Waiting until it comes out on DVD is fine. It was more with the people who download a film illegally.Credossuck said:
"I paid for this?": The decline in movie making
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I do. I went and paid to see genuinely good movies like A Prophet, Slumdog Millionaire, and The Hurt Locker while strictly avoiding movies like Revenge of the Fallen.bigolbear said:
If I hear a movie is good I gladly add it to my DVD/Blu-ray collection. For example, my most recent addition is Braveheart.
No, my point is akin to cursing music as a whole based on them constantly beating us over the head with their rising money makers such as the Jonas Brother and wave upon wave of of bad rap artists and and rock groups (not to say there have been some recent gems though).
But... but I love more action, and battles, and explosions...
Sorry, but for me I prefer shit blowing up than paying attention to every little detail. (though Transformers did suck) This doesn't mean I hate stories in movies though. Its just I watch action movies because I get to see awesome stuff I regularly don't see.
And don't blame me for all this, I've never been to movie theater in years.
Sorry, but for me I prefer shit blowing up than paying attention to every little detail. (though Transformers did suck) This doesn't mean I hate stories in movies though. Its just I watch action movies because I get to see awesome stuff I regularly don't see.
And don't blame me for all this, I've never been to movie theater in years.
Bad script, unoriginal plot, mediocre acting (other than Sigourney Weaver) and bloated with special effects so much so as to force out anything truly GOOD about the film.Mr.Pandah said:
No it wasn't.Mr.Pandah said:
Oh, also, I have nothing to add to this conversation that the original poster has not already said. Might be able to say it better myself, but I won't, because it's already been said well enough.
Like I tried to point out with my comparison of Saving Private Ryan and Attack of the Clones. There is a difference between meaningful, and meaningless action.Armored Prayer said:
Meaningful action is where you actually care if someone or a group of people make it out alive and are emotionally affected when someone gets hurt or dies. This has less to do with the action itself and more about the people involved. When you root for a group of people to prevail and they do you feel happy, but if not, you tend to feel a little sad.
And then there is meaningless action. Which is shoving as many bullets, lasers, explosions and special effects into a fight scene. This is more about the spectacle of the situation and less about the plot or the people involved.
I guess I prefer the meaningless action then. Though I must admit meaningful action is much better and I had times were I really got into it. But in the end meaningless action always gets me excited.Timotei said:
I haven't seen 'Saving Private Ryan' other than the battle in the beginning and while I thought it was amazing, I always thought the battle at the end of 'Attack of the Clones' was more... exciting.
But thats just me.
It's a sad truth that good storytelling and proper action are becoming more separated. But there are some movies that manage to be both moving AND full of explodey goodness.
But at least movies like Transformers 2 can keep a semi-straight face. The story may be crap but at least it's sufficient to string together a series of explosion orgies.
Then there are the movies that are truly rotten shit, like, say, Eragon the movie (don't get me started), or Doomsday 2012 (not to be confused with Doomsday or 2012)(Somehow managed to be an hour and a half without ANYTHING at all happening and telling NO story whatsoever, with all the characters being less interesting than dried cement)
And many more....
But at least movies like Transformers 2 can keep a semi-straight face. The story may be crap but at least it's sufficient to string together a series of explosion orgies.
Then there are the movies that are truly rotten shit, like, say, Eragon the movie (don't get me started), or Doomsday 2012 (not to be confused with Doomsday or 2012)(Somehow managed to be an hour and a half without ANYTHING at all happening and telling NO story whatsoever, with all the characters being less interesting than dried cement)
And many more....
Bad script? I don't think so. Unoriginal plot? Sure, but what isn't nowadays? I don't agree with any of your points anyway. Bloated with special effects? What else were they supposed to do? Actually dress people up in huge blue costumes? Please, the movie was a visual treat and it actually managed to hold my interest for the entirety of the film...not a lot of movies can do that anymore. It presented the "unoriginal plot" in a new and interesting way.KimberlyGoreHound said:
Also wasn't aware you could invalidate my opinion with your own. 300 was great. Nothing you tell me will ever change that. If I want to see a bunch of people get killed in awesome ways, I know what movie I want to watch.
