Hypothetical: If you died, and (Let's Assume Christian) God is waiting for you...

[Redingold]

God is not a person with whom you can communicate.

You are aware that this thread is about the Christian god, right? The Christian God is most definitely a person and can be communicated with (or rather, he could be communicated with if he existed).

Then you are completely wrong. God is God. He is not human not even a solid form of being.

No, Christian God is most definitely a person. I don't care what you have to say on the subject, because you can't change what Christians believe or what the Bible says. Maybe your view of God is that he can't be communicated with, but Christians believe that he can be communicated with!

Look, I dont know from what kind of Christian denomination are you but the teachings from my perspective (Eastern Orthodox) support that God is not some old guy up on the clouds, that's science fiction, but a nether form represented by the holy trinity- The father, the Son and the holy ghost. God can be communicated with, but not in any way by physical means
How can you say that God is a person? You know him? Is he a solid for of being, made from matter like me and you? How can you even define God in such a careless way; this is arrogant to say the least.
I'm confident that the bible interpretations in every christian denominations are not that vastly different and that the view on God is not that distorted among newer Dogmas and believers .

Oh, I'm not Christian. I just know that in many parts of the Bible, God speaks to people and they speak to him. Speaking = communication.

 

[AWAR]

God is not a person with whom you can communicate.

You are aware that this thread is about the Christian god, right? The Christian God is most definitely a person and can be communicated with (or rather, he could be communicated with if he existed).

Then you are completely wrong. God is God. He is not human not even a solid form of being.

No, Christian God is most definitely a person. I don't care what you have to say on the subject, because you can't change what Christians believe or what the Bible says. Maybe your view of God is that he can't be communicated with, but Christians believe that he can be communicated with!

Look, I dont know from what kind of Christian denomination are you but the teachings from my perspective (Eastern Orthodox) support that God is not some old guy up on the clouds, that's science fiction, but a nether form represented by the holy trinity- The father, the Son and the holy ghost. God can be communicated with, but not in any way by physical means
How can you say that God is a person? You know him? Is he a solid for of being, made from matter like me and you? How can you even define God in such a careless way; this is arrogant to say the least.
I'm confident that the bible interpretations in every christian denominations are not that vastly different and that the view on God is not that distorted among newer Dogmas and believers .

Oh, I'm not Christian. I just know that in many parts of the Bible, God speaks to people and they speak to him. Speaking = communication.

Then if you are not a Christian why the fuck do you spread nonsense and wasting my time.. You can't even interpret the bible for god's sake..

 

[Redingold]

God is not a person with whom you can communicate.

You are aware that this thread is about the Christian god, right? The Christian God is most definitely a person and can be communicated with (or rather, he could be communicated with if he existed).

Then you are completely wrong. God is God. He is not human not even a solid form of being.

No, Christian God is most definitely a person. I don't care what you have to say on the subject, because you can't change what Christians believe or what the Bible says. Maybe your view of God is that he can't be communicated with, but Christians believe that he can be communicated with!

Look, I dont know from what kind of Christian denomination are you but the teachings from my perspective (Eastern Orthodox) support that God is not some old guy up on the clouds, that's science fiction, but a nether form represented by the holy trinity- The father, the Son and the holy ghost. God can be communicated with, but not in any way by physical means
How can you say that God is a person? You know him? Is he a solid for of being, made from matter like me and you? How can you even define God in such a careless way; this is arrogant to say the least.
I'm confident that the bible interpretations in every christian denominations are not that vastly different and that the view on God is not that distorted among newer Dogmas and believers .

Oh, I'm not Christian. I just know that in many parts of the Bible, God speaks to people and they speak to him. Speaking = communication.

Then if you are not a Christian why the fuck do you spread nonsense and wasting my time.. You can't even interpret the bible for god's sake..

Are you denying that, in the Bible, God speaks to people and that they speak to him? Are you implying that some parts of the Bible are just metaphors (i.e. lies)? You are? Then riddle me this: If all the stuff about God speaking to people is a lie, then who is to say that the rest of the Bible isn't a lie? Looking at the Bible and going "Yes, I'll accept these bits because they agree with my philosophy, but not these bits because they don't" is a bit of a cheat.

