I don't see why _____ gets so much hate...

[Bobsonnn]

Was gonna say Nickelback, but that was clearly been done in some detail already, oops...

so, Fall Out Boy. I think Patrick Stump is a hell of a singer-songwriter, some of their songs are really, really good. Everyone just seems to never get past the whole 'emo-poster-boy' thing they had going on with Pete Wentz.

 

[clayschuldt]

Yeah, I've got to go with the Star Wars films. Seems like everytime something new happens with Star Wars there is violent rage running rampid through the internet community. At this point I have trouble remembering the last time something new with Star Wars had anyone excited.

 

[Vault101]

One word. Rebirth. He discovered auto-tune, thought he could sing, and pretty much stopped rapping. I call it the Drake effect. His output for almost half a decade has been pretty consistently awful... The bad just outweighs the good so much, he is probably one of the worst hip-hop artists out. And soulja boi, as far as I can tell, is just technically, lyrically, bad.

I remember that one song from soulja boy from when I was in highschool

YOOOOUUU! JDKLFJDKLFJKDJF SOULJA BOY!....YOOOOOOUUUUUUU! MNXCM,VDSJFHJFH SOULJA BOY!

it was not even pleasant to listen too...most pop is bad but still catchy/pleasant

my problem with lil wayne is his voice...in rap I feel part of the apeal is how pleasant their voice is to listen too....ok sure Eminem had this nasaly little whine thing going on but it worked when he was "slim shady" (without me, my name is, real slim shady)

and Kanye's voice isnt the best but his saving grace is his production (and somtimes solid lyrics)

good lyrics cant save lil wayne for me....and Drake is just as bad

My favorite "song" remains "untitled [rhubarb]", by Aphex Twin, which consists almost entirely of flutes, no vocals.

"We can make the world stop" Glitch Mob

[quote/]But her latest efforts at rapping (Stupid Hoe and Beez in the Trap) ruined her rapping skills in general to me.[/quote]

why does everyone mention that damn song?....

 

[lacktheknack]

[quote/]But her latest efforts at rapping (Stupid Hoe and Beez in the Trap) ruined her rapping skills in general to me.

why does everyone mention that damn song?....[/quote]

For the same reason everyone mentions Ghost Rider when talking about Nicolas Cage: It's inexplicable and positively ruinous.

To be fair, the song becomes pretty hilarious if you take it as Nicki having a fit of total frustration in her garden.

 

[Yomomma20]

Mass Effect 3's ending.

It wasn't THAT bad people ><

 

[Vault101]

Mass Effect 3's ending.

It wasn't THAT bad people ><

.....
....n.n....nnnnnrrrrr

NNNRRRRAAAAAAAG

no must resist urge to....to....

Need distraction!

oh look! peopel dancing in snuggies!

[img/]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5vaajNrgM1rwkf27o1_400.gif[/img]

I'm going to be THAT guy and say the Mass Effect 3 ending.

I honestly do not understand why there is that much hate flung toward it. It may have been bad, it may have been totally absymal, but when it's 6 months on and I still see people bitching about it, I can't help but feel like everyone is overreacting. So what if there were plot holes? Lots of stuff has plot holes, but this stuff is forgotten about in less than a week. Especially since the EC was released, people should just bloody move on.

ahh! another one!

please....stop....I before I do somthing awful

[img/]http://uboachan.net/ot/src/1344372510197.jpg[/img]

 

[Xanadu84]

why do COD enthusiasts get flamed so much?

Because so many people copy CoD's formula, people get sick of the formula and eventually blame the original.

There's more to it then that, but that is the short answer.

 

[WouldYouKindly]

I think it's more that they aren't punk anymore. I don't understand it either, I think their most recent 3 albums are far better than their earlier work. My favorite of which is warning which is their least popular album.
Also their new albums coming out over the next few months are looking awesome.

As a member of the punk community, I can give the reason pretty clearly. Green Day was never a political band... until politics became popular. It's kind of bullshit for them to become wildly popular on a political platform when bands that had been doing it the whole time remained obscure. It was a huge lyrical change in response to an increase in political interests of people in general and especially mid and late teens(demographics with disposable income).

 

[Xanadu84]

I change my mind...

Anita Sarkeesian!

*Erects anti-shitstorm bunker*

Sure she could probably go about what she's doing witha tad more grace and efficiency but seriously wtf, guys? You could go around what you do with a hell of a lot more grace...

Hypothetically if a woman told you rape was wrong would threaten to rape them.
If someone said they felt a certain demographic had been misrepresented and that maybe people could be a bit better about it would you then rape them.
If someone expressed they had strong feelings towards something and that they wanted like minded people to contribute to helping get that opinion out there would you make a flash game in which you beat them bloody?
If someone said something you didn't like but that didn't effect you in the least would you try and ruin their lives?

