Humanity and the Protheans (a Mass Effect topic)

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Booze Zombie

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I've posted a topic on humanity and the Protheans on the Mass Effect forums, meeting an incredibly hostile response, surprisingly.

I think I'll try it again here, where people are slightly less... dumb, to be quite frank.

It seems to be there is some kind of link between the "extinct" Prothean race and the Human race (in Mass Effect, obviously).
The game hints at this a number of times, with a scene where you view the memories of a human through a Prothean artifact, Reaper made "dragon teeth" only "zombifying" humans (and Protheans, according to the history learnt during the plot), a plot point where it is stated that a small group of surviving Protheans made it to The Citadel but their fate is unknown.

To me, these seem like subtle hints that that the surviving Proteans genetically spliced their genes into humanity so their species would live on, breeding into us and becoming inspiration for legends of monsters, Gods, demons and such.

What do you guys think?
 

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Certainly plausible. Though, if this was intended, this would not be the first sci-fi series to do it. Say, Halo did the same thing. Forerunners, Humans, same things, blah blah.

Please provide the link to your topic on the Mass Effect forum. I want to laugh at the stupid responses. ^.^
 

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TheFacelessOne said:
Certainly plausible. Though, if this was intended, this would not be the first sci-fi series to do it. Say, Halo did the same thing. Forerunners, Humans, same things, blah blah.

Please provide the link to your topic on the Mass Effect forum. I want to laugh at the stupid responses. ^.^
Perhaps I didn't word it quite so elequently as this version, I'm not sure, but I think people are a lot more insulting on the Mass Effect forums:

http://meforums.bioware.com/viewtopic.html?topic=715522&forum=144&sp=30#7030284

Oh yes, I'm also not allowed to reveal plot points on the ME forums, so that might cause some confusion on there.
 

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It's possible. They did have a research station on Mars to watch us. And they did abduct us, as evidenced by the trinket you get from Xeltan if you use it on a prothean pyramid on one planet.
 

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Booze Zombie said:
TheFacelessOne said:
Certainly plausible. Though, if this was intended, this would not be the first sci-fi series to do it. Say, Halo did the same thing. Forerunners, Humans, same things, blah blah.

Please provide the link to your topic on the Mass Effect forum. I want to laugh at the stupid responses. ^.^
Perhaps I didn't word it quite so elequently as this version, I'm not sure, but I think people are a lot more insulting on the Mass Effect forums:

http://meforums.bioware.com/viewtopic.html?topic=715522&forum=144&sp=30#7030284

Oh yes, I'm also not allowed to reveal plot points on the ME forums, so that might cause some confusion on there.
Poop. I was hoping for some retarded responses. Talk about a let down. Still, they were unnecessarily hostile. It's like slapping someone because they gave you a cookie.
 
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This is slightly off-topic, but is anyone else tired of "the ones that came before" type sci-fi story lines?

OT:I'm sure if your correct the sequel will either outright tell you or give you subtle hints.
 

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philosophicalbastard said:
This is slightly off-topic, but is anyone else tired of "the ones that came before" type sci-fi story lines?

OT:I'm sure if your correct the sequel will either outright tell you or give you subtle hints.
Well, actually, the Prothean artifact would indicate that we existed as a seprate species whilst the Protheans went around being scientific.

It's not so much "the ones that came before us", so much as "those aliens that came and genetically altered us during our 'primitive' stage".

TheFacelessOne said:
Poop. I was hoping for some retarded responses. Talk about a let down. Still, they were unnecessarily hostile. It's like slapping someone because they gave you a cookie.
Perhaps I should've thrown some Halo slang in there?

"Yo, fags wha' ya'll think o' this?!"
 

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It could be that the artifact simply let you view genetic memories, or that they were observing several races, for example there is clear evidence that they screwed around with the Hannar.
 

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Souplex said:
It could be that the artifact simply let you view genetic memories, or that they were observing several races, for example there is clear evidence that they screwed around with the Hannar.
Probably not in the same way, though.
Maybe humanity was genetically similar to the Protheans, at least, more so than the Hannar.
 

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Well... The Protheans were kinda alive during the whole Stone Age Era for humans. Anyone remember that artifact that 'gave' you the memories of that man that was being tracked all his life? If the Reapers kill all life, the Stone Age humans would have gone with it. Which suggests our crazy alien friends were watching "The Humans" after the attack.

So... It's possible.
 