 

[AWAR]

God is not a person with whom you can communicate.

You are aware that this thread is about the Christian god, right? The Christian God is most definitely a person and can be communicated with (or rather, he could be communicated with if he existed).

Then you are completely wrong. God is God. He is not human not even a solid form of being.

No, Christian God is most definitely a person. I don't care what you have to say on the subject, because you can't change what Christians believe or what the Bible says. Maybe your view of God is that he can't be communicated with, but Christians believe that he can be communicated with!

Look, I dont know from what kind of Christian denomination are you but the teachings from my perspective (Eastern Orthodox) support that God is not some old guy up on the clouds, that's science fiction, but a nether form represented by the holy trinity- The father, the Son and the holy ghost. God can be communicated with, but not in any way by physical means
How can you say that God is a person? You know him? Is he a solid for of being, made from matter like me and you? How can you even define God in such a careless way; this is arrogant to say the least.
I'm confident that the bible interpretations in every christian denominations are not that vastly different and that the view on God is not that distorted among newer Dogmas and believers .

Oh, I'm not Christian. I just know that in many parts of the Bible, God speaks to people and they speak to him. Speaking = communication.

Then if you are not a Christian why the fuck do you spread nonsense and wasting my time.. You can't even interpret the bible for god's sake..

Are you denying that, in the Bible, God speaks to people and that they speak to him? Are you implying that some parts of the Bible are just metaphors (i.e. lies)? You are? Then riddle me this: If all the stuff about God speaking to people is a lie, then who is to say that the rest of the Bible isn't a lie? Looking at the Bible and going "Yes, I'll accept these bits because they agree with my philosophy, but not these bits because they don't" is a bit of a cheat.

I'm not some kind of presbyterian nutjob. I'm pretty straightforward with my beliefs. First of all the bible isn't meant to be taken literally, "speak" is a metaphor, if the bible was written any differently the mass would not be able to understand it. Furthermore you've got to improve your grammar skills, metaphor doesnt mean lie. Finally I never said that the bible is true, it would be impossible if it was, thats why it is not meant to be taken literally.

 

[Redingold]

God is not a person with whom you can communicate.

You are aware that this thread is about the Christian god, right? The Christian God is most definitely a person and can be communicated with (or rather, he could be communicated with if he existed).

Then you are completely wrong. God is God. He is not human not even a solid form of being.

No, Christian God is most definitely a person. I don't care what you have to say on the subject, because you can't change what Christians believe or what the Bible says. Maybe your view of God is that he can't be communicated with, but Christians believe that he can be communicated with!

Look, I dont know from what kind of Christian denomination are you but the teachings from my perspective (Eastern Orthodox) support that God is not some old guy up on the clouds, that's science fiction, but a nether form represented by the holy trinity- The father, the Son and the holy ghost. God can be communicated with, but not in any way by physical means
How can you say that God is a person? You know him? Is he a solid for of being, made from matter like me and you? How can you even define God in such a careless way; this is arrogant to say the least.
I'm confident that the bible interpretations in every christian denominations are not that vastly different and that the view on God is not that distorted among newer Dogmas and believers .

Oh, I'm not Christian. I just know that in many parts of the Bible, God speaks to people and they speak to him. Speaking = communication.

Then if you are not a Christian why the fuck do you spread nonsense and wasting my time.. You can't even interpret the bible for god's sake..

Are you denying that, in the Bible, God speaks to people and that they speak to him? Are you implying that some parts of the Bible are just metaphors (i.e. lies)? You are? Then riddle me this: If all the stuff about God speaking to people is a lie, then who is to say that the rest of the Bible isn't a lie? Looking at the Bible and going "Yes, I'll accept these bits because they agree with my philosophy, but not these bits because they don't" is a bit of a cheat.

