Actually, DoWII was surprisingly laid-back. GFWL isn't that big of a hassle and is used to track Achievements and friends lists, and Steam is incredibly nice. Shamus' problem with GTA4 is that it didn't use any of the GFWL features, which rendered even having it utterly pointless.CD-R said:This is the exact reason why I won't get Dawn of War II. It requires both Steam and Games for Windows Live.
Agreed. Steam is nice, and GFWL... well, it could definitely be better, but it's not too annoying when you don't want it around.TheMirai said:This was why Final Fantasy XI Online was such a piece of crap - signing up for two completely different services and installing from like six discs was pure torture.
Actually, DoWII was surprisingly laid-back. GFWL isn't that big of a hassle and is used to track Achievements and friends lists, and Steam is incredibly nice. Shamus' problem with GTA4 is that it didn't use any of the GFWL features, which rendered even having it utterly pointless.CD-R said:This is the exact reason why I won't get Dawn of War II. It requires both Steam and Games for Windows Live.
Of services, GFWL and Steam are about the only ones worth stomaching.
They understand it they just don't want to surrender to Valve. This is of course why I favor the content providers getting together and coming up with a single OS not under the control of one company and building games for that. Not having to concern myself with a Windows upgrade every three or four years just to make sure I will be able to play the latest games when all I use windows for on my home machine is gaming would be nice.AC10 said:You know, I've only read a few of Shamus Young's articles on the escapist but the immense amount of common sense he commands makes me think I should read the rest.
IMO if we HAVE to go with a digital system, for the love of fuck, please let it be steam. Impulse doesn't have the pull, EA's store sucks ass in that you can only download your purchases for a fixed amount of time, and it's short too, like 6 months or something. You can of course PAY THEM to extend this, fuck that.
Steam remembers my shit, has great deals, has a very impressive uptime, a good UI and built in community features: Store saves, config options, chatrooms, groups, profiles, friends, achievements and they also host servers now.
And stop putting securom and install limits on games, no one likes that shit. Steam IS DRM and I don't know why upper management doesn't understand that.
Anyways, I'm a gamer. I've been gaming on PC and consoles since I've been 4, but the PC seems to have grown up with me, always there, always providing me with new stuff. As such it is by and far my favorite gaming platform. It really makes me sad to see what it's all come down to.
I'd be down for that, but we both know it's VERY unlikely to happenshadow skill said:They understand it they just don't want to surrender to Valve. This is of course why I favor the content providers getting together and coming up with a single OS not under the control of one company and building games for that. Not having to concern myself with a Windows upgrade every three or four years just to make sure I will be able to play the latest games when all I use windows for on my home machine is gaming would be nice.AC10 said:You know, I've only read a few of Shamus Young's articles on the escapist but the immense amount of common sense he commands makes me think I should read the rest.
IMO if we HAVE to go with a digital system, for the love of fuck, please let it be steam. Impulse doesn't have the pull, EA's store sucks ass in that you can only download your purchases for a fixed amount of time, and it's short too, like 6 months or something. You can of course PAY THEM to extend this, fuck that.
Steam remembers my shit, has great deals, has a very impressive uptime, a good UI and built in community features: Store saves, config options, chatrooms, groups, profiles, friends, achievements and they also host servers now.
And stop putting securom and install limits on games, no one likes that shit. Steam IS DRM and I don't know why upper management doesn't understand that.
Anyways, I'm a gamer. I've been gaming on PC and consoles since I've been 4, but the PC seems to have grown up with me, always there, always providing me with new stuff. As such it is by and far my favorite gaming platform. It really makes me sad to see what it's all come down to.
Right now that is how I feel exactly.The Random One said:Aaaaaand that's why I prefer consoles.
Not that they're much better, but at least they're honest about how they screw you over.
Thanks for clearing that up.Island Dog said:The article makes references that you have to have a client running into order to play a given game. While this is true for some, in regards to Impulse it is not required to be open or in the background to play a game. You can simply purchase a game, install it via Impulse and play without having it running.
Impulse does have Impulse Now, a tray client, which can be run in the background for access to community features, checking for updates, etc. However, it is not required and can be easily disabled if the user does not want access to those features.
-Spencer (Stardock)
You're usually downloading the last bit of the game that they didn't put on the disc. One of the biggest sources of pirate game releases are the companies that manufacture the discs. By removing a few, small critical bits and having you download them after you install the game, they can usually eliminate a lot of the pre-launch piracy (and counterfeiting). It's not a great solution, but I can't think of a better way around that problem.xyrafhoan said:However, I'm miffed by the insistance that I MUST download the game through Steam even if I buy a physical copy!
That's because the Xbox360 controller is also Microsoft's official gamepad for Windows. They sell a version with different packaging and a driver disc in the PC section of many stores.shadow skill said:Notice how fewer and fewer games support anything other than 360 gamepads, or if they do everything is defaulted to the Xbox controller conventions?
Wow, nice one.Monkeyman8 said:or we could just get rid of consoles so that developers stop thinking this is a good idea cause, "Hey look, the console tards don't mind this BS, let's force it on the PC gamers."londelen said:Solution to the problem of PC gaming: make a keyboard & mouse peripheral for the consoles.