The game has issues, but I think the developers were really focused on getting a few aspects perfect and some others suffered a little for it. Honestly from everything you've said (and everything others who hate the game have said) you've been focusing on the wrong parts of this game. Let's be real here, I don't want to hate on you, but you sound like someone looking for a dumb action game and now you're unhappy cause you're playing a really smart action game.
I Hate Metro 2033, and I Blame YOU
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Yeah, that sums up STALKER alright. A "dumb action game" if ever there was one. You...can't see me rolling my eyes, can you? Damn it.abyssion1337 said:
I'm looking for a really smart game in Metro 2033, and I keep finding a really dumb game wearing its clothes.
I'll give it one more chance. The game's ardent defenders have convinced me it deserves one more chance. That's it though. And I worry these amoebas I'm hearing about are going to burn it up.
Checkpoint saving annoys me on principle, and it annoyed me in Mirror's Edge too, but I was never stuck on Mirror's Edge for longer than a minute or two at any given part, and it was usually because I was unclear which way I was meant to be going. It did nothing to help the game (Mirror's Edge is all about momentum and urgency), but it never really got so bad I'd say it ruined the experience. I quite enjoyed Mirror's Edge. All 3-4 hours of it. That's what the "boo" was for in the OP, the absurd shortness of it. That was seriously shameful.lacktheknack said:
And maybe expectations helped here as well. I knew what I was getting with Mirror's Edge. For some reason, I always considered Metro 2033 to be a distant kin to Fallout and STALKER, and hooooo boy it's really not. And yes, ultimately that's on me, but it pleases me to blame you lot instead.
I loved the game, but it definitely had problems. The AI was a bad one- way too smart and accurate.
The thing I really liked? Story, and atmosphere. I haven't played STALKER, but no other game I've seen has quite managed the apocalyptic feeling.
My recommendations?
1. Play on a high difficulty. Enemies die faster, so do you but you have basically no health anyway so you barely notice.
2. Go stealthy pacifist. I don't know, it just made the game seem more fulfilling for me. And I usually don't go pacifist.
3. Wait till the next game. Last Light looks good, and if they've learned from their mistakes it should play much better.
The thing I really liked? Story, and atmosphere. I haven't played STALKER, but no other game I've seen has quite managed the apocalyptic feeling.
My recommendations?
1. Play on a high difficulty. Enemies die faster, so do you but you have basically no health anyway so you barely notice.
2. Go stealthy pacifist. I don't know, it just made the game seem more fulfilling for me. And I usually don't go pacifist.
3. Wait till the next game. Last Light looks good, and if they've learned from their mistakes it should play much better.
I think it's the best looking game available on PC... as do others and it's why many publications were using it as the "new" Crysis benchmark, especially for all the DX11 goodness.Deadyawn said:
P.S. Shitting bricks means you're terrified, is that what you meant?
Metro 2033 is one of those games where people are willing to ignore faults like "broken stealth mechanics" and "average gameplay" in favour of things like "the same setting we've seen five hundred times before!" and "the ridiculously average story that they didn't copy over properly from the novel!"
Yeah, I didn't like it. I honestly don't see it's redeeming features. It felt like going back and replaying Half Life 1, but with a terribly paced storyline.
Yeah, I didn't like it. I honestly don't see it's redeeming features. It felt like going back and replaying Half Life 1, but with a terribly paced storyline.
Oh lord forgive me! Forgive me for my opinions deception! I liked a game and now I caused this poor man to suffer by spreading the falsehood that I couldn't see!
OT: Meh. You hated it, I loved it.
I wasn't too hung up on the checkpoint system. Yeah it sucks but it makes you more wary about dying since it'll mean you have to go through all the previous shit you've just done (something Quicksaving can ruin for me) and it also allows you to re-think your strategies should your first idea go completely tits up. This game only really got into Bullshit territory once you reach the Amoeba's at the end of the game (Here's a fun game! Which one is the Amoeba: the glowing green mutant balls or the guy you're escorting?) but believe me, if it followed the book then it'd be a hell of a lot worse...
OT: Meh. You hated it, I loved it.
I wasn't too hung up on the checkpoint system. Yeah it sucks but it makes you more wary about dying since it'll mean you have to go through all the previous shit you've just done (something Quicksaving can ruin for me) and it also allows you to re-think your strategies should your first idea go completely tits up. This game only really got into Bullshit territory once you reach the Amoeba's at the end of the game (Here's a fun game! Which one is the Amoeba: the glowing green mutant balls or the guy you're escorting?) but believe me, if it followed the book then it'd be a hell of a lot worse...
Don't look at The Kremlin!
I wish my PS3 would let me use my 320GB of hard drive space for more than fucking updates and let me save whenever I want. Save states are my friend, I need to invest some cash in my PC now that I have some cash flow again.tsb247 said:
It's a game with many massive problems, most of which relate to the shooting/stealth mechanics, and the story is not without issues.
