I'm not against it(installed Origin due to the Humble Bundle, though I really dislike it), but I prefer having all my digital games gathered on one place.
"I refuse to install multiple game clients!"
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Many people refuse to install Origin because EA. I guess many just want a unified service instead of a fragmented market. The only problem is that the market as we see it breeds some nice competition. The different eTailers could all sell their wares underneath a single independent service, the only problem is that none of them will want to give up control of their stuff to an independent unifying platform. On a related example for this, just look at EA seceding from Steam and creating Origin.TelHybrid said:
I have Origin and Steam on my machine, never knew GMG had a client of their own.
Yeah, let's not only waste time installing the damn things but also look through several pages of options for that tiny line that says "autostart". And then update. And then manually add options to allow/disallow each program from the firewall.SSJBlastoise said:
Or just not install any unnecessary programs in the first place.
Well, the cleaner my PC is, the better the games run. Simple as that.
Nowadays, it takes a lot of crap to make the PC dirty, but why push it? I've got over 500 games on Steam, what could I possibly be missing from the other clients that I'd NEED to install them for? I've got 30 others I can play for that one game you'd might remind me I'm interested in.
Nowadays, it takes a lot of crap to make the PC dirty, but why push it? I've got over 500 games on Steam, what could I possibly be missing from the other clients that I'd NEED to install them for? I've got 30 others I can play for that one game you'd might remind me I'm interested in.
Oh no! I have to do 5 clicks for steam and 3 clicks for origin to get rid of autostart and it takes like 5 seconds to do. Seriously, if this is some hard task to you I would hate to see what happens when a game doesn't run perfectly on your system and you have to look for a fix online.5ilver said:
I can understand if you don't get Origin or other clients because you just don't like the games on their but stuff like this is just petty.
Because if we accept every publisher having its own service we'll end up with our games being divided into several libraries which will take one of the biggest advantages of digital distribution away - comfort of use.
I only use Steam and Origin. Only a few of my games are on Origin (all of which but 2 I got through Steam/retail/bundle).
Should there be more than one? Yes. Because we need competition. Should every publisher make one? No. Because it would make it very uncomfortable for the users.
A service that I refuse to use, for example, is Beamdog. Why? Because unlike Steam and Origin, it doesn't have any games that I got through other means that I can register and play over there (That's how they got me to use Steam and Origin), and it has a very small library of games.
I only use Steam and Origin. Only a few of my games are on Origin (all of which but 2 I got through Steam/retail/bundle).
Should there be more than one? Yes. Because we need competition. Should every publisher make one? No. Because it would make it very uncomfortable for the users.
A service that I refuse to use, for example, is Beamdog. Why? Because unlike Steam and Origin, it doesn't have any games that I got through other means that I can register and play over there (That's how they got me to use Steam and Origin), and it has a very small library of games.
How did that happen?MinionJoe said:
Some people are tech-illiterate and don't know how to disable the clients' autostart features. Some people don't like the idea of the divided game library, or find it inconvenient to have to remember which game is where. Some people still believe that Origin would spy on their porn collections.
Personally, I have Steam, Origin, Desura, GOG.com, and occasionally the kind of shitty Games for Windows Live.
Oh, and the Beamdog client for Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition.
The only client I can think of that I refuse to use is Uplay. I also basically boycott Ubisoft games, because of the ludicrous DRM limitations they tend to enforce on their PC games.
Personally, I have Steam, Origin, Desura, GOG.com, and occasionally the kind of shitty Games for Windows Live.
Oh, and the Beamdog client for Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition.
The only client I can think of that I refuse to use is Uplay. I also basically boycott Ubisoft games, because of the ludicrous DRM limitations they tend to enforce on their PC games.
I don't really even want one client on my computer. But multiples, when you consider some are damn clunky and others are resource hogs, is it really all that shocking?
not to mention, PC gaming is supposed to be about choice.
not to mention, PC gaming is supposed to be about choice.