I'm not some kind of presbyterian nutjob. I'm pretty straightforward with my beliefs. First of all the bible isn't meant to be taken literally, "speak" is a metaphor, if the bible was written any differently the mass would not be able to understand it. Furthermore you've got to improve your grammar skills, metaphor doesnt mean lie. Finally I never said that the bible is true, it would be impossible if it was, thats why it is not meant to be taken literally.

So you've admitted that Bible is not true, and that it contains metaphors, yet you deny that metaphor basically means lie. Also, if some parts of the Bible are not true, how do you know the rest is?

 

[AWAR]

God is not a person with whom you can communicate.

You are aware that this thread is about the Christian god, right? The Christian God is most definitely a person and can be communicated with (or rather, he could be communicated with if he existed).

Then you are completely wrong. God is God. He is not human not even a solid form of being.

No, Christian God is most definitely a person. I don't care what you have to say on the subject, because you can't change what Christians believe or what the Bible says. Maybe your view of God is that he can't be communicated with, but Christians believe that he can be communicated with!

Look, I dont know from what kind of Christian denomination are you but the teachings from my perspective (Eastern Orthodox) support that God is not some old guy up on the clouds, that's science fiction, but a nether form represented by the holy trinity- The father, the Son and the holy ghost. God can be communicated with, but not in any way by physical means
How can you say that God is a person? You know him? Is he a solid for of being, made from matter like me and you? How can you even define God in such a careless way; this is arrogant to say the least.
I'm confident that the bible interpretations in every christian denominations are not that vastly different and that the view on God is not that distorted among newer Dogmas and believers .

Oh, I'm not Christian. I just know that in many parts of the Bible, God speaks to people and they speak to him. Speaking = communication.

Then if you are not a Christian why the fuck do you spread nonsense and wasting my time.. You can't even interpret the bible for god's sake..

Are you denying that, in the Bible, God speaks to people and that they speak to him? Are you implying that some parts of the Bible are just metaphors (i.e. lies)? You are? Then riddle me this: If all the stuff about God speaking to people is a lie, then who is to say that the rest of the Bible isn't a lie? Looking at the Bible and going "Yes, I'll accept these bits because they agree with my philosophy, but not these bits because they don't" is a bit of a cheat.

I'm not some kind of presbyterian nutjob. I'm pretty straightforward with my beliefs. First of all the bible isn't meant to be taken literally, "speak" is a metaphor, if the bible was written any differently the mass would not be able to understand it. Furthermore you've got to improve your grammar skills, metaphor doesnt mean lie. Finally I never said that the bible is true, it would be impossible if it was, thats why it is not meant to be taken literally.

So you've admitted that Bible is not true, and that it contains metaphors, yet you deny that metaphor basically means lie. Also, if some parts of the Bible are not true, how do you know the rest is?

I dont want to sound bitchy, but i want to make this clear

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?noun
1.
a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable in order to suggest a resemblance, as in ?A mighty fortress is our God.?Compare mixed metaphor, simile (def. 1).
2.
something used, or regarded as being used, to represent something else; emblem; symbol.
Use metaphor in a Sentence
See images of metaphor
Search metaphor on the Web
Origin:
1525?35; < L metaphora < Gk metaphorá a transfer, akin to metaphérein to transfer. See meta-, -phore

What do you mean by true parts of the bible e.t.c.? Bible is not a history book, not a single part of it can be said with certainty that is real or not (Im talking about the new testament, the old one a is a bunch of Hebrew fairy-tales)

The bible is a set of teachings and paradigms, resembled through daily life situations and fictional extraordinary events. Through these events the reader is expected to live a life of virtue, reason and love towards his fellows , his environment and God.
It is written in such a way so that the most mentally challenged can understand the main aspects of it. It is and will be that way even if some people (not particularly bright ones one might add) take it literally and make false assumptions about it.

 

[Video Gone]

...I dunno, Stephen Fry, or Avenged Sevenfold.

Dude, you scared me, Stephen Fry's not dead.

OT: I'd try to be bros with him, that'd be kinda cool.

Thanks for snipping the bit that says "assuming I die of old age". Thought it'd be useful, but...

 

[Redingold]

God is not a person with whom you can communicate.