But the graphics, art/level design and the little touches like the gas mask combined to make one of the most atmospheric and immersive FPSs I've ever played, and for that I can forgive an enormous amount.
But the graphics, art/level design and the little touches like the gas mask combined to make one of the most atmospheric and immersive FPSs I've ever played, and for that I can forgive an enormous amount.
Wretched little game.
The game's difficulty isn't the issue. The various bugs in the AI, controls and stages add a number of insurmountable hurdles to a title that otherwise might have been playable. As it stands, Metro 2033 is unfinished to the point of being unplayable, and despite the excellent atmosphere the game warrants absolutely none of the praise that some critics gave it.
Just my opinion.
The game's difficulty isn't the issue. The various bugs in the AI, controls and stages add a number of insurmountable hurdles to a title that otherwise might have been playable. As it stands, Metro 2033 is unfinished to the point of being unplayable, and despite the excellent atmosphere the game warrants absolutely none of the praise that some critics gave it.
Just my opinion.
The Amoeba enemies are only hard the first time around because you couldn't see it coming. In subsequent play-throughs you simply stock up on regular ammo and destroy their spawners.J. Mazarin said:
Don't forget the dart gun. That weapon is not only great for stealth, but also owns those gorilla's (Librarians).
OP: I personally enjoyed Metro 2033 a lot, even though it had some issues.
It's a fantastic game. Not sure what your issue is. I played it through the first time on Hardcore (before Ranger update) and, yeah, it was tough, but not too bad. Second and third plays were on Ranger Hardcore. Honestly, just explore every nook and cranny because there's actually a lot of ammo. Also I know you're at that first camp spot with Bourbon. There's a decent amount of baddies to kill but it's really a matter of lining up your shot before you pop out of cover, so you just quickly pop out, shot 1 or 2 rounds, then get back into cover. They don't have time to fire back. You can stealth kill maybe 3 people at that spot, but once you get near the camp fire stealth ain't gonna work.
I seriously love Metro 2033. I made a 30 minute video of it just for kicks.
I seriously love Metro 2033. I made a 30 minute video of it just for kicks.
The best part of that was AFTER spending an hour on that tiny stretch, I got a loading tip saying you can can destroy their spawners. WTF GAME?!hazabaza1 said:
OT: Yes, checkpointed stealth sections are the WORST. Checkpoints are bad enough IMO, because it's like going backwards from developed game features. I blame the damn consoles.
I really don't know what to say. I didn't find it crazy hard, nor did I have many major grievances. I thought it looked great, played great, I liked the Russian twist and underground train thing. I played it on PC as well and don't remember having any issues with it.
This was your first mistake. Never blame others. Sure take advice from others and hear their thoughts but if you really want to get a game it is YOUR choice. No one held you at gunpoint to buy this game. I never played it honestly but just because a group of people love a game and praise it doesn't mean you will. EVERYONE has different tastes in video games. So it wasn't false advertising. False advertising is what you see around in the world today with women impossibly skinny/beautiful faces in magazines billboards.BloatedGuppy said:
You see its flaws in the game and you see the good in it as well from what I read. Is the game mechanics really holding you back from enjoying this game?BloatedGuppy said:
I am not trying to flame you I am honestly just trying to understand why you think it is the forum members fault for you to buy this game and not like it...
So does it fix any of the other issue that totally destroy the games immersion? I doubt it. Metro 2033 deserves any and all hate it gets, simply because their is potential for a really good game lying there and all the things that turn it in to a crap game are gameplay mechanics that have not just been done better once or twice but been done better by just about every game that has come before it and used those game play mechanics.
Personally I really liked the game. Yeah it has a lot of flaws, like the fact that enemies don't die from headshots any quicker(although the Ranger mode fixes that), stealth, those fucking amoebas and so on.
I also had one those first world problems with the language. Since the English voice acting is pretty bad occasionally, I decided to switch to Russian and put subtitles in English. Russian voice acting is better imo and that also felt more immersive since you know, the game is set in Russia. But since I don't understand Russian, I missed a lot of background dialogue which wasn't subtitled and had to constantly look at the text during the game. Eventually kept it in Russian though, because the background dialogue is nonexistant towards the end of the game.
The game has an awesome soundtrack and a really good atmosphere and I still would recommend it even though it is frustrating at times. I also have been meaning to read the book for some time now.
I also had one those first world problems with the language. Since the English voice acting is pretty bad occasionally, I decided to switch to Russian and put subtitles in English. Russian voice acting is better imo and that also felt more immersive since you know, the game is set in Russia. But since I don't understand Russian, I missed a lot of background dialogue which wasn't subtitled and had to constantly look at the text during the game. Eventually kept it in Russian though, because the background dialogue is nonexistant towards the end of the game.
The game has an awesome soundtrack and a really good atmosphere and I still would recommend it even though it is frustrating at times. I also have been meaning to read the book for some time now.