I....just....don't even.......what?

[Geo Da Sponge]

"You don't have to use shooting. You can use, for example, a princess which has a magic wand and whenever she touches something, it turns into a butterfly and sparkles."

Remember kids, ending the life of a sentient being is fine so long as it's pretty!

 

[Qitz]

"You don't have to use shooting. You can use, for example, a princess which has a magic wand and whenever she touches something, it turns into a butterfly and sparkles."

I would play that. That would be the best damn shooter ever! What wouldn't be hyper violet about twisting and contorting a persons very DNA to transfix them into short-life creatures and exploded particles?

GTA couldn't top that shit.

 

[Phasmal]

Well, I just found the article I will use when anyone asks why women aren't taken seriously.

Why does this remind me of this?
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/how_it_works.png

Just cause one woman is weirdly uneducated about female gamers doesnt mean we all need to suffer for it.

 

[LarenzoAOG]

That wouldn't work at all, where is the conflict that keeps us enthralled?

After you turn the target into sparkling butterflies, they turn on you. Presumably.

Alright you have the conflict but it is entirely at the behest of the player, that game would be deeply flawed for sure.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

BEST CASE SCENARIO:

She was using an intentionally extreme example to prove a point, and you guys are the morons for missing it.

WORST CASE SCENARIO:

She made the mistake of taking a subject she knew very little about and talking about it anyway. And since it's obvious she doesn't really know what she's talking about, she should be ignored.

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Either way, there is no reason for a hate-fest. This kind of insane defensiveness is one of the things that makes gamers so hard to take seriously. Just relax.

 

[cryogeist]

is it ironic that as i read this my mom is playing CoD:BlOps?
OT:i dont even know how to respond to that...i really dont

 

[Atmos Duality]

Touching something and turning it into girly shit wouldn't terrify most souls, but most souls aren't Manuel Calavera.
Beware the Sprouters!

 

[Hero in a half shell]

I don't think she said anything wrong.

In her defence that statement she made was highly contextual: as a direct response to someone saying that videogames cannot be used as education because of the high levels of realistic violence in them. She just gave a quick response of a completely hypothetical example where you can have the same sort of gameplay as a shooter, without the severed limbs and exploding heads.
In fact she probably deliberately made the example as girly and childish as possible to show that the games could be completely suitable to the type of people that watch My Little Pony.

 

[The Heik]

"As you know, most of us females just hate those action video games," she said. "You don't have to use shooting. You can use, for example, a princess which has a magic wand and whenever she touches something, it turns into a butterfly and sparkles."

Do you know what's ironic about this statement? This discriminating dunce actually found a far more torturous way to end a creature's life than the standard "violent" gun. A bullet, if fired in the right place (ie heart, brain, neck etc) can end a being's life in a quick and "relatively" painless fashion. Turning someone into a flock of butterflies would however, be ripping the whole fibre of their being, which means that for however long that process takes, each and every last single nerve in the target's body would be screaming in agony as they are torn apart and remade into their new form. That's flamethrower/acid spray level pain we're talking about here.

 

[Vicarious Reality]

I opened this thread twice, because i had no idea of what the content of the thread was.

 

[LobsterFeng]

Maybe it could work as a satire of some sort. Like it would show why it's wrong to think that all girls like that kind of stuff.

 

[Jadak]

That wouldn't work at all, where is the conflict that keeps us enthralled?

After you turn the target into sparkling butterflies, they turn on you. Presumably.

Alright you have the conflict but it is entirely at the behest of the player, that game would be deeply flawed for sure.

Nonsense, the butterflies only exist because you created them out of an existing hostile element, likely a zombie of some sort.

So really, it's a tactical choice, zombie or butterfly swarm? (may or may not be zombie butterflies)

 

[LarenzoAOG]

That wouldn't work at all, where is the conflict that keeps us enthralled?

After you turn the target into sparkling butterflies, they turn on you. Presumably.

Alright you have the conflict but it is entirely at the behest of the player, that game would be deeply flawed for sure.

Nonsense, the butterflies only exist because you created them out of an existing hostile element, likely a zombie of some sort.