You are aware that this thread is about the Christian god, right? The Christian God is most definitely a person and can be communicated with (or rather, he could be communicated with if he existed).

Then you are completely wrong. God is God. He is not human not even a solid form of being.

No, Christian God is most definitely a person. I don't care what you have to say on the subject, because you can't change what Christians believe or what the Bible says. Maybe your view of God is that he can't be communicated with, but Christians believe that he can be communicated with!

Look, I dont know from what kind of Christian denomination are you but the teachings from my perspective (Eastern Orthodox) support that God is not some old guy up on the clouds, that's science fiction, but a nether form represented by the holy trinity- The father, the Son and the holy ghost. God can be communicated with, but not in any way by physical means
How can you say that God is a person? You know him? Is he a solid for of being, made from matter like me and you? How can you even define God in such a careless way; this is arrogant to say the least.
I'm confident that the bible interpretations in every christian denominations are not that vastly different and that the view on God is not that distorted among newer Dogmas and believers .

Oh, I'm not Christian. I just know that in many parts of the Bible, God speaks to people and they speak to him. Speaking = communication.

Then if you are not a Christian why the fuck do you spread nonsense and wasting my time.. You can't even interpret the bible for god's sake..

Are you denying that, in the Bible, God speaks to people and that they speak to him? Are you implying that some parts of the Bible are just metaphors (i.e. lies)? You are? Then riddle me this: If all the stuff about God speaking to people is a lie, then who is to say that the rest of the Bible isn't a lie? Looking at the Bible and going "Yes, I'll accept these bits because they agree with my philosophy, but not these bits because they don't" is a bit of a cheat.

I'm not some kind of presbyterian nutjob. I'm pretty straightforward with my beliefs. First of all the bible isn't meant to be taken literally, "speak" is a metaphor, if the bible was written any differently the mass would not be able to understand it. Furthermore you've got to improve your grammar skills, metaphor doesnt mean lie. Finally I never said that the bible is true, it would be impossible if it was, thats why it is not meant to be taken literally.

So you've admitted that Bible is not true, and that it contains metaphors, yet you deny that metaphor basically means lie. Also, if some parts of the Bible are not true, how do you know the rest is?

I dont want to sound bitchy, but i want to make this clear

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met·a·phor
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?noun
1.
a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable in order to suggest a resemblance, as in ?A mighty fortress is our God.?Compare mixed metaphor, simile (def. 1).
2.
something used, or regarded as being used, to represent something else; emblem; symbol.
Use metaphor in a Sentence
See images of metaphor
Search metaphor on the Web
Origin:
1525?35; < L metaphora < Gk metaphorá a transfer, akin to metaphérein to transfer. See meta-, -phore

What do you mean by true parts of the bible e.t.c.? Bible is not a history book, not a single part of it can be said with certainty that is real or not (Im talking about the new testament, the old one a is a bunch of Hebrew fairy-tales)

The bible is a set of teachings and paradigms, resembled through daily life situations and fictional extraordinary events. Through these events the reader is expected to live a life of virtue, reason and love towards his fellows , his environment and God.
It is written in such a way so that the most mentally challenged can understand the main aspects of it. It is and will be that way even if some people (not particularly bright ones one might add) take it literally and make false assumptions about it.

Metaphors are untrue. "a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable". Not literal = untrue. Metaphors are not true. The idea of God may just be a metaphor for the laws of physics.

Anyhoo, if you don't believe the Bible at all, then why believe in God? Where is the proof for God that is not in the Bible? Also, does this proof apply specifically to the Christian God, or just to a God in general?

 

[AWAR]

Metaphors are untrue. "a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable". Not literal = untrue. Metaphors are not true. The idea of God may just be a metaphor for the laws of physics.

Anyhoo, if you don't believe the Bible at all, then why believe in God? Where is the proof for God that is not in the Bible? Also, does this proof apply specifically to the Christian God, or just to a God in general?

