I like twilight.

[spartan231490]

I used that for the heading cuz I knew it would attract attention, and prolly hatred as well. That said, almost everyone I know hates twilight because the vampires are sparkly. I like the fact that Stephanie Meyer didn't just rewrite dracula, but decided to reinterperit the legends. Why does everyone jump on the fact that she did this?v Nobody complains that the book Peeps changed the myths. Nobody complains that the Mercedes Thompson series and Alpha and omega series changed the werewolve myths. Is it just that these people are looking for some reason for thier hatred of the series?

Many people also complain about the books because they are "poorly written". This is not true. What she did, is she had a specific target audience: teenage females. Knowing this, she didnt waste her time trying to write with language or themes or dialogue they wouldn't understand. I have seen soooo many books with a good premise ruined because the author set their sights too high and was unable to write well enough to do what they tried to do. For these reasons, I respect Stephanie Meyers for being innovative, and for not trying to write a book in a way she was unable to accomplish.

Does anyone agree with me?

 

[Sarah Kerrigan]

I liked Twilight too.

The only thing I did not like was how they made the movie completly horrible. i thought the books were extremely awesome, and I picture Jacob like Taylor Lautner....he just doesn't play a really good Jacob.

 

[spartan231490]

I thought the movies were pretty good. . .
For book movies. lol

 

[Marter]

I didn't like it, but you are most certainly entitled to your opinion. I'm glad you were able to get a good amount of enjoyment out of it.

 

[Scumpernickle]

Eh, not very fond of the whole vampire romance, just doesn't appeal to me. I've never seen the movies or read the books so I can't complain.

Neutral feelings for it.

 

[SnootyEnglishman]

The books i can handle because well they're books. The think i can't stand about twilight are the movies and the super hyper fan-girls that support them.

 

[Karathos]

I read the first book just to see what the uproar of both hatred and love was about, and I must say I didn't really enjoy it. I rather dislike what it turned (especially) vampires into, and have this niggling feeling that Bram Stoker's turning in his grave even now . But eh, it's all a matter of taste, as are most things concerning literature or movies.

 

[AboveUp]

If you like something, like it.
If you dislike something, dislike it.

If you like something but pretend you don't because it's not popular or vice versa, there's something wrong with you. I don't personally like Twilight, but if you like it, that's good for you.

That's all I have to say on this subject. Now let's watch this thing turn into a painful flame thread by Twilight haters.

 

[jamesworkshop]

I used that for the heading cuz I knew it would attract attention, and prolly hatred as well. That said, almost everyone I know hates twilight because the vampires are sparkly. I like the fact that Stephanie Meyer didn't just rewrite dracula, but decided to reinterperit the legends. Why does everyone jump on the fact that she did this?v Nobody complains that the book Peeps changed the myths. Nobody complains that the Mercedes Thompson series and Alpha and omega series changed the werewolve myths. Is it just that these people are looking for some reason for thier hatred of the series?

Many people also complain about the books because they are "poorly written". This is not true. What she did, is she had a specific target audience: teenage females. Knowing this, she didnt waste her time trying to write with language or themes or dialogue they wouldn't understand. I have seen soooo many books with a good premise ruined because the author set their sights too high and was unable to write well enough to do what they tried to do. For these reasons, I respect Stephanie Meyers for being innovative, and for not trying to write a book in a way she was unable to accomplish.

Does anyone agree with me?

I think you're confusing depth/narrative with writing quality

 

[Slaanax]

I don't care, I think its funny how much people hate it never reading the books or never watched the movie.

 

[Shockolate]

Popular things are popular for a reason. People like them.

I for one have not read to books, nor watched the movies because they do not interest me, so I refuse judgement.

 

[LavaLampBamboo]

People don't like it because they (read; I) feel it's not a very good interpretation of a classic myth. The whole "emotional trainwreck" doesn't appeal to people who think regular vampires are cool, and the vampires never seem to be particularly vampiric. You never saw Edward stalking his prey then doing them in. That'd of been more exciting.

 

[MortalForNow]

Your opinion is your opinion. I'm not one who says that it was trying to change the history of the vampire, but the cultural phenomenon surrounding it seems to have done exactly that for me.

Seriously, if I were to ask most of the girls I know whether a picture of Dracula or Edward Cullen is the vampire, they would most likely choose Edward.

I myself have stayed away from both the movies and books (me being a guy and all) but I don't rip into other people's opinions and say that they're wrong. I prefer blood-sucking, badass, creepy vampires. If you like Twilight, I may disagree in opinion, but agree with your right to have that opinion.

Really, I don't know why more people just don't look back at what Voltaire had said:
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."

We could all use a lesson from what this intelligent person has said.

 

[spartan231490]

So your saying she dumbed it down specifically for teenage girls?? Did you just call the target audience for Twilight stupid?

What? Hmm im confused muself error error does not compute.

I'm saying that, knowing her target audience, she knew she didn't have to write a classic, it only had to be good. So she didn't try to write a classic, and she succeeded in writing a good book.

also, jamesworkshop, maybe I am, but I think I have read enough books to know the difference. From 'The Scarlet Letter' and 'MacBeth' and 'Lord of The Rings', to 'Deltora Quest' and 'The Supernaturals' and 'Artemis Fowl.'

