I never thought I'd do this...

[Queen Michael]

It made perfect sense and not once was i using my grammar and spelling to prove a point.
Also i made a single error.

2nd WTF, how does my second sentence say the same thing the first did they are clearly different, the first is telling the person why he is whining over such a trivial matter and the 2nd is saying how other authors do this and are not held up on it.

Also just becuase you are in its target audience doesn't mean you will like it or have to like it.

Forgive me, I meant you said the same thing twice within your second sentence. That is saying "no one would care or give a fuck" is just unnecessary repetition in an attempt to make it seem like you are saying more than you are, and looks rather foolish.

Kind of like my problem with Meyer, really. Adding to the word count without telling us more.

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

In before "Lose My Virginity"

Also, find twoo love.

I for one am starting to believe that doesn't exist. Damn you Hollywood, and society for lying to me all these years.

I can't remember who said it, but a wise person once said "Isn't it interesting how people always seem to find their True Love within x miles of their home?"

And at a time in their lives that is convenient to them.

I never thought I would actually make myself perform (music) in public, but I did. Hooray.

 

[Daedalus1942]

I'm actually going to read Twilight, admittedly just to be able to critize it but still.
Edit: It seems that me doing this annoyed some people. Look: I'm free to read whatever I want for whatever reason I want, including to make fun of how bad I think it is, as long as it doesn't break any laws (or forum rules). It's not my fault if you don't understand or don't respect that.

Oh, and I stopped being Christian some time ago, since to me it didn't make sense.

What have you done lately that you thought you'd never do in a million years?

I drove after having a bit of alcohol. I'm always careful not to do that.

 

[SultanP]

I'm actually going to read Twilight, admittedly just to be able to critize it but still.

You've just essentially told us all, "No-one else likes Twilight so I'm gonna follow the in-crowd and be a sheep".

I don't like Twilight either outside of the first book, but at least I have the guts to say I like the first book, in all honesty they're good, its the movies that are crap. You haven't read Twilight so your basing your opinions on baseless conjecture. Your just trying to be another little sheep following the popular belief of the "Cool Kids".

Do yourself a favour, get a life and get opinion of your own. Just because you don't have one yet doesn't give you the right to be peer pressure's *****.

Even if he is just a victim of peer pressure, which is a weird thing to assume, he does have every right to be. I don't think there is a law against submitting to it. You're just being a dick.

Also what this guy said:

Holy crap man, ease up. He just said he's going to read the book so he can have a basis to criticize it. Most of the popular hate towards Twlight has to do with the movies and the culture that's surrounded them, less so for the books.

Edit: Also, on topic: Good on you. I generally keep out of the who Twilight discussion as I know nothing of it. I'll agree to the vampires looking wimpy if anyone asks me, but other than that, I really don't know.

 

[squeekenator]

unnecessary words which were included for no reason.

Lol. That is all.

On topic, I never thought I would have believed it's not butter.

 

[AcacianLeaves]

On the topic of the thread, I never thought I would date someone I met on the internet. But I ended up marrying her, so I guess that worked out for me

 

[Carbonic Penguin]

"It doesn't rain much there, does it?"
"Three of four times a year."
"Wow, what must that have been like?" he wondered.
"Sunny," I told him.
The parts I've italicized (is that a real word?) are completely unnecessary. Removing them would have improved the text flow. So it's not just once.
Furthermore, you claim that if any other writer did this nobody would care. Actually, they would care very much. This is one of the most common complaints in writing; unnecessary words which were included for no reason.

Actually, when writing, you are supposed to say who is talking all the time, so the times Meyer didn't say who was talking is the bad part. Read any book, and at the end of every line of dialogue is a said. An example, I'm going to pull out aa random book, and a random page: Chronicles of Narnia :
"Trumpkin.' said the Dwarf. 'Bringing the High King of Narnia out of the far past.'
The badgers nosed at the boys' hands. "At last," they said. "At last."
"Give us a light, friends," said Trumpkin
Further on, they all have 'saids' next to them. Are they breaking the flow of writing? When I wrote like that, my English teacher said that EVERY line of dialogue must be like that. Want another example? This time The Saga of Darren Shan (about vampires, how convenient.)
"You couldn't keep up." I protested. "We move too fast."
"Through dark tunnels, with the threat of the vampaneze ever present?" She smiled. "I doubt it."
"OK", I agreed, "you could probably match us for pace, but not endurance. We go all day, hour after hour, without pause. You'd tire and fall behind."
"Steve keeps up'" she noted
"Steve's trained himself to track them. Besides," I added, "Steve doesn't have t report to school every day."
Both are great books, and the 'flow breaking' bits telling you who's talking is necessary for today's literature.

 

[Keepitclean]

OP We care not

 

[Cooper452]

I also read the twilight books just so i could critize them from a knowledable point of veiw but then found they're alright. Not exactly a challenging piece of literature but somewhere inside me the 13 year old goth likes them DONT WATCH THE FILMS. my lord that was painful.

i never thought i'd read the second twilight book...

