I've heard that argument a lot.feather240 said:
But the games are what matter, the books themselves might as well be about a totally different IP. I don't know, if I want a good MP FPS I'll play Halo, if I want a good story I'll play Mass Effect.
I don't quite get why people hate Halo
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But the games are what matter, the books themselves might as well be about a totally different IP. I don't know, if I want a good MP FPS I'll play Halo, if I want a good story I'll play Mass Effect.
That's a good question. I remember having a conversation with a friend of mine sometime back, centered around what stuff we thought was genuinely stupid. He said something about Halo being full of shit, and the story making no fucking sense, at all.
Frankly, I still don't get what he was talking about. I think Halo is fun, insanely fun in fact, and I honestly don't think that it is in anyway 'bat-shit crazy'.
No, seriously. I am NOT being sarcastic, at all
Frankly, I still don't get what he was talking about. I think Halo is fun, insanely fun in fact, and I honestly don't think that it is in anyway 'bat-shit crazy'.
No, seriously. I am NOT being sarcastic, at all
I don't hate Halo, just the multiplayer. Its too unbalanced if someone happens to get the right vehicle/powerup/weapon/what have you, and the community just makes everything a bit more untolerable.
The campaigns for all three games were pretty well established and played out, and I can actually say that I enjoyed myself while playing through them.
The campaigns for all three games were pretty well established and played out, and I can actually say that I enjoyed myself while playing through them.
Swing and a miss. As far as setting the standard for console shooters the award goes to .... Goldeneye!blaze2142 said:
But yes it did improve on the formula.
And now there is a pretty standard formula.
I actually can't stand Halo, but not because it's popular or what not.
I can't stand it for it's single player, its story, I don't like the weapons, etc.
Plus I don't play many games online, especially over XBL so there's no reason for me to own it or play it.
That said I don't own COD either, though I think its a better game and have enjoyed it splitscreen at a friend's house on more than one occasion. I can't say the same for Halo.
I guess I prefer FPS on PC mostly. As far as these console versions go, they didn't really add anything all that innovative that Unreal Tournament didn't have, so I have trouble seeing them as being that big a deal.
That's just my opinion anyway, but I do see why some people like Halo. The gameplay is not bad and its got a big online community.
But I also don't have a hard time seeing why people hate it, because in all honesty I find the game to be pretty average.
I've yet seen any game copy from Halo. Pretty much they all play like CoD. Halo is more creative than most FPSs out there. If anything, Halo set the bar for online FPSs on consoles. It was the first large online console game. It always changed something about the game WITHOUT ruining the core gameplay. It has the best balanced vehicle and foot combat. It has a well developed story although the execution wasn't the best as it could have. Thanks to forge, players can create their own maps and have Bungie use them in their playlists. Halo has the best community support on any console and it rivals some of the PC games.James_Sunderland said:
Personally, I just didn't find it much fun. The online is fun to do do occasionally, yet the single player was really bear-boned and simple and a really mediocre story. What Japan is to ifeminate boys with crazy hair and big ass swords (Final Fantasy), grizzeled, brown-haired marines/soldiers are to North America (Gears of War).
I like the ocasional change from both themes, like Half-Life is my favorite first-person shooter ever cause it has great gameplay and an immersive story (though its easy to argue that Gordon's just a grizzled, brown-haired scientest, as opposed to a marine/soldier). And my favorite JRPG is Persona 4, which as a unique system where you balance the protagonist's school-life with his dungeon delving.
Thats my 2-bits.
I like the ocasional change from both themes, like Half-Life is my favorite first-person shooter ever cause it has great gameplay and an immersive story (though its easy to argue that Gordon's just a grizzled, brown-haired scientest, as opposed to a marine/soldier). And my favorite JRPG is Persona 4, which as a unique system where you balance the protagonist's school-life with his dungeon delving.
Thats my 2-bits.
I believe that title goes to Team Fortress 2. Hell, even Bad Company 2 is more interesting and diverse than MW2.Zing said:
OT: Halo's pretty decent yeah, I don't see the hate towards it. Personally, I don't get why it's so acclaimed, but it's one of the best games to play with 3 other mates around a TV.
meh. always liked marathon better...
though really, "old is better" is a common slection trope i use for games/films...
(not books though)
though really, "old is better" is a common slection trope i use for games/films...
(not books though)
The answer is Halo is hated because things that a lot of people have opinions on naturally draw hate because not all the opinions are positive.
