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Roboshi said:
Okay the lore of the game says that the GUN part doesn't actually fire, it instead has a small explosion in the revolver part of the weapon that makes the blade vibrate doing more damage. Squall probably reloads it between battles and I think we're supposed to go with the metal being stronger than real life metals.

EDIT; Taken from the FF wiki "Despite its name, it cannot be used as a gun, meaning it does not fire projectiles, and can therefore only be used in melee combat, making it more like a gun supplementing a sword than a blade supplementing a firearm, e.g. a bayonet on a rifle. The firing of the gunblade's rounds induces a tremor in the blade causing it to deal additional damage to whatever it strikes."
Sweet! Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it! I have literally wondered that for years!
 

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crazyarms33 said:
Okay the lore of the game says that the GUN part doesn't actually fire, it instead has a small explosion in the revolver part of the weapon that makes the blade vibrate doing more damage. Squall probably reloads it between battles and I think we're supposed to go with the metal being stronger than real life metals.

EDIT; Taken from the FF wiki "Despite its name, it cannot be used as a gun, meaning it does not fire projectiles, and can therefore only be used in melee combat, making it more like a gun supplementing a sword than a blade supplementing a firearm, e.g. a bayonet on a rifle. The firing of the gunblade's rounds induces a tremor in the blade causing it to deal additional damage to whatever it strikes."
Which ironically, makes it worse then both a gun and a sword, since it has the strengths of neither. There were real-life sword-guns, but it turns out, nobody really liked them for combat and they pretty much became collectors items. Instead of getting the best of both worlds, you were stuck with a weapon that wasn't easy to shoot or stab with.
 

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Did you like the Junction mechanic and do you hope to see it being implemented in future titles?
 

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Uggghhhh. Look I don't 'hate it'. Hate is a strong feeling and it's not that. It's ...borderline apathy, combined with some itchy arsehole about it technically receiving better scores and love than Nine, that saddens me. So it feels like irritation when really I can tolerate playing it fine. I just don't come back to it often.
 

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Why on earth did Laguna abandon his family when they needed him? Saying he was busy isn't good enough. He led a nation. He could send some special forces dudes to grab them if he wanted to. He tried it later, after all.

How did no one notice they were all orphans who grew up together? I get that their memories are gone, but you would think they'd piece it together earlier. Or at least realize their memories have awful gaps. Like Squall lamenting the loss of his sister while she's, like, two feet in front of him.

Why do people hate poor Cloud for being emo when Squall really IS emo? Is it his kicking wardrobe? It's Squall's kicking wardrobe, isn't it? Why does anyone hate either of them when Tidus is a thing? Why is Tidus a thing

Woah. Woah. WOAH. Why is Tidus a thing? At least Tidus got some character development. The better question is why Was Vaan a thing? The only redeemable characters from 12 were Basch and possibly the sky pirate.

I guess that can count as my question but if its got to have at least something FF8 related to it then how about this, The heroes from FF8 have to duke it out with the Team fortress....team In a series of 1v1 battles. The winner takes fight Naked snake organizer of the tournament to see who the best mercenaries in the multiverse are. Who fights who and which person ultimately wins? Bonus question, how many piles or corpses litter the battlefield from the tournaments which took place before he got round to this one?
 

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johnnyLupine said:
Fox12 said:
Why on earth did Laguna abandon his family when they needed him? Saying he was busy isn't good enough. He led a nation. He could send some special forces dudes to grab them if he wanted to. He tried it later, after all.

How did no one notice they were all orphans who grew up together? I get that their memories are gone, but you would think they'd piece it together earlier. Or at least realize their memories have awful gaps. Like Squall lamenting the loss of his sister while she's, like, two feet in front of him.

Why do people hate poor Cloud for being emo when Squall really IS emo? Is it his kicking wardrobe? It's Squall's kicking wardrobe, isn't it? Why does anyone hate either of them when Tidus is a thing? Why is Tidus a thing

Woah. Woah. WOAH. Why is Tidus a thing? At least Tidus got some character development. The better question is why Was Vaan a thing? The only redeemable characters from 12 were Basch and possibly the sky pirate.

I guess that can count as my question but if its got to have at least something FF8 related to it then how about this, The heroes from FF8 have to duke it out with the Team fortress....team In a series of 1v1 battles. The winner takes on the fight Naked snake organized the fight to see who the best mercenaries are. Who fights who and which person ultimately wins?
Well, Leon could win, but he'd be too busy sulking in the corner to do much. The Heavy beats him into submission. His girlfriend wouldn't fare much better, not being much of a fighter. She'd be set ablaze. Irvine would get The Sniper in his sights, but then he'd get nervous and cower in the corner until The Sniper finishes him with a series of headshots. Selfie can't pay attention to her surroundings, so it's an easy job for the Assasin to finish her. So who wins this game of skill? Well...