It's not that simple. Just because the bible is full of symbolism doesn't automatically mean that God does or doesn't exist (Although "existence" is an objective term whereas God is subjective, how can you say that something which is not made by matter really exists). All in all it's up to each and every one of us to make something out of the bible which by the way speaks of the ONE and only judeo-Christian God, according to Christianity and Judaism there are no other Gods.

 

[Redingold]

Metaphors are untrue. "a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable". Not literal = untrue. Metaphors are not true. The idea of God may just be a metaphor for the laws of physics.

Anyhoo, if you don't believe the Bible at all, then why believe in God? Where is the proof for God that is not in the Bible? Also, does this proof apply specifically to the Christian God, or just to a God in general?

It's not that simple. Just because the bible is full of symbolism doesn't automatically mean that God does or doesn't exist (Although "existence" is an objective term whereas God is subjective, how can you say that something which is not made by matter really exists). All in all it's up to each and every one of us to make something out of the bible which by the way speaks of the ONE and only judeo-Christian God, according to Christianity and Judaism there are no other Gods.

Prove that there are no other gods. Also, you can't use the Bible as proof, because you yourself said it wasn't true. Also, how do you that God is not made of matter? I don't believe it says anywhere in the Bible that he is not (and even if it did, the Bible isn't true).

I never said the bible is true, it would be impossible if it was, thats why it is not meant to be taken literally.

 

[AWAR]

Metaphors are untrue. "a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable". Not literal = untrue. Metaphors are not true. The idea of God may just be a metaphor for the laws of physics.

Anyhoo, if you don't believe the Bible at all, then why believe in God? Where is the proof for God that is not in the Bible? Also, does this proof apply specifically to the Christian God, or just to a God in general?

It's not that simple. Just because the bible is full of symbolism doesn't automatically mean that God does or doesn't exist (Although "existence" is an objective term whereas God is subjective, how can you say that something which is not made by matter really exists). All in all it's up to each and every one of us to make something out of the bible which by the way speaks of the ONE and only judeo-Christian God, according to Christianity and Judaism there are no other Gods.

Prove that there are no other gods. Also, you can't use the Bible as proof, because you yourself said it wasn't true. Also, how do you that God is not made of matter? I don't believe it says anywhere in the Bible that he is not (and even if it did, the Bible isn't true).

I never said the bible is true, it would be impossible if it was, thats why it is not meant to be taken literally.

So basically you think that God is made of matter?
How is that even possible ?
Well I'm not sure what are you trying to prove here. That the bible is bullshit? Or that there other Gods? Believe whatever you want, I don't really care, just don't make absurd and unjustified claims for a subject you don't really seem to know a lot about.

 

[Redingold]

Metaphors are untrue. "a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable". Not literal = untrue. Metaphors are not true. The idea of God may just be a metaphor for the laws of physics.

Anyhoo, if you don't believe the Bible at all, then why believe in God? Where is the proof for God that is not in the Bible? Also, does this proof apply specifically to the Christian God, or just to a God in general?

It's not that simple. Just because the bible is full of symbolism doesn't automatically mean that God does or doesn't exist (Although "existence" is an objective term whereas God is subjective, how can you say that something which is not made by matter really exists). All in all it's up to each and every one of us to make something out of the bible which by the way speaks of the ONE and only judeo-Christian God, according to Christianity and Judaism there are no other Gods.

Prove that there are no other gods. Also, you can't use the Bible as proof, because you yourself said it wasn't true. Also, how do you that God is not made of matter? I don't believe it says anywhere in the Bible that he is not (and even if it did, the Bible isn't true).

I never said the bible is true, it would be impossible if it was, thats why it is not meant to be taken literally.

So basically you think that God is made of matter?
How is that even possible ?
Well I'm not sure what are you trying to prove here. That the bible is bullshit? Or that there other Gods? Believe whatever you want, I don't really care, just don't make absurd and unjustified claims for a subject you don't really seem to know a lot about.

I'm trying to understand why you believe in God. I also can't understand how something could not be made of matter. How is that possible? Things made of matter, yes, that's easy to comprehend, but things not made of matter? That just sounds ridiculous (except for things like light and gluons, though they have to move at the speed of light).