Everyone who took part in that whole anti-Anita extremist... Thing makes me sick!

(Also dat ass, that rack, them lips those games!)

Seriously. I hate how people accuse her of being a scam artist too. She planned on making a video with $7,000 in production value, and now she has the raw resources to make something 25 times as expensive, and everyone on the internet is waiting to watch her video and consider it representative of the entirety of feminism forever and for all time. Gee, maybe this is the sort of project whose ambition pushes the release date back a bit? Valve is applauded, rightfully, for pushing release dates back in favor of a better quality final product, but when a feminist does it, its a scam. When a game company takes customer input, they are applauded for listening to their audience, but when she asks her audience for input, shes accused of avoiding work. Its rather infuriating, especially when the topic being addressed is such an important issue that maybe gamers could use a pair of fresh eyes on, rather then ruminating over it on internet forums for a million and a half posts.

And for the love of God, pointing out that Ico has some sexist themes is not the final condemnation of Ico as a game for all time. Ico HAD some sexist themes, probably accidentally, and questioning those themes can only bring about insight.

 

[FrozenCones]

Muse are also getting a lot of hate at the moment, probably for the same reason as Linkin Park. I personally really like their new stuff.

 

[axlryder]

Megaman 7: It's a solid game. There are quite a few hidden things that are really cool,it looks slick and is still really fun.Plus S.Adept is cool as hell.Yet it's despised by so many,Heck Brentalfloss takes a half of his Megaman 2 video to bash it.

YES! YES! YES! /thread YOU ARE CORRECT SIR!

Seriously, Megaman 7 gets waaaay too much undeserved hate. Sure, there was burst man... but what about Freeze Man?! That guy by himself is more fun to fight than any of the bosses in the prior three megaman games. Plus, the game looks slick as hell and there's even a 16-bit remake floating around out there for purists. It's just a great game that really gets no love.

Indeed this. 7 is my favorite after 3 and 2 in the core series. An extremely good game in my opinion and I have no idea why people hate it so much. I thought the bosses were cool, and I like to think I have pretty discerning taste about that sort of thing. I love the art-style too. I've played through all of them many times and seven still stands out to me.

Everything else I can at least understand why someone might hate it. I genuinely can't fully understand why people dislike this game. Now 8. 8 is a different story.

 

[kburns10]

Madden. I don't like the games, but what harm does it do if people buy it each year? For that matter, is CoD and Madden ruining YOUR gaming experience? I still see games like Mirror's Edge and Enslaved being made, so I guess they aren't "destroying gaming" like some people make it sound like.

 

[Hollock]

Coldplay. They're mostly average and have had one or two pretty good songs.

 

[Yugeky20]

The Star wars prequels. I liked them, nay, loved them. You heard me.

How doo you feel about Jar-Jar Binks?

 

[VoidWanderer]

why do COD enthusiasts get flamed so much?

Because so many people copy CoD's formula, people get sick of the formula and eventually blame the original.

There's more to it then that, but that is the short answer.

Wait, copy CoD's formula?

You mean, Halo except it's regenerating health?

I prefer having to think about my shots and where to go, rather than hide-and-go-bang... That and the enthusiasts thinking it is the greatest gift to gaming is fairly depressing or the honestly think it is the 'iconic'/'first' FPS game.

Anyways, getting back on topic...

I'm gonna throw my two cents in towards Nickelback and Anita Sarkeesian. I enjoy Nickelback's music, and while I get why the 'men' got their panties in a bunch, my first thought was 'This could be interesting to see her point of view'.

 

[sumanoskae]

I vastly prefer LP's old stuff (Hybrid Theory, Meteroa).

Spoiler

Saying the subject matter was only "I'm really upset with you", to me, is an oversimplification that can be applied to anything.

Mass Effect is about meeting people and shooting things. Now, that's not directly untrue, but it neglects to accurately encompass the experience despite it's pretense to do so. What are you shooting and why? Who are these people you meet and how do you meet them? A story does not often benefit from a basic synopsis that is complex. Depth arises naturally from the implications of the story's events, but the narrative structure should maintain focus and be easy to understand (Unless confusion is what you're actively pursuing).

Being broad is not the same as being deep.

LP's old songs were about people who were upset, but analyzing the unique circumstances of those people (Who are unspecific people on purpose, as what's being said could apply to anyone) and why and how they were upset was what made them interesting. In the newer ones they lack that humanity, they make statements but don't back them up.

