I before E exept after C rule exeptions.

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Darzen

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OK let's face it English is the most complex language to learn. So that I before E exept after C rule seems simple right? well i've noticed many exeptions to this rule. So let's list all the exeption you can think of.
SUCH AS: Weight,Height, and Their.
 

Jack and Calumon

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Darzen said:
OK let's face it English is the most complex language to learn.
Try Japanese. ***** is hard as hell.

OT: The whole rule is "I before E except after C and G" but people don't remember that G part because it feels tacked on.

"Weird" is an Ironic example of this.

Calumon: I thought rules were made to be broken.
 

Heart of Darkness

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Funny thing about language: It actually gets harder to learn once you stop being a learning sponge around the age of six (at least when it comes to speaking it). Actually learning any language is hard work, and does require focus; I don't think any language can be quantifiably called the "hardest language to learn EVAR!!!!" due to the nuances in each individual language.

As far as the I before E rule, remember that is goes "I before E, except after, or when it sounds like A, as in 'neighbor' and 'weigh.'" In this rule, "weight" still fits. Exceptions include, but are not limited to "height," "weird," and "foreign." "Being" might seem to break this rule, but not when you think about how you conjugate the verb "to be."
 

C95J

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Judging by how many exceptions there are, I don't think it should have been a rule in the first place :p
 

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"I before E except after C, and when sounding like "ay" as in "neighbor" and "weigh", and on weekends and holidays, and all throughout May, and you'll always be wrong, no matter what you say!"

- Brian Regan
 

Aurgelmir

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C95J said:
Judging by how many exceptions there are, I don't think it should have been a rule in the first place :p
I agree on this.

Thing is English isn't a hard language, it's just illogical.
Mainly because it'ss a bastard hybrid language based on loads of other languages.

And unlike a lot of other languages, english don't seem to mold words to fit a system, instead they use the same writting as the foreign version of it.

Also; Vowls is a bit fucked uo in english. Atleast compared to my language, Norwegian.
 

Stormpigeon

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Science. i before e except after c except in certain cases like this one doesn't roll off the tongue nearly as well.
 

crudus

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Darzen said:
OK let's face it English is the most complex language to learn. So that I before E exept after C rule seems simple right? well i've noticed many exeptions to this rule. So let's list all the exeption you can think of.
SUCH AS: Weight,Height, and Their.

Well, actually the rhyme goes something like "I before E except after C except when it sounds like an A as in neighbor and weigh" (the question is then what about seizure and leisure?)
 

Latinidiot

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No it is not. I heard that Dutch is considered pretty hard. This is probably excluding the eastern languages.
 

accountdeletethis

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I wouldn't consider English a hard language to learn. Then again, I did learn it at the age of five, when a child's brain can practically assimilate anything.
 

GiantRedButton

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Fun fact: America chose English as their national language because it was the easiest to learn.
the big alternatives where obviously Spanish and German, both way harder to learn though.
At most non native-English-speaking schools you first learn English as your first foreign one and then the harder ones like Spanish, French or even Latin (that ones a *****)
 

Daveman

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It's fine. Just thank god that every noun doesn't come with its own gender. I'M LOOKING AT YOU FRENCH! You and you're other continental breakfast-eating buddies can fuck RIGHT off.
 

CitySquirrel

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GiantRedButton said:
Fun fact: America chose English as their national language because it was the easiest to learn.
the big alternatives where obviously Spanish and German, both way harder to learn though.
I would love to see some kind of, you know, citation that backs up that little tidbit. I mean, I would personally suspect that, I do not know, the fact that we were an English colony might have had more to do with it.

On topic, the i before e rule is really quite useless because there are almost as many exceptions as their are adherents (that is probably a stretch of the definition of that word but...meh, call it poetic license). English comes from too large a group of languages for such a rule to really make sense.

Anyone who is interested in this look up some of the linguist John McWhorter's work.
 

Woodsey

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Rules are a waste of time. Just learn to spell.

Speaking of which, it's "exceptions".