So really, it's a tactical choice, zombie or butterfly swarm? (may or may not be zombie butterflies)

So you're turning one enemy into another? That's a silly game mechanic, and since I assume that the butterflies would pose less of a threat to the player than any difficulty or strategy would be thrown right out the windo.

 

[Don Savik]

Oh boy! I get to use this again.
Now on to something less PC (sorry):
So let me get this straight... In order for females to have fun, a woman in authority has to touch them with a magical wand to make their butterfly sparkly?

I thought that was only certain girls...

Dammit man, I was going to be a norn. GUESS IM AN ASURA NOW >:/

 

[jawakiller]

"You don't have to use shooting.
I would play that. That would be the best damn shooter ever! What wouldn't be hyper violet about twisting and contorting a persons very DNA to transfix them into short-life creatures and exploded particles?

GTA couldn't top that shit.

I laughed so hard I woke my roommate up, who promptly verbally attacked my mother then fell back asleep.

Thanks.

I think this lady's more violet than me. A lot more.

 

[Astoria]

I think this is a good thread for this.


She sure has us female gamers all worked out. We just hate COD and all those silly man games. Really, what was she thinking when she said this though? Even female friends I have that have no interest in gaming at all still won't scoff at playing COD during a gaming night with friends. Oh well, her problem if she want to have this sort of view on things.

 

[Jadak]

That wouldn't work at all, where is the conflict that keeps us enthralled?

After you turn the target into sparkling butterflies, they turn on you. Presumably.

Alright you have the conflict but it is entirely at the behest of the player, that game would be deeply flawed for sure.

Nonsense, the butterflies only exist because you created them out of an existing hostile element, likely a zombie of some sort.

So really, it's a tactical choice, zombie or butterfly swarm? (may or may not be zombie butterflies)

So you're turning one enemy into another? That's a silly game mechanic, and since I assume that the butterflies would pose less of a threat to the player than any difficulty or strategy would be thrown right out the windo.

You've clearly never been attacked by a swarm of butterflies, nevermind zombie butterflies. Less of a threat? Pfft.

 

[Aljarel]

I don't think she said anything wrong.

In her defence that statement she made was highly contextual: as a direct response to someone saying that videogames cannot be used as education because of the high levels of realistic violence in them. She just gave a quick response of a completely hypothetical example where you can have the same sort of gameplay as a shooter, without the severed limbs and exploding heads.
In fact she probably deliberately made the example as girly and childish as possible to show that the games could be completely suitable to the type of people that watch My Little Pony.

That is exactly the right thing. Her research makes a point of games being able to massively improve cognitive performance. These changes are persistent for years after "game training" and improve non gaming related tasks as well.

One of the main points is that this effect should be harnessed for education and training. The only problem is that children should not be confronted with violent action games. This is a problem. When asked about this problem she replied that fast-paced action video games do not necessarily involve violent action.

Her example is a hypothetical case that could indeed work as a first person shooter game and would not rely on violence although keeping the fast paced action part. Actually non-violent FPS have already been tried (Nerf Arena Blast for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerf_Arena_Blast )

The other point why she chose the princess and the magic wand is that it is infact problematic to get women to play fast-paced action games. Mostly because of the violence. She did not imply that all women want princesses and magic wands to play with.

I hope that puts her comment in perspective. She is actually doing great research and the results are abolutely amazing.

 

[brenz]

BEST CASE SCENARIO:

She was using an intentionally extreme example to prove a point, and you guys are the morons for missing it.

WORST CASE SCENARIO:

She made the mistake of taking a subject she knew very little about and talking about it anyway. And since it's obvious she doesn't really know what she's talking about, she should be ignored.

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Either way, there is no reason for a hate-fest. This kind of insane defensiveness is one of the things that makes gamers so hard to take seriously. Just relax.

Your funny

 

[Najos]

Yeah, that quote in context seems more like a tongue-in-cheek statement than a serious statement. We're talking about someone who most likely has legitimate research experience. It would be...really unusual for such a person to make such a stereotypical generalization.