 

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No, it's a closed loop because it's inescapable. Indeed, Ultimecia always dies, but in her death she resets the events to restart from the beginning.

So for the third time: the only way for there to be an "out" for the time loop is to prevent Ultimecia from travelling back in time to give Edea the sorceress power in the first place. This does not happen, and as such the loop plays on for eternity. Ultimecia may not have won, but she effectively ends the world by ensuring that it can never progress beyond her death.
Whoa-whoa-whoa! Halt! What do you mean "time can never progress beyond her death"? Like hell it can't. After her death at the end of FF8 time goes back to normal. This means that in the year 20xx or whatever she rules the world, it would simply look like that a bunch of SeeDs materialized out of nowhere, killed her off and disappeared right after. Time keeps moving on minding its own business.

Remember, this is a time loop, not a groundhog-day loop. Everyone involved only experiences the events once, only us, the outside observers are aware that the end of the loop sets up the beginning of the loop.

Lets break down the timeline, shall we?
One day Matron meets a Sorceress from the future that grants her the Sorceress powers, thus turning her into Edea. Flash forward and the kids that Matron was watching over are all now a bunch of angsty twits who go on their heroic quest. This quest ends with the resurrection of Ultimecia
Wait, halt again! What do you mean "resurrection"? Nobody resurrects Ultimecia, she exists in the future as part of the timeline. She is only sending her consciousness back from the future to control sorceresses in the past, the actual, physical Ultimecia is safe and snug in the future (well, until she gets the bright idea to compress time, because the best way to avoid being killed by the legendary historical SeeD from the past is by making them able to travel through time, amirite?)


...who then activates her time compression. The angsty twits defeat her, thus ending the time compression with a almost-dead Ultimecia ending up in front of a young Matron who she grants the Sorceress powers to, thus turning her into Edea. Rinse and repeat for all eternity.
Halt, halt, halt for the third time! What do you mean all eternity? It only happens once. Once Ultimecia gives over her powers, she is dead, Squall and co. gets to live out the rest of their lives, the world moves on, then a hundred or whatever years later Ultimecia shows up, big war breaks out, she tries to stop the SeeD from the past assassinating her (which she knows about because duh, history books), causes time-compression, then gets offed, time compression ends, she disappears from her own timeline and people in the future get to live happily ever after too. As I said, everyone only experience any given event once single time and Ultimecia's death doesn't magically delete the future either.

Going back in time was Ultimecia's ace in the hole, a way to ensure she could one day get resurrected and have another go at things.
No, it was not part of her plan, nor was she resurrected, nor did she "get another go at things", because she was DEAD.

So, either her fate can be changed and at some point she'll actually win out, or her fate cannot be changed and she's eternally doomed to failure. "Best case scenario" for breaking the loop is Ultimecia eventually wins out. Otherwise she successfully locks the world in a never-ending time loop, because the heroes certainly can't stop her from going back in time without causing a universe-shattering paradox.

Either way: the events of the game are utterly pointless.
No, it's just that you confuse the type of time-loop we are talking about here.

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Yes we see the party during the credit sequence - happening in their own time period. Imagine if the events of Discs 1 to 3 happen in Year 1 and Ultimecia lives in Year 1000, the party we see after her defeat happens in Year 1. Time would continue to flow from Year 1 to Year 1000, but once Year 1000 rolls around again and Squall and Co. pop out of nowhere and confront Ultimecia, then time loops again. It cannot progress beyond the point of the confrontation.
That doesn't necessarily follow. That assumes that after the Time Compression fails, time resets to Year 1, only to progress the same way again-- its just as possible that when the Time Compression failed, time didn't "reset" to any specific moment, but rather everything was defaulted back to its own period to exist as it otherwise would have done. That would mean Squall is sent back to his own period, and the future would carry on past Ultimecia's failed experiment.
Correct, thank you.
 

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I recently downloaded FF8 off of Steam, and have found it more or less unplayable. The fucking battles...So the easiest/quickest/most efficient way to win a battle is to spam the GF button. Over and over again. I feel like I spent 2 of the 3 hours I tried to play this game watching the same three GF summon animations. I had no issue with this as a youngster, but now it's just fucking unbearable.
 