In "The Catalyst", the singer speaks of a "Broken people", but there's never any indication as to why they're broken. Every lyric simply restates the obvious. Since I don't know why they broke or how, I can't draw any parallels or apply the idea to anything real, nor can I sympathize, because all I have is conjecture.

Compare this to, say "Figure 09". Here, the singers are clearly upset, but the reasons for this are complex. They speak of a person who they have grown to both need and hate. They've allowed their hatred to change them, and have always regretted doing so. As a result, they were never able to let that person go, and when they confronted them they realized that "From all the infinite things I could say I put all the pain you gave to me on display, but didn't realize, instead of setting it free I took what I hated and made it a part of me".

The song is not merely about hating somebody, it's about allowing not only others to shape us, but allowing our opinions of them to enslave us, allowing these things to define us.

In a sense, spending all your time trying not to be controlled by something is still allowing that thing to control you. If everything that you are exists solely to resist something else, who would you be without it?

To me, a detailed and in depth personal story holds more weight than any grand adventure lacking in depth

Well, that was long and kind of off topic, but if you're curious as to why I disagree...

On topic; I really love the band Disturbed (Before Asylum, which was painful). Lots of my friends aren't into it, whom I don't agree with but I usually understand them if they're willing to explain.

I have a couple of friends who straight up HATE this band, and the closest thing to an explanation I've gotten is "It's all just power cords" (I wrote a little about this kind of reasoning above, it kind of applies here).

Which from what I can tell (I'm not a musician) is just not true. Beside, the guitar is just one part of a cohesive whole. There's the drums, the bass and the vocals to think about as well.

I really just don't get it, musics great, lyrics range are serviceable at worst and magnificent at the best of times, David Draiman somehow sounds both melodically beautiful and horrifically grim. ("It's a devil screaming, it's an angel singing" "It's called... Heavy Metal")

I'd actually be curious to know what someone more articulate who hates this band would say as to why. (Seriously, I don't wanna argue,I'm honestly curious)

 

[sumanoskae]

Mass Effect 3's ending.

It wasn't THAT bad people ><

.....
....n.n....nnnnnrrrrr

NNNRRRRAAAAAAAG

no must resist urge to....to....

Need distraction!

oh look! peopel dancing in snuggies!

[img/]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5vaajNrgM1rwkf27o1_400.gif[/img]

... What he said.

Never again, I told myself...

 

[DrunkOnEstus]

Snippage

I honestly never understood some of the disdain halo has gotten from some people.

When people would reference halo in a negative way, it always made me think, in utter surprise, "wait, what? what are you talking about?"

I still can't understand it to this day.

For me, it started a trend of bad design in FPS games compared to the games that built up to it. Regenerating health got rid of those tense situations where you're under 30% and carefully handle what's in front of you as you search for a health pack.

It also started the trends of levels that were linear, where you couldn't get lost and really explored but rather followed the crew and killed whatever was in your way until you reached the end and caused the cutscene.

It also started the trend of not having an arsenal of 9 or more weapons that you manage ammo for and have choice in how to dispatch different types of foes.

I understand all of this is to make the game more "cinematic" and to focus on immersing in the story, but for me it meant sacrificing depth in gameplay and strategy for cinematic immersion and streamlining. I don't think there really needs to be a compromise, we can have both.

Of course this is my opinion, and we're all discussing very subjective matter in this thread. However, I would never criticize a fandom, but rather the subject of their fandom. People love a variety of things and variety is what makes these things so wonderful. Hate is usually projected at homogenization, or the catalysts of it.

 

[Sandjube]

The Star wars prequels. I liked them, nay, loved them. You heard me.

How doo you feel about Jar-Jar Binks?

Yeah, don't mind him.

 

[Bertylicious]

...I suppose it's a little bit like leprosy. It's a horrible disease which deforms its victims though the unfortunate suffers have been reviled throughout history as it was thought that touching them would transmit the disease, that they were unclean.

In reality 95% of the population is immune to leprosy and it isn't anywhere near as contagious as people think it is. Though it isn't a good idea to go rolling around in lepers, they're not that dangerous. What people hated about leprosy, about leppers, was the ugliness and suffering it caused. That came to be projected onto the sufferers.

I reckon the hate comes from a heady mixture of compassion, horror/fear and powerlessness. Like when you hear a baby crying. Your natural impulse is to go and help (the baby is in distress), but you can't because it isn't your baby and to go and help would be inappropriate and possibly trigger a confrontation. Finally the baby won't stop wailing because his or her distress is caused by him or her being outside (babies hate being outside) or covered in shit. All this unresolved emotion makes you angry and hate babies or Mass Effect 3.