 

[alloneword]

Here is my Twilight tale of woe.

While browsing through a bookstore with my roomate one time, we saw a rather large front display of the 4 Twilight books. Wanting to try and figure out why these books were so popular, we each bought 2 of them and dove in.

Having more free time than him, I finished the series sooner. When he finally finished Breaking Dawn, he looked up at me and said "I don't get it." Granted, neither of us are teenage girls, but we both walked away with a strange sensation like we had just been robbed for the cost of these four books.

Personally, I have no strong feelings about Twilight one way or another. It is just as valid a piece of literature as anything else. My problems come with certain points.

1) Yes, she was trying to change vampires and I can respect that. HOWEVER, in doing that she made them not scary, which is why Vampires exist in the first place.

2) The first two books were the same story, with a different guy. If Twilight and New Moon had been condensed into one book the franchise as a whole would have been much better.

3) Bella whined way to much, and I honestly worry that having her as a something of a role model, younger girls will get it into their heads that chasing after one person with un-healthy abandon is a good idea.

Now, Stephanie Meyer is by no means a bad author. Her newer book The Host is actually quite good, but she gained her footing and a following with a book that could have been much much better.

 

[spartan231490]

Your opinion is your opinion. I'm not one who says that it was trying to change the history of the vampire, but the cultural phenomenon surrounding it seems to have done exactly that for me.

Seriously, if I were to ask most of the girls I know whether a picture of Dracula or Edward Cullen is the vampire, they would most likely choose Edward.

I myself have stayed away from both the movies and books (me being a guy and all) but I don't rip into other people's opinions and say that they're wrong. I prefer blood-sucking, badass, creepy vampires. If you like Twilight, I may disagree in opinion, but agree with your right to have that opinion.

Really, I don't know why more people just don't look back at what Voltaire had said:
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."

We could all use a lesson from what this intelligent person has said.

I like old style vamps too, like 'Vampire Huntress Series', but I like the fact that Meyers did something new with the old legends.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

I don't particularly care for Twilight, but I certainly don't hate it. I do think the sparkly vampires thing is a bit lame, but I'm certainly not on the bandwagon of "OMFG VAMPIRES HAVE BEEN RUINED FOREVER!! AHHHHH!!!!!!!!!"
Personally I cannot understand how or why people can devote so much into hating something, whether it be Twilight, or the Star Wars Prequels, or anything. There is absolutely nothing in this Universe that I can possibly imagine hating that much.

 

[Drakmeire]

expecting waves of profanity and insults in 3....2....1....
well before that happens i would just like to state that I believe twilight is a very poorly written series that is clearly made up of the same words over and over again run though a thesaurus and that it ruined the idea that vampires can be taken seriously. there is barely a plot in the books outside of
Edward:I wanted to eat you but now I love you because I can't read your mind (presumably because Bella has no thoughts) but I have to go or i still might eat you
Bella: I'm sad because I have no life outside of my sociopathic abusive boyfriend so now I'll kill myself"
*boring werewolf boy appears*
*edward thinks bella is dead so he trys to kill himself*
Edward: wait your alive, lets get married dispute me leaving you for no reason and us having absolutely nothing in common dispute being suicidal.
*vampire marrage, vampire sex, vampire birth with a fang Cesarean (Wait... WHAT!?!) vampire baby born, werewolf boy falls in love with newborn baby for some reason*
werewolf boy:Oh my god! I'm in love this 1 day old baby! but I will wait for her to be legal.
*baby ages to adulthood (which is 17 in the book for some reason) in like a week*
*evil vampires and werewolves show up for epic battle*
*they figh--- no wait, they settle their differences through TALKING for about 30 pages*
*end of series*

 

[Instant K4rma]

Ok, you like Twilight. I like Eric Clapton and Pulp Fiction. Your opinion is your opinion. It shouldn't matter how many people either like it or hate it. If you like it, fine by me. I don't see a big deal in liking something that someone else doesn't, or vice versa. It's all just our opinions.

 

[spartan231490]

So what you are saying is. Since her target audience is a bunch of fucking retards its okay that she just stole every single part of her books from far better authors without even trying to link her "plot points"?

No. Just no.
Please report to the concentration re-education camps for sterilising processing.

And as for the Mercedes whatever books. Yes, they are shit but they are relatively unknown compared to Twilight.
In fact most urban fantasy is utter horseshit but Twilight is the biggest fish in that foetid, open sewer pipe of a pond so it attracts the most hatred.

What books did she steal ideas from, most of the complaints I hear have to do with her ideas being too original (read: shiney vampires)? Honestly curious, but beyond that, I also dont understand this argument about any book. "oh, I won't read Wheel Of Time because trollocks are obviously orcs." Why is this an issue, of course writers are going to use ideas from good books, they liked those books and ideas just as much as you did. As long as the plot isn't a direct rip-off to the point of predictability, I don't mind.