What criticism does Halo get that I think it really deserves? When it was released there were other, better FPS games that came out at the same time, or were already out, but this one was hailed as one of the greatest ever made. Aside from the fact that it was actually playable with a game controller, there isn't much that's particularly unique from it in the genre. With the spotlight swinging towards Halo and away from games that were more polished, well rounded or innovative, Halo is almost solely responsible for the fact that an entire game generation of FPS games are console-to-PC ports and not the other way around like they should be.
What criticism does Halo get that I think it really deserves? When it was released there were other, better FPS games that came out at the same time, or were already out, but this one was hailed as one of the greatest ever made. Aside from the fact that it was actually playable with a game controller, there isn't much that's particularly unique from it in the genre. With the spotlight swinging towards Halo and away from games that were more polished, well rounded or innovative, Halo is almost solely responsible for the fact that an entire game generation of FPS games are console-to-PC ports and not the other way around like they should be.
I can certainly understand people not liking it, because certain people like certain things. I like science fiction and varying degrees of fantasy but am bored by real world conflicts, so perhaps a few people don't like Halo for that reason alone.
Then of course... there are the people who hate popular stuff to feel special, people with other consoles who hate it for being the Xbox's flagship, people who are elitist and usually just some kind of wierd mix of the bunch.
Overall, there's this general consensus that disliking this game makes you more intelligent which I don't get. Because it's nothing special and the people who think it makes them special certainly are wrong, disliking a video game does not make one obsservant, elitist, clever or special... it just means you have different tastes. That's it.
Halo just suffers from being in the position of being a really big budget FPS that people like to play a lot but has predeccessors with a little more depth, naturally people will hold up any other game as substance over style and while I can see the appeal of going for the little guy over the big evil bland corporate monstrosity... it's reached the point now that the 'small' and 'little' games like Half Life 2 are now held up in ridiculously high pedistals and Halo is being shunned into the dirt and most people I know who sit down and honestly play it (I once got a guy who never played Halo buy merrily bashed it so sit down and play ODST and he couldn't get enough of it, later he wanted to watch Halo Legends) realise that while it is certainly no godly game of the heavens, it's not a bitter curse from the devil either. It's a good game that has (if you ask me) a good universe backing it up.
Still, I don't mean to bash. I know that not everyone who dislikes Halo is like that, I just like to think that for some of the extremists this may be an accuarate description.
Then of course... there are the people who hate popular stuff to feel special, people with other consoles who hate it for being the Xbox's flagship, people who are elitist and usually just some kind of wierd mix of the bunch.
Overall, there's this general consensus that disliking this game makes you more intelligent which I don't get. Because it's nothing special and the people who think it makes them special certainly are wrong, disliking a video game does not make one obsservant, elitist, clever or special... it just means you have different tastes. That's it.
Halo just suffers from being in the position of being a really big budget FPS that people like to play a lot but has predeccessors with a little more depth, naturally people will hold up any other game as substance over style and while I can see the appeal of going for the little guy over the big evil bland corporate monstrosity... it's reached the point now that the 'small' and 'little' games like Half Life 2 are now held up in ridiculously high pedistals and Halo is being shunned into the dirt and most people I know who sit down and honestly play it (I once got a guy who never played Halo buy merrily bashed it so sit down and play ODST and he couldn't get enough of it, later he wanted to watch Halo Legends) realise that while it is certainly no godly game of the heavens, it's not a bitter curse from the devil either. It's a good game that has (if you ask me) a good universe backing it up.
Still, I don't mean to bash. I know that not everyone who dislikes Halo is like that, I just like to think that for some of the extremists this may be an accuarate description.
I don't hate Halo, I just don't like it. Well, I don't like the multiplayer.
Playing Halo online consists of this: Jump, fire weapon(usually rocket, land, repeat.
I played Halo online once(first one for PC. And when I say once, I mean once.) and the first thing that happened to me was an entire server making fun of my for not constantly jumping. Then a few people tried to explain to me that spamming jump means you're good...
Now, throw me in a room with Halo and a friend, and we'll run through the campaign. Split-screen co-op story modes always rock, no matter how bad the story actually is. However, I'll never play the game online again.
*Note*: I did play Halo2 online for a few months before I just got sick of the jump-fest.
Playing Halo online consists of this: Jump, fire weapon(usually rocket, land, repeat.
I played Halo online once(first one for PC. And when I say once, I mean once.) and the first thing that happened to me was an entire server making fun of my for not constantly jumping. Then a few people tried to explain to me that spamming jump means you're good...
Now, throw me in a room with Halo and a friend, and we'll run through the campaign. Split-screen co-op story modes always rock, no matter how bad the story actually is. However, I'll never play the game online again.
*Note*: I did play Halo2 online for a few months before I just got sick of the jump-fest.
Uh... because different people like and dislike different things?
And not that many people hate Halo. In fact, you might have noticed that it's actually... y'know, rather popular.
