I take 40k seriously I and I find it fun as Hell

[Soviet Heavy]

It's not the "dark" aspect that turns me off, it's the lack of what I can only call "aesthetic restraint" and the subsequent improbability.

WH40K doesn't actually strike me as dark. Things that try too hard to be grim usually aren't. WH40K just reminds me of heavy metal album covers. Y'know, all skulls and monsters and muscly dudes with axes and whatnot, like it's forgotten that it's just a recording of some hairy guys yelling into a microphone and playing electric guitar. Similarly, WH40K looks like what you'd get if Lego started trying to be grim.

Speaking of which.....

Spoiler

Even in Death I still hurt your feet.

 

[GloatingSwine]

...and homoerotic. I'm fairly certain it's unintentional, but bloody hell, the Horus Heresy novels spend a lot of time dwelling on how "beautiful" all those big muscular primarchs are.

Yeah, you heard me. Space Marines are gay.

Only for the Emprah.

 

[GloatingSwine]

For example if an Orc find an pencil and want to create a gun with it..........HE WILL DO IT BECAUSE HE BELIEVED SO!!!!!!

There are limits, the Ork has to believe absolutely that the "gun" will fire before it will actually do so, and that means that it at the very least has to go dakka and fling hot brass everywhere when used. Of course, the louder the noise when it fires the more powerful it will be.


On the other hand, if you give an Ork a red pencil, he will be able to write faster with it.

 

[SweetShark]

For example if an Orc find an pencil and want to create a gun with it..........HE WILL DO IT BECAUSE HE BELIEVED SO!!!!!!

There are limits, the Ork has to believe absolutely that the "gun" will fire before it will actually do so, and that means that it at the very least has to go dakka and fling hot brass everywhere when used. Of course, the louder the noise when it fires the more powerful it will be.


On the other hand, if you give an Ork a red pencil, he will be able to write faster with it.

So if an Ork stick a giant dildo to an Ultramarine's naked ass, and make a loud sound [cause of the pain], the orK could used him as a weapon?

Spoiler

joking of course........but can he?

 

[CAPTCHA]

...and homoerotic. I'm fairly certain it's unintentional, but bloody hell, the Horus Heresy novels spend a lot of time dwelling on how "beautiful" all those big muscular primarchs are.

Yes they are the Fulgrim novel especially, that novel was a giant homoerotic minibus roaming the stars looking for S&M clubs, a few fights and a chance to be on the front cover of a porn mag.

Damn funny though.

Yeah one of my favorite scenes includes fulgrim dolled up like a geshia girl while the eldar he's meeting exchange coy smiles with one another. A cute little nod to the reader.

 

[Saviordd1]

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I don't think you even understood what you posted, jesus you took the conversation and went at warp ten to the left of it.

There's nothing to misunderstand, you saw something you liked being attacked and you jumped on the attacker like a loyal hound dog. Congrats.

You then attempt to make it seem like you know better by making half baked points and then accusing the other person of "not getting it" (As evidenced by your posts with me and the reply to another guy in the same post)

 

[Easton Dark]

I think everyone would take 40k a little more seriously if the Angry Marines were present in the story more often.

Spoiler

 

[broutefoin]

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I don't think you even understood what you posted, jesus you took the conversation and went at warp ten to the left of it.

There's nothing to misunderstand, you saw something you liked being attacked and you jumped on the attacker like a loyal hound dog. Congrats.

You then attempt to make it seem like you know better by making half baked points and then accusing the other person of "not getting it" (As evidenced by your posts with me and the reply to another guy in the same post)

What I understood from his post is just a general annoyance at your insistence (throughout multiple threads now) to refer to Warhammer 40k as a "story" instead of a "setting", 40k isn't a story, its a setting in which uncounted stories take place. you can say that you don't like the setting, and therefor you have no interest in the stories that emerge from it, but STOP CALLING IT A "STORY".

 

[Saviordd1]

-snip-

I don't think you even understood what you posted, jesus you took the conversation and went at warp ten to the left of it.

There's nothing to misunderstand, you saw something you liked being attacked and you jumped on the attacker like a loyal hound dog. Congrats.