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What did you think of spoonyones review of it?
Spoony's review was rather funny and he made some legit comments about the design. However, he also made several mistakes regarding the plot and often equated "I don't like this design choice" with "this is a BAD design choice", a problem which has only gotten worse with Spoony's reviews as of late (apart from the amazing spiderman 2 vlog he did, that film was trash).

One of the major problems he found was understanding that magic and technology were working together AND against one another in this world. Hence there is technology to both enable magic and to nullify it. An Anti-magic field may have been a plot convinience, but it also made sense in the world they had.

I recently downloaded FF8 off of Steam, and have found it more or less unplayable. The fucking battles...So the easiest/quickest/most efficient way to win a battle is to spam the GF button. Over and over again. I feel like I spent 2 of the 3 hours I tried to play this game watching the same three GF summon animations. I had no issue with this as a youngster, but now it's just fucking unbearable.
Then don't spam the same GF's, they may be powerful, but you will meet a wall if you do this. The game give multiple oportunities to use your juntioning to expand your ability list and stategies.

Also one minor point; If you get FF8 on steam, MOD THE MUSIC. Seriously, the Music in FF8 is some of the best in the entire franchise and the steam version is just a port of the terrible PC version and hence has MIDI format music. check out the "Roses and wine" mod for a better listening experience.
 

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Which ironically, makes it worse then both a gun and a sword, since it has the strengths of neither. There were real-life sword-guns, but it turns out, nobody really liked them for combat and they pretty much became collectors items. Instead of getting the best of both worlds, you were stuck with a weapon that wasn't easy to shoot or stab with.
True, in the REAL world, a gunblade would not work. But then neither would a megaphone controlled moogle toy or throwing a spear by hand.
 

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Yeahhh, I bet they just wanted an excuse to go into space. The space parts were pretty great, to be fair. The main thing that just stops me replaying it as often as I replay 7 or 9 is just the characters though. They're not really likeable. Any of them!

I have a good question that'll test your knowledge actually. What's the easiest way to get overpowered as early as possible?
You do not like Selphie? who does not like selphie?
 

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The game is a convoluted mess. Both in story and game play. The characters lack substance and most are grating and obnoxious, especially whiny ass Squall. The love story was weird and felt a bit forced at times. Especially compared to IV, VI, VII, and IX.

The music is pretty awesome, though (except that really crappy love song), and the graphics surprisingly hold up rather well while VII looks dated as all hell. It is a very pretty game at times, and I think it does the best of showing off how powerful the PS1 could be.

I consider the game as the second worst of the main series overall, despite it being the first Final Fantasy game I ever played. However, I can probably still go back and play the game for nostalgia purposes.

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You do not like Selphie? who does not like selphie?
Selphie is the most air-headed, annoying, ditzy school girl trope of all time. There are plenty of reasons to not like her character. <.<
 

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Ok, here is my question:

Why should I ask you anything about a game that's like 15 years old?

Seriously, I don't really understand these "I'm a somebody, ask me stuff" threads.
 

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Reasonable Atheist said:
You do not like Selphie? who does not like selphie?
Ner sorry. As Orga777 said, she's just that airhead school girl trope. But she's the most annoying version of it. I really didn't like a single character in 8. I enjoyed the game a lot at the time. But that complete lack of connection with any character has been a big hurdle stopping me going back to it. As opposed to FF9, where I like nearly every character.
 

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Reasonable Atheist said:
You do not like Selphie? who does not like selphie?
*Raises hand*

I don't.

Happyninja42 said:
Ok, here is my question:

Why should I ask you anything about a game that's like 15 years old?

Seriously, I don't really understand these "I'm a somebody, ask me stuff" threads.
Well, presumably because the OP felt that since FF8 gets massive flak and he likes it, he would want to address things in an open discussion. Whereas, I'm about to do one because it'll might be FUNNY.
 

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Would you be at all interested in a prequel/sequel/remake of Final Fantasy VIII? To think there are so many unanswered questions that come along with this game that it is nearly a nessesity. Squall's dead, Rinoa is Ultimecia, is Laguna Squall's father? I have put together a petition, and I know this is maybe not the place for this, but with seven getting a remake, I gotta strike while the iron is hot... Sign it at - [Mod edit: link removed.]
 

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Would you be at all interested in a prequel/sequel/remake of Final Fantasy VIII? To think there are so many unanswered questions that come along with this game that it is nearly a nessesity. Squall's dead, Rinoa is Ultimecia, is Laguna Squall's father? I have put together a petition, and I know this is maybe not the place for this, but with seven getting a remake, I gotta strike while the iron is hot... Sign it at - [Mod edit: link removed.]