You also glossed over the point that I made about how this is all opinion! Good job!BobDobolina said:
I liked a movie, call the insane asylum, this guy doesn't have the same tastes in movies as me! OH NO!
Get over yourself, you're just flame baiting the shit out of my post now.
I agree with you 110% but please don't blame me.
I go to the artsy theater in my town and watch movies with glorious subtitles. I believe in the power of teh ticket, and supporting the arts over shit. And when asked about seeing transformers 2 I told my friends I had better things to do like shoving my dick in a power outlet. Good day sir!
[sub] you always make really good threads[/sub]
I go to the artsy theater in my town and watch movies with glorious subtitles. I believe in the power of teh ticket, and supporting the arts over shit. And when asked about seeing transformers 2 I told my friends I had better things to do like shoving my dick in a power outlet. Good day sir!
[sub] you always make really good threads[/sub]
I only do if you fit the demographic...Hollock said:
...which it appears you do not.
FFFFUUUU! That's my line.
[sub][sub][sub]I aim to deliver.[/sub][/sub][/sub]
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Calm the fuck down. Seriously. We don't need a pilot light here.BobDobolina said:
Pretty much nothing but an overlong rant about your film tastes. It might be interesting the first couple times...but come on. We've all heard this before, with music or video games, or sports. "Everything was better back then! (Insert athlete/film/game/band). If they were here today they would dominate everything!" Yeah sure, we hear about all those old great films, but that's only because people said they're great. In 40-50 years from now, someone will be reviewing movies and saying, "This generation is crap...blah blah blah. Look at District 9. Look at The Hurt Locker. That's when people really cared." But they're going to not mention Twilight, or Transformers, or the Saw films. Because those movies sucked and we forget bad things because good things happen too.
Do you ever hear anything about Waterworld? No, because it sucked and you know what else we got that year? Toy Story and Apollo 13 which have completely outshadowed it. So you can't just gloss over the film industries history. I guarantee that if you look at every single film ever made, most of it is shit or just forgettable. Seriously, compare the different movies that were released when Citizen Kane came out, or when Saving Private Ryan came out. If you can't think of more than 5 (if any at all) I'll tell you why right now. Because they sucked and no one liked them enough to remember them.
Do you ever hear anything about Waterworld? No, because it sucked and you know what else we got that year? Toy Story and Apollo 13 which have completely outshadowed it. So you can't just gloss over the film industries history. I guarantee that if you look at every single film ever made, most of it is shit or just forgettable. Seriously, compare the different movies that were released when Citizen Kane came out, or when Saving Private Ryan came out. If you can't think of more than 5 (if any at all) I'll tell you why right now. Because they sucked and no one liked them enough to remember them.
I'll name 6 which are in my DVD collectionLionsfan said:
1). The Black Cat starring Basil Rathbone
2). Sergeant York starring Gary Cooper
3). Dumbo
4). The Maltese Falcon starring Humphrey Bogart
5). How Green Was My Valley starring Walter Pidgeon
6). Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde starring Spencer Tracy
Around the time of Saving Private Ryan:
1). The Truman Show starring Jim Carrey
2). A Bug's Life
3). Mulan
4). Enemy of the State starring Will Smith
5). American History X starring Edward Furlong
6). You've Got Mail starring Tom Hanks
7). Blade starring Wesley Snipes
These are all in my collection.
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But wait! I just found A Yank In The RAF starring Tyrone Power
Well, everyone is entitled to their preferences in film as well as every other medium in the entertainment industry. You can go on and on saying that the industry is getting ruined by the Twitards of today, but does that mean the cinema from 40-50 years ago was a "holy grail" that only created timeless classics? Far from it. I'm sure if you lived back then you'd say the exact same thing you're saying now. You drive home an excellent point, but it has its flaws, simply because your views would be the same at any point in time of the film industry. I'm sure 30 years ago people were saying the same thing as you.