You then attempt to make it seem like you know better by making half baked points and then accusing the other person of "not getting it" (As evidenced by your posts with me and the reply to another guy in the same post)

What I understood from his post is just a general annoyance at your insistence (throughout multiple threads now) to refer to Warhammer 40k as a "story" instead of a "setting", 40k isn't a story, its a setting in which uncounted stories take place. you can say that you don't like the setting, and therefor you have no interest in the stories that emerge from it, but STOP CALLING IT A "STORY".

Well that's nitpicky to an extreme.

 

[broutefoin]

-snip-

I don't think you even understood what you posted, jesus you took the conversation and went at warp ten to the left of it.

There's nothing to misunderstand, you saw something you liked being attacked and you jumped on the attacker like a loyal hound dog. Congrats.

You then attempt to make it seem like you know better by making half baked points and then accusing the other person of "not getting it" (As evidenced by your posts with me and the reply to another guy in the same post)

What I understood from his post is just a general annoyance at your insistence (throughout multiple threads now) to refer to Warhammer 40k as a "story" instead of a "setting", 40k isn't a story, its a setting in which uncounted stories take place. you can say that you don't like the setting, and therefor you have no interest in the stories that emerge from it, but STOP CALLING IT A "STORY".

Well that's nitpicky to an extreme.

Not really, words have meaning for a reason, you keep using the wrong word. This been pointed out to you several times (in your own thread about 40k). There is a BIG difference between a story and a setting.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

I used to drop insane amounts of money on 40k, then later Warmachine which was cheaper and I loved the models a hell of a lot more. But I did play a lot of 40k for a good while. In the end though, the over-the-top lore just didn't interest me at all. Sure, a galaxy based around war, bleak future and all just didn't immerse me much. Plus the books were awful droning wastes of my time (much like attempting to read the Wheel of Time series but for different reasons).
I had fun playing, my wallet however didn't and I was eventually forced for financial reasons to quit and sell off the massive amounts of figures I had. All painted up nice and pretty too. I never recouped the expenses completely but I did pay off a lot of bills.

 

[Saviordd1]

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I don't think you even understood what you posted, jesus you took the conversation and went at warp ten to the left of it.

There's nothing to misunderstand, you saw something you liked being attacked and you jumped on the attacker like a loyal hound dog. Congrats.

You then attempt to make it seem like you know better by making half baked points and then accusing the other person of "not getting it" (As evidenced by your posts with me and the reply to another guy in the same post)

I would not mind if you bashed War40k you knew what you were talking about.

You keep talking about War40k's "story" when it's a setting. You have not read a single novel despite given several recommendations. You have a very loose grasp on the lore.

Then YOU came on and made a thread insinuating that people who like War40k are retarded manchildren. Moreover, YOU took on a position of superiority DEMANDING that fans explain themselves to you, following up with a declaration that you will never "take it seriously". It's a fantasy setting. What do you want from it?

Stop with the story shit, yes, I used the wrong word. You know what I meant though dear god.

I didn't demand, I asked.
You could have very easily walked away from the thread, I wouldn't have sent the storm troopers after you.

And I want it to stop taking itself seriously
Since the thread I actually have found a certain entertainment in the Orks and some of the ridiculousness.
But it starts to lose my attention when it takes itself to be a supah serious sci fi setting.

 

[Da Orky Man]

I like 40k myself but it hard to take a universe seriously when their machines are repaired though the power of prayer.

You do realise its not literal prayer, but to them, knowledge and technology is the religion right? They just say a prayer as they're repairing. Preparing a machine for battle is actual diagnostics and loading, but it has become a ritual. Its actually really quite an interesting take on religion.

yeah i realize some of the prayers/rituals are like that the lasgun litanies for example but then they have prayer censors and such for bigger operations that have little to do with actually fixing the tech.

Toll the Great Bell Once!
Pull the Lever forward to engage the
Piston and Pump...
Toll the Great Bell Twice!
With push of Button fire the Engine
And spark Turbine into life...
Toll the Great Bell Thrice!
Sing Praise to the
God of All Machines

Basically, instructions on how to restart a stalled engine.
Originally, the extra praying stuff was to fool everyone else into thinking only the Adeptus Mechanicus could deal with technology, to get a monopoly. Then they kind of forgot themselves, and so firmly believe that the praying is fully necessarily. It's just an example of how humans will venerate basically anything as a spirit or such, under the right circumstances.