Personally, I really enjoyed the first one. But the second one was a turd. Never got round to playing the third.
And not that many people hate Halo. In fact, you might have noticed that it's actually... y'know, rather popular.
Personally, I really enjoyed the first one. But the second one was a turd. Never got round to playing the third.
It's bad because people still have to ask everyone why it is bad.
Seriously, if threads like these just stopped, we wouldn't have the problem.
The mechanics of Halo are quite lackluster, being rather basic for a first person shooter, however, this is one of the reasons I like the game. The story, while apparently supposed to be deep and shit, didn't appear to be there to me, and the levels were quite well designed and certainly well populated so the shooting part of Halo worked quite well, without being bogged down by story.
Personally, the multiplayer of Halo 2 and 3 wasn't nearly as great as I have it made out to me repeatedly. For multiplayer, I'd go for Team Fortress 2, Modern Warfare or Unreal Tournament depending on my mood. Only Halo 1 has ever got me hooked on its multiplayer, and that's because of how well 'balanced' it was... At least, as long as everyone used human weapons. Especially among friends, Halo was my favourite game to play.
It all comes down to taste and personal preference, I don't understand this die hard war between the fans of Halo and the bashers of it, or any game, or piece of media, or any object. I could argue for hours to a scat fetishist why it's disgusting, but that wouldn't change the fact that they find sexual pleasure out of being crapped on.
Same goes for gamers, although in some cases it seems as though they find being shat on pleasurable from even more than sexual reasons. >_<
Seriously, if threads like these just stopped, we wouldn't have the problem.
The mechanics of Halo are quite lackluster, being rather basic for a first person shooter, however, this is one of the reasons I like the game. The story, while apparently supposed to be deep and shit, didn't appear to be there to me, and the levels were quite well designed and certainly well populated so the shooting part of Halo worked quite well, without being bogged down by story.
Personally, the multiplayer of Halo 2 and 3 wasn't nearly as great as I have it made out to me repeatedly. For multiplayer, I'd go for Team Fortress 2, Modern Warfare or Unreal Tournament depending on my mood. Only Halo 1 has ever got me hooked on its multiplayer, and that's because of how well 'balanced' it was... At least, as long as everyone used human weapons. Especially among friends, Halo was my favourite game to play.
It all comes down to taste and personal preference, I don't understand this die hard war between the fans of Halo and the bashers of it, or any game, or piece of media, or any object. I could argue for hours to a scat fetishist why it's disgusting, but that wouldn't change the fact that they find sexual pleasure out of being crapped on.
Same goes for gamers, although in some cases it seems as though they find being shat on pleasurable from even more than sexual reasons. >_<
I really enjoyed Halo, until I took it online. Once that happened I started to realize how average the game is.
Nothing has changed since the first. There is just nothing spectacular and there's no wow factor to it.
Halo CE was awesome, but what they have done is old now.
Yeah fighting in a massive open area was awesome and new in Halo CE, but now its just not good enough.
They need to mix it up a bit, and ffs get rid of the grunts. Why are they even in the game? One moment its trying to be serious, one second later you have a bunch of midgets running around with confetti coming out of their heads.
Either make it really kiddy or more realistic and gory/dark, then I will start enjoying it again.
Nothing has changed since the first. There is just nothing spectacular and there's no wow factor to it.
Halo CE was awesome, but what they have done is old now.
Yeah fighting in a massive open area was awesome and new in Halo CE, but now its just not good enough.
They need to mix it up a bit, and ffs get rid of the grunts. Why are they even in the game? One moment its trying to be serious, one second later you have a bunch of midgets running around with confetti coming out of their heads.
Either make it really kiddy or more realistic and gory/dark, then I will start enjoying it again.
I like Halo, maybe even love it. Eh, people probably hate it because of Halo 2. I've always considered it my favorite FPS anyway, maybe because Halo 1 was the first I ever played. I liked the story as-well, especially of ODST. About the multiplayer, its solid and decent. But everyone is right, the pricks with microphones ruin it for everyone.
I honestly don't understand why people care so much. Some people find it fun, some people do not. Why they have to go out and try to change people's opinions about it and rant all the time confuse the hell out of me. Why do you care so much if somebody does or doesn't enjoy a game you like/dislike? Get over yourself.
Somebody got out the wrong side of the bed...!scrambledeggs said:
Anyway, fanboyism is really why Halo 2 gets so much hatred. If it wasn't an exclusive it wouldn't get half the flak.
Oh and yes, you could have surmised that from your own private thoughts, but then if forum topics were canned in favour of that approach as standard The Escapist would be a very quiet place indeed!