am going to play my odds that if the apocalypse does come I'll probably be one of the people who die no matter where they are.
 

ParkourMcGhee

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wellh, I know England's gonna preserve the world at least until their precious Olympic games, but to kill it right afterwards? they can't lose THAT badly to the Chinese display can they? o0

Abedeus said:
Because Maya calendar ends on 21 december 2012. And some retar... people with too much time think it's because world will end.

Newsflash - they just got bored of making new calendars and stopped at 2012, assuming they won't live by then anymore?
Well they were right ;)
 

falcontwin

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2 2012 threads in one weekend nice. no the world won't end in 2012. After we survive 2012 the next year the world will end is 2022 because it's got lots of 2's in it after that it will be 2044 becuase it's a sort of multiple of 2. I do not know why people keep wanting the world to end but they need to chill out and get on with life rather than thinking they are the last gasp of humanity the world will ever see.
 

mipegg

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Snowbilby, how do you know? Climatology is an art at best, we know nearly nothing about how the earth works and the majority of the evidence that 'supports' global warming seems to just be pushed in everyone's face so they can accept it. http://www.coyoteblog.com/photos/uncategorized/hockeystick.gif The original graph (without the trend lines or mans impact point) was used by Al Gore and Iv seen it in many places else to try 'prove' global warming to me. As you can see, carbon and temperature in the atmosphere dont have a particularly strong correlation by that, the carbon value doubled yet temperature stayed the same at the end, as the person who edited the graph also shows, carbon was increasing at a rapid rate before humanity came about. Why would it create a 50 year time lag? It would be nearly instantly snowbilby, you put carbon in the atmosphere it traps heat, the more thats there the more heat is trapped (I dont dispute this), maybe the '50 year rule' is just used to hope that something in the climate will change in 50 years so environmentalists can point at it and go 'look'.

Global warming caused by humans is an extremely fuzzy thing to me and the fact that for the time the earths been about there has been no icecaps more frequently than they have been there seems to suggest something. Humans have also always fought amongst themselves, yes we have bigger weapons now but I highly doubt anyone is going to use a nuke.
 

Abedeus

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We still have few hundreds millions years till Sun starts expanding. Then we will die.

Or inhabit another planet.

falcontwin said:
2 2012 threads in one weekend nice. no the world won't end in 2012. After we survive 2012 the next year the world will end is 2022 because it's got lots of 2's in it after that it will be 2044 becuase it's a sort of multiple of 2. I do not know why people keep wanting the world to end but they need to chill out and get on with life rather than thinking they are the last gasp of humanity the world will ever see.
Actually, world is going to end after 2012 in 2020. Don't know, why, but hey, it was going to end in 1000.
 

Portkins

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Let's get a little off-topic here, how's the earth going to survive in 3000? (Don't go all futurama on me)

At the rate technology is going, sure, we'll get to X, but how will we survive there? Can science create oxygen out of dirt? Can they make water of the Dirt-Oxygen? How will we contain enough fuel to reach X? Considering current conventional Astronautics, it's nearly impossible to reach anything but our own moon, which is barely a leap and a skip away from us. If things do start to happen, people will rush all of thier funds into Astrontical engineering, trying to escape it. Eventually, it will/not work and we'll all Float in space forever/Die a painful, quick death. And with 'Float in space', we still have a chance to be discovered by a malicious/freindly race of otherworlders who are more/less advanced than us, and decide to slaughter/befreind us and integrate our societies/rape our women and hang our entrails on thier trophy-racks.

Either way it calls for an utter renovation of Astronautical stuff, seeing as the current stuff would require more fuel, which is a near impossibility if you actually want PEOPLE on the shuttles.

Then again, we've got Plasma and Ion thrusters. Expensive, sure. Powerful, sorta.

Still, then we've got to get the Hydrogen, Xenon or whatever element your thrusters run on to get off the planet, which would weigh you down at first. And again, sure we can go to 'X', but how will be survive?

Edit: I'm talking about Mars-esque planets here.

Edit 2: I'm praying they figure how to reorganize atoms to create new elements with little to no effort, honestly.