 

[AcacianLeaves]

wordy wordy talky talky

It's the sign of a bad writer, or at least someone who hasn't read as much as they should, to not know to include who is talking in every line of dialogue. It's the first thing you learn about dialogue in any writing class. The phrase "he said" is automatic for readers. It's almost invisible, but it helps make sense of the dialogue so you can follow the conversation logically. Not including it, or replacing said with more colorful adjectives, is a definite sign of bad writing.

Now I never read the book, and I never plan to. My wife read them and said that they're about as good as any other trashy romance novel, and they'll do well because they're aimed at teenage girls. She was right.

On a different note, isn't Edward like 200 years old? What the hell is he doing dating a 17 year old? Why is this not creepy?

 

[Daedalus1942]

wordy wordy talky talky

It's the sign of a bad writer, or at least someone who hasn't read as much as they should, to not know to include who is talking in every line of dialogue. It's the first thing you learn about dialogue in any writing class. The phrase "he said" is automatic for readers. It's almost invisible, but it helps make sense of the dialogue so you can follow the conversation logically. Not including it, or replacing said with more colorful adjectives, is a definite sign of bad writing.

Now I never read the book, and I never plan to. My wife read them and said that they're about as good as any other trashy romance novel, and they'll do well because they're aimed at teenage girls. She was right.

On a different note, isn't Edward like 200 years old? What the hell is he doing dating a 17 year old? Why is this not creepy?

Rop Pattison already looks like a paedophile, I have to say.

 

[Carbonic Penguin]

Not including it, or replacing said with more colorful adjectives, is a definite sign of bad writing.

Yes, I agreed that not including it is a sign of bad writing, but you could at least replace 'said' with things like whispered or yelled. Sometimes I find it hard to get into a read conversation without telling me if they're yelling, whispering, saying it sarcastically or not, etc. And anyway, I was actually debating at how you said that they were flow breaking. Perhaps I misunderstood you, or perhaps you changed your tact...

EDIT: Oh wait, I thought you were queen michael, didn't loook at who wrote it...

 

[katsa5]

I never read the books, but I watched the movie. *shrug* Time to know where everyone's coming from. And I think I laughed a lot more than I should have. Apparantly I was watching a comedy and didn't know it.
*reads* >< What does being a Christian have to do with it?! Some people would grab any unnecessary opportunity to state an opinion.
Anyway, have fun with those books, and may you laugh as much as I did. And don't listen to the fan's 'Siren's song' of 'join us. . . .'

 

[Thisbedutch]

On the topic of Twilight. Fans: Face it, your favoured series is mediocre at its best. It fills its niche nicely, but it isn't anything worth conserving for future generations.

This. The books are no better or worse than pretty much any other teen romance book, technically speaking. Sadly the book has some unfortunate implications, namely that stalkerish, emotionally abusive arseholes make good boyfriends. I'm not a full-on Twilight hater, but damn those books bring out the Feminist rage in me.

 

[Ryuk2]

I never thought i would hate on Twilight, really. When i looked at the trailer, i thought that it's going to be amazing.
I thought i would never leave my girlfriend and love her forever... oh, what a foolish thought and good addition to the hate list.

 

[Queen Michael]

unnecessary words which were included for no reason.

Lol. That is all.

On topic, I never thought I would have believed it's not butter.

Heh, I guess I made a mistake. Though in my defense, people often do unnecessary things for a reason, like dress in warmer clothes than they need for the reason that they are misinformed (or overly cautious) about the weather. But yeah, that was a pretty dumb pleonasm I wrote.

On a different note, isn't Edward like 200 years old? What the hell is he doing dating a 17 year old? Why is this not creepy?

Well, he's in high school (or college or whatever) even though he could earn money doing some night job. The only reason I can think of for him to go there in the first place is for the creepy ogling of girls.

Carbonic Penguin: Maybe your English teacher told you "she said" is compulsory, but Hemingway didn't find it necessary, and he's a Nobel-winning writer, so I don't think it's that necessary. I know, my reasoning isn't entirely logical, but still, I don't know any writer, Meyer included, who always has lines accompanied by "she said", "he wondered" or other stuff like that.

 

[AcacianLeaves]

Carbonic Penguin: Maybe your English teacher told you "she said" is compulsory, but Hemingway didn't find it necessary, and he's a Nobel-winning writer, so I don't think it's that necessary. I know, my reasoning isn't entirely logical, but still, I don't know any writer, Meyer included, who always has lines accompanied by "she said", "he wondered" or other stuff like that.

That's...not really true. Maybe you just don't notice them? Hills Like White Elephants is largely regarded to be one of the best pieces of written dialogue in American literature, and its certainly regarded as one of Hemmingway's best.

http://www.moonstar.com/~acpjr/Blackboard/Common/Stories/WhiteElephants.html

Plenty of dialogue identifiers there. Not in every line, mind you, but in most.

 

[aarontg]

Hey I can respect that, but I don't think Iv'e ever really done anything big that Id'e never do.

 

[Simalacrum]

well, I got laid, didn't think I'd do that in a million years.

 

[Tartarga]

I started doing well in math class. I am now passing it for the first time in like 2 years.