Except the problem is you're damned both ways. If you leave them on autostart they will hassle you randomly, if you don't they will hassle you whenever you want to play a game on them. Deciding I want to play Far Cry 3 and being prompted to download 9 patches in a row for Uplay before I can download 6 patches for Far Cry 3 (even assuming I can stop it downloading patches for Driver and From Dust) is equally a pain.SSJBlastoise said:
In the end it's better to have as few of these leeches installed on your system as possible.
The problem is that that's a vanishingly small group of people. I use Steam because it's a reliable, speedy and polished service. For anything else I use GOG, which doesn't really have a platform. The reason I use these is that the less software I have start with my PC the better and that Origin is a mess. Origin is disgusting compared to Steam and GFWL is like splitting your tongue with a razorblade, even trying to get it to sign you in is a battle.TelHybrid said:
EDIT: Not to mention that as far as I'm concerned every software update should be handled by the same service, having multiple programs pulling updates willy nilly is a dumb way to run an OS.
I suffer through steam simply because of the sales, Origin is a very nice service to use, and I'm more than happy to try any others if they show up.
I agree with you, OP. The brand loyalty people can hold over a games provider is a little silly. It's like saying that you'll never shop at GAME, only GameStation.
The difference, of course, is the divided game library. I agree with the fact that this is an inconvenience, if you launch titles from the platform itself. However, if you just have a folder on your computer with the .exe files to launch the games, the platform required to launch them loads itself up automatically. This pretty much removes that problem.
I agree with you, OP. The brand loyalty people can hold over a games provider is a little silly. It's like saying that you'll never shop at GAME, only GameStation.
The difference, of course, is the divided game library. I agree with the fact that this is an inconvenience, if you launch titles from the platform itself. However, if you just have a folder on your computer with the .exe files to launch the games, the platform required to launch them loads itself up automatically. This pretty much removes that problem.
Convenience thats all. I like keeping all my digital games in one place so I can find them quickly and easily. I'm not saying it would be impossible for another digital distributor to get my business, but they would have make a damn sweet offer, that I simply couldn't refuse.
I buy most of my games in retail store, therefore I should not be forced to install some whiny digital distribution platform along with them. I barely tolerate Steam, since it came with some games I bought in 2008 as a form of DRM. I use it only to play those and some other games with Steamworks, I almost never buy stuff with it.
I'm using one client already (albeit grudgingly), there is no reason to install any more. If you think otherwise, I'm not buying your game. It's that simple.
I'm using one client already (albeit grudgingly), there is no reason to install any more. If you think otherwise, I'm not buying your game. It's that simple.
I've got steam and UPLAY. The clients are just... irritating. If I could do without clients, I would (for the various reasons of bloat, rootkit danger, irritating updates, too many passwords (and as the recent security breach of UPLAY demonstrates, 1 password+username for everything is risky)). I just want to f'n play. I dont care about social networks, multiplayer, updates (beyond patches, thanks a lot "ship now-patch later" philosophy). The only thing that has made me grudgingly accept steam is 1) Steam sales 2) They actually tell me when they change the EULA. All other companies simply include a "Subject to change without warning" line in their EULAs.
As an example of multiple-client bloat: Having to open a client with another client. Since I bought AC3 with steam, UPLAY will not let me play AC3 unless steam is ALSO open. Joy. And you know what AC3 loves to do? CRASH ALL THE PROGRAMS. So it takes forever to get back.
I guess to some people it might seem like a minor inconvenience, but I just want to play. Which is why I love GOG, since they dont force you to use their client.
I'll never use origin though. It already has a nasty reputation (rootkits, buggy software, etc) I don't know if we've stopped hearing about because the problem's been solved or because there's other news in the world.
As an example of multiple-client bloat: Having to open a client with another client. Since I bought AC3 with steam, UPLAY will not let me play AC3 unless steam is ALSO open. Joy. And you know what AC3 loves to do? CRASH ALL THE PROGRAMS. So it takes forever to get back.
I guess to some people it might seem like a minor inconvenience, but I just want to play. Which is why I love GOG, since they dont force you to use their client.
I'll never use origin though. It already has a nasty reputation (rootkits, buggy software, etc) I don't know if we've stopped hearing about because the problem's been solved or because there's other news in the world.