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Well in the one mission to clear some Asari's good name she gives you a pendant as a reward and if you take it to the planet with the space monkey you find an artifact you use the pendant on and you see the life of a cave-man and see he gets visited by Protheans so they helped humans evolve which is where the connection is
 

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Booze Zombie said:
Well, actually, the Prothean artifact would indicate that we existed as a seprate species whilst the Protheans went around being scientific.

It's not so much "the ones that came before us", so much as "those aliens that came and genetically altered us during our 'primitive' stage".
Yet another "uplifted-by-aliens" scenario? On one hand, clearly possible. On the other hand...

[HEADING=3]It's such a cliche! I hate cliches! KILL IT WITH FIRE![/HEADING]

So it's a possible plot twist, but i really really hope it won't happen.

Gather said:
Well... The Protheans were kinda alive during the whole Stone Age Era for humans. Anyone remember that artifact that 'gave' you the memories of that man that was being tracked all his life? If the Reapers kill all life, the Stone Age humans would have gone with it. Which suggests our crazy alien friends were watching "The Humans" after the attack.

So... It's possible.
I think they genocide only technologically advanced civilizations.
 

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I have to say that I highly doubt it. There really is absolutely no evidence in the game to support that.

The group that made it to the citadel eventually died out due to a lack of genetic diversity. They where probably too worried about altering the Keepers "coding" (for lack of a better term) to think about any human gene splicing.

Nice thought though. And yea, those guys on the ME forum where being dicks.

Gather said:
Well... The Protheans were kinda alive during the whole Stone Age Era for humans. Anyone remember that artifact that 'gave' you the memories of that man that was being tracked all his life? If the Reapers kill all life, the Stone Age humans would have gone with it. Which suggests our crazy alien friends were watching "The Humans" after the attack.

So... It's possible.
No, it was before the attack. The reapers only harvest technologically advanced races. Thats why they wait so long between harvests, so that the races can advance far enough. The reason for this has yet to be explained.
 

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Kollega said:
Yet another "uplifted-by-aliens" scenario? On one hand, clearly possible. On the other hand...

[HEADING=3]It's such a cliche! I hate cliches! KILL IT WITH FIRE![/HEADING]

So it's a possible plot twist, but i really really hope it won't happen.
Not uplifted!

Think of it like them keeping their species alive by merging with a different species.
I do not believe there was any uplifting, unless of course the Proteans merging with us gave us that increased brain power and thumbs, but that's highly doubtful.
 

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I think in the future, humanity will travel to distant worlds, uplift alien species ourselves, and then totally rule 34 them.

Hm.

Off to write the screenplay.
 

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No, it was before the attack. The reapers only harvest technologically advanced races. Thats why they wait so long between harvests, so that the races can advance far enough. The reason for this has yet to be explained.
I need to replay it but I thought they said they killed all life... Hm
 
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Booze Zombie said:
philosophicalbastard said:
This is slightly off-topic, but is anyone else tired of "the ones that came before" type sci-fi story lines?

OT:I'm sure if your correct the sequel will either outright tell you or give you subtle hints.
Well, actually, the Prothean artifact would indicate that we existed as a seprate species whilst the Protheans went around being scientific.

It's not so much "the ones that came before us", so much as "those aliens that came and genetically altered us during our 'primitive' stage".
In saying "the ones that came before" I was generally refering to any civilization in the past that was more advanced then the current one, yet mysteriously died out.
 

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philosophicalbastard said:
In saying "the ones that came before" I was generally refering to any civilization in the past that was more advanced then the current one.
In that case, the whole Mass Effect universe is built on that cliche, because that's what the reapers do, mate.

Let everyone get all techy and smart, come in and nom everything in sight and leave, waiting for the next load of "organics" to harvest.
 

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Booze Zombie said:
Not uplifted!

Think of it like them keeping their species alive by merging with a different species.
I do not believe there was any uplifting, unless of course the Proteans merging with us gave us that increased brain power and thumbs, but that's highly doubtful.
I don't really see how does it matter then, if it didn't have any effects on the humanity whatsoever.
 

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Gather said:
No, it was before the attack. The reapers only harvest technologically advanced races. Thats why they wait so long between harvests, so that the races can advance far enough. The reason for this has yet to be explained.
I need to replay it but I thought they said they killed all life... Hm
I think some of the characters in the game do use that term, but we know that the Protheans where studying the Humans and the Hanar prior to the Reapers' attack.