i am god

[Gruevy]

hm... perhaps this should belong in the R&P dungeon?

If you mean Religion and Politics, i didnt intend for the thread to be religouse but it seems to be turning out that way.

If you mean Role Playing, what the fuck, why?

uh... because you're role playing as a god??

Lol, no you got it right. Yeah, in general, most threads about God end up in the Religion and Politics section, since any talk about God at all will turn towards a conversation about religion.

I'd rather talk about these things as a concept rather than go into details pertaining to any specific depictions of god or gods in any religion. I can't say I'm particularly interested in them. The idea sparked from when I was reading Marvel's Dark Reign and it was in a story where Hank Pym revealed he made an entire dimension in the form of his wife. I forgot which issue that was but it was profound at the time.

 

[harvz]

umm, no.
we are part of the universe and we can manipulate it to our will but that doesnt make us god, that makes us part of the universe... and sentient seeing as how much we can manipulate compared to a family pet.
a god does not have boundary's, you do.

 

[Bloodastral]

Why do we press harder on a remote control when we know the batteries are getting dead?

 

[Gruevy]

Ah, but the implication is that God has set boundaries. He is confined to a body (the universe) and with that confinement He ceases to be all powerful, as there is a greater force binding Him.

This idea is present in Buddhism I think, where Buddha is the world and the world is Buddha. But I'm basing this off what I read in Monkey, and that's not exactly a straight faced story. Basically Buddha tells Monkey to go to the end of the world, and whilst he's there he sees 5 giant columns, writes his name on one and takes a piss on another. When he gets back to Buddha it is revealed he only travelled as far as Buddha's hand, and makes Monkey smell his own piss.

It would make for a cool sci-fi story though. The Search for the Divine Central Nervous System, or something like that.

Well, isn't the universe ever-expanding? It appears like the only boundary at all is nonexistence itself.

 

[brunothepig]

No. What you're talking about is true, in a sense. It's true that on an atomic level, we are similar, and atoms are recycled. That whole "your water might be pee" thing is kind of true. Some of those hydrogen atoms may once have been part of the atomic structure of your urine, yes. But they aren't anymore.
It's energy that can't be created/destroyed, not mass. Hell, mass is created or destroyed all the time, The Big Bang is a great example.
Again, yes some of the atoms that make up the human body are also involved, if structured differently, in making up a star, or planet or what have you. But that really doesn't mean anything.

 

[moretimethansense]

I would have hoped that god wouldn't refer to himself as "i" he should use the strong, manly "I" instead. /Grammar Nazi

 

[neoontime]

Um, what!
(dazed eyes)
Okay I am not even bother to fully understand that one.

 

[beniki]

Ah, but the implication is that God has set boundaries. He is confined to a body (the universe) and with that confinement He ceases to be all powerful, as there is a greater force binding Him.

This idea is present in Buddhism I think, where Buddha is the world and the world is Buddha. But I'm basing this off what I read in Monkey, and that's not exactly a straight faced story. Basically Buddha tells Monkey to go to the end of the world, and whilst he's there he sees 5 giant columns, writes his name on one and takes a piss on another. When he gets back to Buddha it is revealed he only travelled as far as Buddha's hand, and makes Monkey smell his own piss.

It would make for a cool sci-fi story though. The Search for the Divine Central Nervous System, or something like that.

Well, isn't the universe ever-expanding? The only boundary at all is nonexistence itself.

It's still a boundary. And you could argue that God has existence even in non-existence.

It also implies God is a growing being, which means that he isn't perfect, but is still growing into perfection.

That could be an interesting notion though. He doesn't exist yet, but will once the universe finishes expanding, and all of existence has become a uniform distribution of energy through entropy.

 

[Gruevy]

It also implies God is a growing being, which means that he isn't perfect, but is still growing into perfection.

That could be an interesting notion though. He doesn't exist yet, but will once the universe finishes expanding, and all of existence has become a uniform distribution of energy through entropy.

2001: A Space Odyssey.

Damn you, Stanley Kubrick!

 

[Bugerion]

I would have hoped that god wouldn't refer to himself as "i" he should use the strong, manly "I" instead. /Grammar Nazi

Dammit I wanted to point that out

 

[beniki]

It also implies God is a growing being, which means that he isn't perfect, but is still growing into perfection.

That could be an interesting notion though. He doesn't exist yet, but will once the universe finishes expanding, and all of existence has become a uniform distribution of energy through entropy.

2001: A Space Odyssey.

Damn you, Stanley Kubrick!

Curses. Ninja'd by an old sci-fi movie

 

[Sinspiration]

You my friend, have watched too much Babylon 5. We are not Minbari.

 

[black_omega2]

"The molecules of your body are the same molecules that make this station and the nebula outside, that burn inside the stars themselves. We are star-stuff. We are the Universe, made manifest, trying to figure itself out." -Delenn, B5

I thought it was relevant. Babylon 5 can be rather enlightening, I'm so glad I watched it growing up.

As for being all of us being gods... thats sounds awfully presumptuous.

EDIT:

You my friend, have watched too much Babylon 5. We are not Minbari.

Whoa... hivemind

 

[Criquefreak]

Well, this might be a good thing to remember next time someone asks if I'm a god.

Though a lot of those dots seem to be missing a connection.

'Nothing created/destroyed' okay, a common scientific principle with plenty of acceptable research backing.

'Components of the universe are part of it' fair enough.

'We are the creators' something about the specific phrasing seems off, especially in context to prior statements.

'Life is completely random and chaotic...' umm, kind of hard to accept. Were it so, attempts at logic or reasoning wouldn't work, things would be in near constant flux. Though schizophrenics tend to be wholly assured of themselves and their point of view, however inconsistent that view is. But other than the dangerously insane, yes, pretty much the only thing that a person has any hope of fully understanding is themselves.

'... am/are god' certainly an interesting contemplation. I recall reading about something along these lines in occult studies, sort of a thought experiment. It involved reciting those phrases as a mantra while looking at someone or looking at oneself in the mirror (note: but not out loud).

If nothing else, this would be an interesting idea to discuss or explore sometime when sleep deprivation isn't a factor.

 

[quantumsoul]

This is nothing new. It was already figured out hundreds of years ago. E.G. Christian Gnostics, Buddhists, various pagan Osiris-Dionysus cults and other spiritual paths I can't think of.

It's a good realization and a great thing to share. A great book to read, especially for people who don't quite get it is The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle. Also the Laughing Jesus is a great book on the subject too.

 

[sheogoraththemad]

we aren't gods, we will become gods

WHOO! 700th post!

 

[MasterOfWorlds]

There are actually quite a few people that believe in something similar to that. The whole idea is that since God creates things, and every living being also creates things, that we must all be God (or at least part of God). It does make a certain amount of sense. I think it does, anyway.

 

[Thyunda]

so everything that is inside you is also inside the universe. in a way you are a universe, you are THE universe.

... no, we are not universes. Or gods. Or creators of the world around us. You have jumped far too many points in between your arguments to go from "we are part of the universe" to "we are our own universes".

I'm really not sure what you're saying here. You seem to take "I think therefore I am" and then add "a god" on the end.

I've always had the amusing argumentative point that I am God and the same reasons you can't disprove God's existence mean you can't disprove my identity as God.

 

[TheTaco007]

EDIT: Sorry, I thought he said "possible"

 

[deedoubleyou]

So one lego brick built the lego house?

Nail, meet head.