So tell me, why do you believe in God? Why specifically the Christian god? Besides, what "absurd and unjustified" claims am I making?

For the record, I do believe that the Bible is bullshit, and I don't believe in any god whatsoever.

 

[AWAR]

Metaphors are untrue. "a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable". Not literal = untrue. Metaphors are not true. The idea of God may just be a metaphor for the laws of physics.

Anyhoo, if you don't believe the Bible at all, then why believe in God? Where is the proof for God that is not in the Bible? Also, does this proof apply specifically to the Christian God, or just to a God in general?

It's not that simple. Just because the bible is full of symbolism doesn't automatically mean that God does or doesn't exist (Although "existence" is an objective term whereas God is subjective, how can you say that something which is not made by matter really exists). All in all it's up to each and every one of us to make something out of the bible which by the way speaks of the ONE and only judeo-Christian God, according to Christianity and Judaism there are no other Gods.

Prove that there are no other gods. Also, you can't use the Bible as proof, because you yourself said it wasn't true. Also, how do you that God is not made of matter? I don't believe it says anywhere in the Bible that he is not (and even if it did, the Bible isn't true).

I never said the bible is true, it would be impossible if it was, thats why it is not meant to be taken literally.

So basically you think that God is made of matter?
How is that even possible ?
Well I'm not sure what are you trying to prove here. That the bible is bullshit? Or that there other Gods? Believe whatever you want, I don't really care, just don't make absurd and unjustified claims for a subject you don't really seem to know a lot about.

I'm trying to understand why you believe in God. I also can't understand how something could not be made of matter. How is that possible? Things made of matter, yes, that's easy to comprehend, but things not made of matter? That just sounds ridiculous (except for things like light and gluons, though they have to move at the speed of light).

So tell me, why do you believe in God? Why specifically the Christian god? Besides, what "absurd and unjustified" claims am I making?

For the record, I do believe that the Bible is bullshit, and I don't believe in any god whatsoever.

I never said I believe in God ;D

 

[Redingold]

Metaphors are untrue. "a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable". Not literal = untrue. Metaphors are not true. The idea of God may just be a metaphor for the laws of physics.

Anyhoo, if you don't believe the Bible at all, then why believe in God? Where is the proof for God that is not in the Bible? Also, does this proof apply specifically to the Christian God, or just to a God in general?

It's not that simple. Just because the bible is full of symbolism doesn't automatically mean that God does or doesn't exist (Although "existence" is an objective term whereas God is subjective, how can you say that something which is not made by matter really exists). All in all it's up to each and every one of us to make something out of the bible which by the way speaks of the ONE and only judeo-Christian God, according to Christianity and Judaism there are no other Gods.

Prove that there are no other gods. Also, you can't use the Bible as proof, because you yourself said it wasn't true. Also, how do you that God is not made of matter? I don't believe it says anywhere in the Bible that he is not (and even if it did, the Bible isn't true).

I never said the bible is true, it would be impossible if it was, thats why it is not meant to be taken literally.

So basically you think that God is made of matter?
How is that even possible ?
Well I'm not sure what are you trying to prove here. That the bible is bullshit? Or that there other Gods? Believe whatever you want, I don't really care, just don't make absurd and unjustified claims for a subject you don't really seem to know a lot about.

I'm trying to understand why you believe in God. I also can't understand how something could not be made of matter. How is that possible? Things made of matter, yes, that's easy to comprehend, but things not made of matter? That just sounds ridiculous (except for things like light and gluons, though they have to move at the speed of light).

So tell me, why do you believe in God? Why specifically the Christian god? Besides, what "absurd and unjustified" claims am I making?

For the record, I do believe that the Bible is bullshit, and I don't believe in any god whatsoever.

I never said I believe in God ;D

Really?

Look, I dont know from what kind of Christian denomination are you but the teachings from my perspective (Eastern Orthodox) support that God is not some old guy up on the clouds, that's science fiction, but a nether form represented by the holy trinity- The father, the Son and the holy ghost.

So you're an atheist Eastern Orthodox Christian?